Russia Invades Ukraine X

[TexasBama]

that's a shame

Car bomb kills daughter of 'spiritual guide' to Putin's Ukraine invasion - Russian media | CNN

Russian authorities said Sunday they had opened a murder investigation after the daughter of influential, ultra-nationalist philosopher Alexander Dugin was killed by a car bomb on the outskirts of Moscow.

www.cnn.com

But of course.

Darya Dugina: Ukraine killed Putin ally's daughter, Russia says

Vladimir Putin calls the 29-year-old's death a "vile, cruel crime" but Ukraine denies any involvement.

www.bbc.com

 

[TIDE-HSV]

But of course.

Darya Dugina: Ukraine killed Putin ally's daughter, Russia says

Vladimir Putin calls the 29-year-old's death a "vile, cruel crime" but Ukraine denies any involvement.

www.bbc.com

Too painful to admit that it might be a home-grown Russian plot...

 

[Tidewater]

Too painful to admit that it might be a home-grown Russian plot...

A better book, same story.
David Satter, The Less You Know, the Better you Sleep.
This author, being an American, was not killed, but he was banned from going back to Russia.
Circumstantial evidence indicates that the FSB blew up Russian apartment buildings in 2000, to help Putin win an election, so killing Dugin's daughter (or trying to kill Dugin and ending up killing his daughter by mistake) is not inconceivable.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Doubt anyone in Russia ever thought back in February that we'd be talking about strikes deep into Crimea in August.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561737436564275201

Reports of windows being blown out by huge blasts in Sevastopol, in Ukraine's Russian-occupied Crimea. Explosions "heard all over the city" according to reports, and in town of Inkerman about 10 km to the east.

 

[Go Bama]

reports say she was driving her dads car...........ooops

Did anyone else think of Apollonia, Michael's first wife, from the Godfather?

 

[Tidewater]

Doubt anyone in Russia ever thought back in February that we'd be talking about strikes deep into Crimea in August.

As I have said in regard to other circumstances, starting a war unleashes dynamics its authors do not know and never intended.
The guys who fired on Fort Sumter did not intend to abolish slavery and kill an independent South, but that was what happened in the war they unleashed. The Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor did not intend for the Japanese Empire to be obliterated, but that happened. The Austro-Hungarians who declared war on Serbia (and the Russian Tasr who responded) did not intend the demise of the Austro-Hungarian (or Russian) Empire, but that was what happened.

“This is a cardinal principle, that should govern all statesmen – never, without the strongest necessity, to disturb that which is a rest.”[1] John Randolph of Roanoke

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[1] Russell Kirk, John Randolph of Roanoke, pg. 192.

 

[UAH]

Doubt anyone in Russia ever thought back in February that we'd be talking about strikes deep into Crimea in August.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561737436564275201

As I have said in regard to other circumstances, starting a war unleashes dynamics its authors do not know and never intended.
The guys who fired on Fort Sumter did not intend to abolish slavery and kill an independent South, but that was what happened in the war they unleashed. The Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor did not intend for the Japanese Empire to be obliterated, but that happened. The Austro-Hungarians who declared war on Serbia (and the Russian Tasr who responded) did not intend the demise of the Austro-Hungarian (or Russian) Empire, but that was what happened.

“This is a cardinal principle, that should govern all statesmen – never, without the strongest necessity, to disturb that which is a rest.”[1] John Randolph of Roanoke


[1] Russell Kirk, John Randolph of Roanoke, pg. 192.

Very insightful comment. Now, if only the fate of the Tsar would come for Putin!

 

[Tidewater]

Very insightful comment. Now, if only the fate of the Tsar would come for Putin!

It might yet, before all this is over. As I have said before Russian national morale is very tough, but brittle. When it snaps it, it crumbles fast and catastrophically.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

The rather rapid sherlocking job by the FSB makes it all the more likely to be false flag...

 

[Tidewater]

The rather rapid sherlocking job by the FSB makes it all the more likely to be false flag...

I'm afraid that is true. What a Ukrainian with a history with the Azov Regiment was doing in Moscow, I'll never understand.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I'm afraid that is true. What a Ukrainian with a history with the Azov Regiment was doing in Moscow, I'll never understand.

Also, why would Ukraine even want to do it? Putin is going to use it for an excuse for even more atrocities, maybe bomb Kyiv...

 

[Tidewater]

Also, why would Ukraine even want to do it? Putin is going to use it for an excuse for even more atrocities, maybe bomb Kyiv...

Yep. Cui bono?

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Yep. Cui bono?

That’s my question, but referring to the FSB / Putin.

I agree that the instantaneous apprehension of someone to charge with the murder is fishy.

So let’s suppose the FSB / Putin did do it. What does Putin gain?

 

[Tidewater]

That’s my question, but referring to the FSB / Putin.

I agree that the instantaneous apprehension of someone to charge with the murder is fishy.

So let’s suppose the FSB / Putin did do it. What does Putin gain?

Inside the Kremlin intrigues (if we were privy to them) would provide the answer.
Maybe Dugin had become inconvenient for the Kremlin for some reason.
Putin will be running for another term as president in a few years. Maybe Putin needs Dugin crazier than usual. Having your daughter killed in public is not going to make Dugin any saner.

Certainly, the Ukrainians are not going to benefit from the death of Dugin's daughter.

 

[Tidewater]

This kind of makes me smile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561120376863744002

"Drive in the tracks of the tank that went here before," they said. "Those tracks are obviously cleared."

Notice the road wheel blown off the tank and rolling away on the right of the screen.

 

[Tidewater]

Lest we forget, today is the anniversary of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact,

in which the USSR stabbed Poland in the back.

And here is a modern interpretation. (This is the "rated G" version).

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Inside the Kremlin intrigues (if we were privy to them) would provide the answer.
Maybe Dugin had become inconvenient for the Kremlin for some reason.
Putin will be running for another term as president in a few years. Maybe Putin needs Dugin crazier than usual. Having your daughter killed in public is not going to make Dugin any saner.

Certainly, the Ukrainians are not going to benefit from the death of Dugin's daughter.

If the FSB did plant the bomb, it raises an additional question and several follow-ons: Who was the intended target…..Dugin or his daughter?

If the daughter, why? If it’s to make Dugin crazier, that’s a risky play. Smart people who are crazy and/or have an axe to grind are highly unpredictable. If the target was in fact the daughter, Dugin might want revenge so badly that he no longer cares much for his personal safety. Alternatively, he could be scared for the safety of the rest of his family (assuming he has a family he cares about….I have no idea).

Regardless, smart, crazy, emotional and vengeful is a dangerous combination.

If the intended target was Dugin himself, Dugin now knows that, probably sooner rather than later, somebody is coming to finish the job. Which puts him in the position of having nothing left to lose….an equally dangerous mindset.

Speculating on motives and “what-ifs” surrounding this is fascinating.

 

[Tidewater]

If the FSB did plant the bomb, it raises an additional question and several follow-ons: Who was the intended target…..Dugin or his daughter?

If the daughter, why? If it’s to make Dugin crazier, that’s a risky play. Smart people who are crazy and/or have an axe to grind are highly unpredictable. If the target was in fact the daughter, Dugin might want revenge so badly that he no longer cares much for his personal safety. Alternatively, he could be scared for the safety of the rest of his family (assuming he has a family he cares about….I have no idea).

Regardless, smart, crazy, emotional and vengeful is a dangerous combination.

If the intended target was Dugin himself, Dugin now knows that, probably sooner rather than later, somebody is coming to finish the job. Which puts him in the position of having nothing left to lose….an equally dangerous mindset.

Speculating on motives and “what-ifs” surrounding this is fascinating.

Agreed on all points.
The backdrop of all this conjecture is that, apparently, the FSB blew up apartment buildings because it would help the Boss get elected.
In its craziest hour, if someone went to the craziest CIA operative and said, "Let's murder a few hundred Americans. It will help the presidents re-election chances," I'd wager his colleagues would call the insane asylum forthwith.
But in Russia, apparently, the FSB response was, "Okay."

 

[Bodhisattva]

I suspect many of Putin's "friends" would now like to send their loved ones as far away as possible.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Brzezinski seems to be convinced it's the FSB. Of course, he's speculating like the rest of us...