feels like we are already there to meFeels like we are one election cycle away from a theocracy.
As long as the students aren't coerced - they can participate or not - I don't see an issue. I think it should happen somewhere where the kids aren't forced to be there (such as after a ball game) rather than in a classroom.I want to take a leave of absence from work, sign up to be a substitute teacher and lead each class in a Satanic prayer. Let's test this thing and see how this goes
the problem is that it is often as voluntary as summer workouts for football players.As long as the students aren't coerced - they can participate or not - I don't see an issue.
I certainly don't see an issue with a coach praying after a ball game. Assuming it's voluntary as to whether or not players join in (it was when I played), no big deal.
That rabbit hole exists everywhere, though. Unless there's proof that coercion is happening, assuming it is assumes too much.the problem is that it is often as voluntary as summer workouts for football players.
sure, you can skip but you can also get passed on the depth chart.
One of my childhood schools said the "Lord's prayer" every day just after the Pledge of Allegiance. It didn't bother me at the time (I was seven or eight) but in retrospect, that was not a good practice (and likely illegal). No telling how many kids felt uncomfortable because of that - and it was led by the teacher in the classroom!One of my best childhood friends is Jewish. He had to tolerate prayer at the beginning of each school day, and then a 30 minute "chapel" from 2:30-3:00 every day for the first through eighth grades. He's a successful attorney in Nashville now. He has told me he moved to Nashville to be better able to pursue his religion.
I never realized as a child how hard the school prayer was for him.
We said the Pledge and the Lord's Prayer every single day.One of my childhood schools said the "Lord's prayer" every day just after the Pledge of Allegiance. It didn't bother me at the time (I was seven or eight) but in retrospect, that was not a good practice (and likely illegal). No telling how many kids felt uncomfortable because of that - and it was led by the teacher in the classroom!
My 8th grade home room teacher had students read the bible in front of class every day. Of course, this was around the time when the first song we learned in school was DixieWe said the Pledge and the Lord's Prayer every single day.
This. By the very nature of his position as a coach, it is coercive.the problem is that it is often as voluntary as summer workouts for football players.
sure, you can skip but you can also get passed on the depth chart.
i’m still amazed at the number of folks who continue to give duplicitous zealots the assumption that they are acting in good faithThis. By the very nature of his position as a coach, it is coercive.
Sotomayor's dissent is good. The gulf between what this guy was actually doing and how the court's conservatives characterized it is enormous. Sotomayor spelled it out.