BREAKING Sec additions–Texas, Oklahoma inquire about joining SEC per report

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Sure seems like this is picking up speed. I thought it was just chatter at first but its startg to look like it very way may happen. If the Sooners come in though how soon is it the Cowboys will follow and if that happens we would need one more to be even. This could get very interesting.
A lot of sources have said that TCU and Okie Lite are pursuing the PAC 12
 
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So...if this happens (as it appears to be) when do they start participating???

Obviously can't be this year with schedules already made. Didn't I see something about 2025? But that would seem way too long to wait.
It really depends on Fox and how they see it. I think the working theory is that ESPN would pay out the tv deals for LHN and work new deals with those who remain. But Fox has different TV deals altogether.
 

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Remember, Fox and ESPN have the same parent company. Changes the landscape greatly...
That’s not actually true. Fox sports is not owned by Disney. The government stepped in and stopped it. All Fox sports are owned by Sinclair… poor @DzynKingRTR and many other baseball fans know this all too well.

Disney only owns the movie and non sports and non National news side of Fox.

To make it easier… if you are watching a Fox network in which you get your local news then it’s Sinclair. Also any regional sports networks outside of team owned channels (like Yankees Yes network) its Sinclair.
 
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Past 16 things become far more cumbersome. I mean they are already talking pods of 4 teams, how does that work with 18 teams? 9 team divisions? It's just really clunky.
don’t stop at 18… If you go past 16, go to 20. Then you could have four pods five teams each. Play all the teams in your pod and then play teams from the other pods on some sort of rotating schedule
 

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I cannot see 2023 --- that's like a couple who have signed divorce papers living together for 2 more years. But, I've been wrong before...the demise of the NCAA is the kicker in all of this. I was expecting the top 16 CFB programs to form their own conference and dominate the tv market, etc. Wrong again....
My guess is it will happen next year mate. It's like giving a 2 week notice and I tell you to leave now. It won't take long. The money is too big and the ramifications too astronomical. Once it's official the B12 will need to adapt as quickly as possible and the SEC will need to absorb them as quickly as possible. Schedules and TV deals are a minor inconvenience in the big scheme of things. There's enough to cover everyone. If it happens nothing will stop this train from moving down the line.
 

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Thanks...you are correct...see Wikipedia for updated info.
Sinclair is the devil, asked for such a high price that all streaming services dropped them, even Dish Network dropped all the regional networks in 2019. Forces me to use my sister's Uverse login so I can watch the Braves in the Bally app. Supposedly they are launching a Bally direct to consumer streaming service before the 2022 MLB season starts. They are going to charge $23 a month though. No thank you, I'll continue to poach my sister's login.
 

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So our guess our home and home with UT will probably not happen as scheduled in '22 and '23...

Who would have ever thunk it???
Bama vs Texas is WAY, WAY down the priority line as it concerns the new conference. It's not a priority at all and probably no part of any conference expansion discussions.
 

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So our guess our home and home with UT will probably not happen as scheduled in '22 and '23...

Who would have ever thunk it???
Oh they could work that into the conference schedule. It just becomes a conference game. Each of us would have to pick up a non-con game or not... as the conference schedule will likely be expanded to at least 9 games.
 

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don’t stop at 18… If you go past 16, go to 20. Then you could have four pods five teams each. Play all the teams in your pod and then play teams from the other pods on some sort of rotating schedule
Or 24 even. Nothing is out of the question now. The demise of the NCAA due to NIL has set the table for this. I could see NC, NC State, Virginia Tech, Virginia, FSU easily enter the discussion. Clemson maybe too but they look like the outlier. Other than the last 5 +/- years they're not blue blood or have any history. Theyre just out of place although they have a better bat to swing now. It's not historically been much of a bat though.

If we're going to super conferences I'd rather see the SEC at 24. 4 divisions of 6 teams. It would make the SEC basically the college football world. Outside of Ohio State and California there's little left. The SEC would be the college football champion every year.
 
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A&M and Arkansas had a 6 game home and home series all locked up and then A&M became a member of the SEC. The game just changed to a conference game. Same thing would probably happen. They could schedule around it.
I think the point I’m making is that if Texas and Oklahoma come over then it’s not going to be like aTm and Mizzou did one year after announcing it. Missouri’s contract was up after the 2011 season and aTm only had another year of their contract to pay off to get out. Plus I think Texas just wanted one less real power to get in their way.

We are playing Texas next year. But it is not likely to be a SEC game unless there is an immediate dissolution of the Big XII overnight. Like I have said, Sinclair still has substantial power over broadcasting in the Big XII and isn’t likely to give it up for cheap. Especially when they would lose OU vs Texas.
 

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Sinclair is the devil, asked for such a high price that all streaming services dropped them, even Dish Network dropped all the regional networks in 2019. Forces me to use my sister's Uverse login so I can watch the Braves in the Bally app. Supposedly they are launching a Bally direct to consumer streaming service before the 2022 MLB season starts. They are going to charge $23 a month though. No thank you, I'll continue to poach my sister's login.
I wish they would go bankrupt but they are one of the largest entertainment industries in the US. Sports is just a drop in the hat
 
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I think the point I’m making is that if Texas and Oklahoma come over then it’s not going to be like aTm and Mizzou did one year after announcing it. Missouri’s contract was up after the 2011 season and aTm only had another year of their contract to pay off to get out. Plus I think Texas just wanted one less real power to get in their way.

We are playing Texas next year. But it is not likely to be a SEC game unless there is an immediate dissolution of the Big XII overnight. Like I have said, Sinclair still has substantial power over broadcasting in the Big XII and isn’t likely to give it up for cheap. Especially when they would lose OU vs Texas.
Looks to me like there's enough money on the table to take care of Sinclair, NBC and everyone else at the table if this goes down. I don't think money owed to those entities will prevent any of the expansion. The big dollars are sitting at he SEC table, everyone else is small potatoes.
 

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Im having issues with believing that aTm was unaware about this for 6 months. Texas isn’t exactly the best state to keep an athletic conspiracy in… Especially when it pertains to Austin. The morons couldn’t keep the Saban news quiet so how in the world are they going to keep this quiet.

I lean more to aTm picking an opportune time to throw a wrench in it and force Texas to hurt in the pocket before coming.
I tend to agree with this general assessment. Aggies & Bears & Cougars are currently working the hotlines to the TX legislature to put the kibosh on it.

I've said that Aggies may want to use this opportunity to squeeze as much leverage as they can out of the process before deciding to then vote yes to make it unanimous. Who knows. It's Texas so it has to include all kinds of subterfuges happening as we speak! :D
 
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