BREAKING SEC will begin penalizing coaches this week if it is determined players feign injury during games

[rtr90]

Matt Austin is a screw up! But that was one of the worst fake injuries I have seen

thats becos Bama doesnt have experience with this. Better acting needed

 

[Elefantman]

If the team with possession substitutes, at least one player coming off the bench needs to report to the ref. That way, they will know to allow the other team an opportunity to sub. Failure to report will be a 5 yard penalty.

 

[Redwood Forrest]

The key was "if it is determined". That made me cringe with thoughts of the determination of targeting.

 

[davefrat]

There’s a video on ESPN that shows Jaxson Dart tell the RB to go down…it’s so blatant that it’s absurd.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

There’s a video on ESPN that shows Jaxson Dart tell the RB to go down…it’s so blatant that it’s absurd.

OM, UTe and the barn started it. But when they didn’t get punished, the practice spread. Now everybody does it. Yes, including us.

 

[day-day]

Matt Austin is a screw up! But that was one of the worst fake injuries I have seen

DeBoer was calling timeout when it appeared to me that an assistant panicked and got the wild idea to have the player go back in and fake an injury. Of course, the UT fans and the rest of the world had a field day with it and none of these boobs would admit that the refs screwed up to start with.

The one-time Alabama does the fake has become the poster child for fake injuries. I don't think it would pass the smell test under the new rule.

 

[Tidewater]

I guess there are things the conference can do (fine coaches) and things only the NCAA can do (change the rules to charge a timeout and withhold the injured player for the remainder of that possession).
Both have their place.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

DeBoer was calling timeout when it appeared to me that an assistant panicked and got the wild idea to have the player go back in and fake an injury. Of course, the UT fans and the rest of the world had a field day with it and none of these boobs would admit that the refs screwed up to start with.

The one-time Alabama does the fake has become the poster child for fake injuries. I don't think it would pass the smell test under the new rule.

funny how it was never a big deal to fake injuries until Alabama did it

 

[Ledsteplin]

The way i read this is the players are just going to have get better at feigning injury. Maybe learn to vomit on signal or something. Fake a groin injury.

They could add "feigning injury" to weekly practices.

 

[Bidgood]

I appreciate the effort, but this will probably only lead to better acting. If players personally make the call to "be hurt", no coach is going to say they're not. If there's no signal from the bench, there's nothing to enforce.

 

[Con]

I appreciate the effort, but this will probably only lead to better acting. If players personally make the call to "be hurt", no coach is going to say they're not. If there's no signal from the bench, there's nothing to enforce.

Could be another item to discuss and practice it during the week so the players learn the best situations to do it.

 

[crimsonaudio]

That'll help, maybe. If this were the case, I think we'd see a higher frequency of defensive players going down once the drive gets inside the 10-15 yard line. At least until such time as the fines are issued AND collected.

I dunno, red zone defense isn't the area you typically want starters on the sidelines...

 

[Joefus]

I mean a good rule to have I just don’t understand how you can prove it if it’s not blatant. Especially teams like the barn that like to take everything to court anytime there’s not a smoking gun

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I mean a good rule to have I just don’t understand how you can prove it if it’s not blatant. Especially teams like the barn that like to take everything to court anytime there’s not a smoking gun

I could see a team literally going to court over it and getting a doctor to commit perjury.

 

[BamaNation]

OM, UTe and the barn started it. But when they didn’t get punished, the practice spread. Now everybody does it. Yes, including us.

and that's when they came up with this new punishment. Thankfully. And we're all embarrassed in watching it happen. Football first principles are ... "Do NOT be soccer"

 

[Power Eye]

They should concentrate more on the horrible officiating than on this...

How will they determine this anyways?

I feel very confident the SEC officials will manage this rule change without any issues.

 

[uafan4life]

Finally.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Matt Austin is a screw up! But that was one of the worst fake injuries I have seen

Really?!? Do you know the play that we are talking about here?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Looks like Sankey's letter defines faking after the fact. Which means in-game penalties of whatever description wouldn't be assessed. Only after the game is over and decided.

IOW, it's a nice start, but doesn't go far enough.

What should happen in game is:
- If we have to stop the game for your injury, you're out for the remainder of the possession. Might be a play. Might be 15. You're out until a change of possession.

After the fact:
- We'll assess fines, suspensions and the like later. They're still pending even after the game is over, and even if a penalty wasn't assessed in-game.
- Any assessed fines go not to the SEC, but to the opposing school.
- For example, if Team X flops against Team Y, and later gets assessed a $500K fine, that $500K goes directly to Team Y's athletic department.
- If post-game review indicates that a starter was pulled, a scrub was substituted, and the scrub faked an injury in order to stop the clock, the HC is suspended for a game and forfeits 1/12th of his salary to the opposing school.

Don't like the cases where a player just has the breath knocked out or has cramps and really is ready to come back a play or two later? Tough noogies. You shouldn't have perverted provisions designed to protect player safety.

You reap what you sow.

While Ole Miss, the barn, and UTe pioneered and/or perfected the fake, all schools do it now, including us. If the officials aren't going to assess a penalty of some sort, why would anyone else cede a competitive advantage?

Like a lot of things, the fake injury itself isn't illegal. But it contravenes the spirit of the game. That gap has been abused to the point that the distinction is no longer relevant.

Time has come for real penalties to be assessed both in-game and after the fact.

I've preached that for at least 25 years, but it does need backup with fines afterwards. Otherwise, you'll just see 3rd stringers sent in to accomplish it...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

There’s a video on ESPN that shows Jaxson Dart tell the RB to go down…it’s so blatant that it’s absurd.

The worst I've seen was AU, probably 20 years ago. The camera in the back of the EZ was on and the safety looks towards the corner, to his left, lifts his hand slightly and points. At that point the corner remembers his role and crumples to the ground...