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I have also been impressed with both sessions. The committee has blended the dialogue with its videos in a manner that anyone should be able to understand. I think it has been very effective linking the people and events. Noticed Fox carried today's session unlike the first session last Thursday. I hope the DOJ is watching and taking notes.
 
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I have also been impressed with both sessions. The committee has blended the dialogue with its videos in a manner that anyone should be able to understand. I think it has been very effective linking the people and events. Noticed Fox carried today's session unlike the first session last Thursday. I hope the DOJ is watching and taking notes.
The money won out... :)
 

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One of the major factors today was to explain Trump has raised 1/4 billion dollars with his big lie. That’s something I hope breaks through the fog for the average Fox customer.
 
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Trump responds (reportedly, I've not verified but it uses 2000 mules as a source so probably accurate)


edit, it is real and 2000 mules, a Dinesh D'souza "documentary" is the primary source
Good grief, I struggled with page 1 and then scanned. The best I could tell, mules were picking up dropboxes and stuffing them with illegal ballots. I hadn't heard about these mules until today.

I guess I should watch Fox News more. Then I'd be smarter.
 

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Good grief, I struggled with page 1 and then scanned. The best I could tell, mules were picking up dropboxes and stuffing them with illegal ballots. I hadn't heard about these mules until today.

I guess I should watch Fox News more. Then I'd be smarter.
I've seen #2000 mules signs around this area with the other election signs. Not knowing what it was I dug in. It is yet another psuedo documentary by a discredited and pardoned felon Dinesh D'souza. It follows the typical conspiracy bs using partial truths, odd coincidences and outright lies to try to build a case for trumps election lies.
 

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a few people responding differently and we would be living in a dictatorship

people need to understand how close we were

still are in fact

Many people have a poor understanding of coups in general and of this one in particular.

They view the insurrection, which was dangerous enough by itself, in isolation from other events when it was really a last ditch effort (though word is it may not have been THE last ditch desired - there is evidence Trump desired to use the military but was effectively countered).

They also often erroneously believe that a coup is by definition a violent affair and/or involves the military taking action. That is just not true and coups are most often fairly nonviolent.


If enough officials and representatives had been cajoled into coordinated action, then their withdrawal of support from legitimate electoral procedures—it seems to have been hoped—could have facilitated a bloodless coup (or what Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called, “a smooth transition to a second Trump administration.”)Footnote29



Myth: Coups are violent, bloody fights for power, just like civil wars.
“When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die,” as the hit TV show put it. “There is no middle ground.” Observers regularly contrast violent coups (“bullets”) with nonviolent elections (“ballots”), as political scientist Brian P. Klaas did in a 2015 paper. Encyclopaedia Britannica goes so far as to define coups as “the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group,” lumping them together with rebellions and revolutions as forms of collective violence. PITF researchers likewise often analyze coups alongside revolutionary or ethnic civil wars, genocide and politicide.

Unlike in armed conflict and civil wars, fighting and death are not defining features of coups. Sure, all coup attempts involve at least the implicit threat of force, but fewer than half result in fatalities, according to data compiled by the political scientist Erica De Bruin. My own data suggests that 80 percent of coup attempts under autocracy involved explicit threats of force, less than 60 percent saw shots fired, less than 15 percent led to at least 25 deaths (a standard threshold among scholars for armed conflict) and only 1 percent escalated to fighting that caused at least 1,000 deaths (a standard threshold for civil war). In Tunisia’s “medical coup” in November 1987, for example, President Habib Bourguiba was ousted by Prime Minister Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, who sent doctors to the presidential palace in the middle of the night to examine Bourguiba and declare him unfit. As Naunihal Singh argues, coups may be better thought of as complex “coordination games” rather than “pitched battles” among military factions.
 
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So far, more than 820 people have been charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, according to the Associated Press. Of those, 311 have entered a guilty plea or been convicted of crimes. More than 190 of them have been sentenced so far by a total of 20 judges. Of those sentenced, 83 have been sentenced to jail time, 62 with house arrest and 59 with fines.

 
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What bothers me most about this is that there are a significant number of people in this country who think that any government with which they do not agree is illegitimate. I've come to the conclusion that January 6 is but a small forerunner of what could happen in the days/years to come. And to think that it is all in the name of a distorted patriotism.
 

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What bothers me most about this is that there are a significant number of people in this country who think that any government with which they do not agree is illegitimate. I've come to the conclusion that January 6 is but a small forerunner of what could happen in the days/years to come. And to think that it is all in the name of a distorted patriotism.
I've had similar thoughts. Apparently, it's more important that the government agree with their principles than having a democratic government...
 

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Monday a GOP consultant canceled his appearance at the hearings at the last minute because his wife went into labor. This is a guy now working for the MAGA candidate running against Liz Cheney.
Does anybody know if she actually had her baby or was it a false alarm?
 

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Monday a GOP consultant canceled his appearance at the hearings at the last minute because his wife went into labor. This is a guy now working for the MAGA candidate running against Liz Cheney.
Does anybody know if she actually had her baby or was it a false alarm?
I can find no article stating the baby has been born.

They played some of his previous testimony video in his absence.

He is Trump's former campaign manager.

 

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I can find no article stating the baby has been born.

They played some of his previous testimony video in his absence.

He is Trump's former campaign manager.

I think he was working for Chris Christie when they were pulling Bridgegate.

It sure caught the committee off guard when he canceled at the last minute.
 
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I was puzzled at the report of Capitol Police that no one he escorted was involved. How would they know anyway? I thought all that info rested with the FBI...
 
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