Have to include the kid from aTm last year, no?
Texas A&M QB has broken hand, out for Alabama game (9 of 22 ATM starters out vs Bama)
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In all honesty, I erased that, LOL!
But you're correct.
OK, so since 2008 MAYBE THREE.
One every five years or so.
Hasn't been five years.
That's happened twice in the past 12 years. Not exactly a "habit".
It's been a long history, I have a specific gut pain thinking of some Iron Bowl where Alabama knocked the starter out only for the backup to throw a TD pass to win it. I also remember the same happening in a bowl game against Michigan, a team that in those days averaged throwing it like 5 times a game. In my lifetime Alabama has been on the losing end of way too many miracle, tear down the goalposts endings and a disturbing number of those losses came to QB's who couldn't even maintain the starting job the following year.
I think it's a bit of a Syndrome that players get playing Alabama, where they think they need a miracle to win so they play with wreckless abandon, something that can produce unexpected positive results, or backfire resulting in a blowout. I forget the blowouts, but the upsets hurt deep inside forever.
I think it's a bit of a Syndrome that players get playing Alabama, where they think they need a miracle to win so they play with wreckless abandon, something that can produce unexpected positive results, or backfire resulting in a blowout. I forget the blowouts, but the upsets hurt deep inside forever.
I think the game has lost a chunk of its luster with the fanbases, especially aTm. One of my son's baseball coaches is an aTm grad, a huge supporter of the football program, and originally had tickets to this game. He since has sold his tickets and will be watching from his recliner. He is disgusted with Jimbo and the mediocrity that he's put on the field.
I believe they are all suffering from what in the medical community is referred to as "hyperthermic pneumocolitis". It is a condition caused in athletics when coaches, alumni, fans, and wealthy Aggie boosters continually blow hot air up ones nether regions.
Trevor knight also but you point is very valid.
Trevor Knight - in a game not one Tide player cared about.
Yeah, I get it, but I wouldn't even count this one.
As a reminder, we turned the ball over FIVE TIMES in that game. And in almost every game this comes up, yeah, our DEFENSE gives up yards because our OFFENSE turns the ball over and they get tired.
Tom Brady??????
The only other bowl game we lost to Michigan was the 1988 Hall of Fame Bowl where Demetrius Brown threw for 68 yards.
Memory has a funny way of lying to all of us. I think when it does happen it so memorable that fans have a weird way of equating it with everything. So, it feels like it happens more than it does. In 2014 Josh Dobbs came off the bench and made the game annoying for Bama. UT still only scored 20 points, Bama never trailed in the game and won by double digits. But if I remember correctly, The Alabama offense stalled after getting a big lead in the first qtr. Which kind of ties into your point Selma.
My theory: When these backup QBs play against Alabama's defense, there is no expectation that they will have any success. Aside from the fear of getting hurt, there's no pressure on them. Consequently, they can play in a head space most players can't. This allows them to take risks. You have to take risks against great defenses. Throw in some great receivers (most of them had at least one all-conference-level guy to throw to) and some luck, and you look like a Goliath killer.
When you have some natural ability and you're loose, you're WAY better than when you have better natural ability and you're tight.
(A side note: It will be interesting to see if Milroe looks as poised as he did last week. Does a week to prepare make him tighter?)
When you have some natural ability and you're loose, you're WAY better than when you have better natural ability and you're tight.
(A side note: It will be interesting to see if Milroe looks as poised as he did last week. Does a week to prepare make him tighter?)
Wait when did those QBs come off the bench? Or are we just talking about mobile QBs?
They did not come off the bencg but they were 2 mediocre QBs that our defense made look good.
This aged poorly 
on the defensive line Jackson and Adeleye are huge! their strength.
on the oline, Zuhn is even worse!
( conspiracy theory) maybe they posted that to throw Bama off ……… ; )…….. those are great losses if they aren’t playing, especially Jackson and Zuhn
An average game for Bo Wallace for his career:
19 for 30 for 244 yards.
Bo Wallace Stats in 2014 Game:
18 for 31 for 251 yards
11 rushes for 32 yards (15 on one play)
I wouldn't call one less completion for only 7 more yards any kind of evidence this guy somehow lit us up and played above his reputation.
But then again, why don't we take a closer look at the 2014 season - and something else comes up:
Clint Trickett (WVA) - career avg: 257 (vs Alabama 365)
Brandon Allen (ARK) - career avg: 196 (vs Alabama 246)
Dak Prescott (MSU) career avg: 248 (vs Alabama 290....despite 3 INT)
Nick Marshall (Aub) career avg: 162 (vs Alabama 456)
Maty Mauk (MO) career avg: 183 (vs Alabama 272)
Note that in a few cases (like Trickett and Dak), I cut out where they played a bunch of games in an early season but didn't have a lot of passes as a means to equalize it. ALSO - the numbers would probably look worse if we cut out the garbage number stats where a QB throws for 600 yards again Tennessee Temple seminary.
So fans here want to say, "Well a bunch of QBs have suddenly popped up and done fantastic against us."
Then they want to say, "Bo Wallace and Cardale Jones did it in 2014."
Why do they EXCLUDE the players listed above - many (like Nick Marshall) who lit up the secondary and had the best game of their lives stats wise?
Because people only remember the losses when compiling this nonsense; they conveniently cut out the fact the pass defense might be shown to not be good but since we won nobody was looking for excuses.
This is why narratives make me sick.
The data above simply suggests the 2014 Alabama pass defense wasn't very good in the first place, a point @81usaf92 has made on this board time and again.
How many of you remember that Nick Marshall absolutely torched us? Almost nobody - because we won the game, and everyone remembers Blake to Amari. And we had some good defenses that gave up a lot of passing yards but didn't allow the opposition to score a lot of points. We held Arky to 13, Mizzou to 13, aTm to 0, LSU to 13 with an overtime included.
Now we do have to be careful because statistics don't show everything. A QB might compile 300 yards in a second half against a bunch of fourth-stringers when he entered the game with his team down 38-7 and had to pass every play.
But there's not a huge list of quarterbacks who basically got up on Saturday morning and decided, "Think I'll go play ball today" and put some half-baked mediocrity on their backs and carried them to a win.
I'll touch on Porn Kelly in another post.
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