Transfer Portal 2023-2024...

[CrimSonami]

It's impossible to grade our net portal losses until after the April window where we think we'll be net gainers. Two of these players, Seth and Little, had already left before Coach. Seth and Bonds have already been replaced with comparable players. No doubt the secondary losses hurt, and will need to be a focus in April.

I think we have a pretty good advisor on staff who can help with DB’s

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Well, now we have two more 5* star players....I wonder where we're going to have room for all those 3* recruits CKD can only get?

Just a Minute: Two Alabama Signees Earn Fifth Star

The Alabama football team is bringing in one of the most talented secondary classes in the country.

www.si.com

 

[gtgilbert]

It's impossible to grade our net portal losses until after the April window where we think we'll be net gainers. Two of these players, Seth and Little, had already left before Coach. Seth and Bonds have already been replaced with comparable players. No doubt the secondary losses hurt, and will need to be a focus in April.

I think you're right that we won't know the net gain/loss for a while, and it's really probably Sept before we really see how things shake out in games. Even with the new OC and WR coming in, while we can be optimistic about them, we won't really know their full measure until they get into SEC game play.

 

[FitToBeTide]

In the day, big boys did things like that.
BTW: Big John was super strong...

Which, you may recall, led him to be a champ in heavyweight classification on Bama’s wrestling team when it was a sport here.

 

[JohnD]

I'll go one step further and say we won't truly be able to grade our net portal losses and gains until the season plays out.

Same as with recruiting. You won't know just how good the class was until 2-3 seasons have passed. We've had so many 5 stars who didn't make it past the first year.

 

[Ledsteplin]

well, there are 5 starters, 6 if you count Amos since he started in dime.

Seth, Bond, Niblack, Proctor, Downs, Amos.

The bigger thing is also who was likely to be starting since we have a lot leaving for the NFL also.

Likely very likely Dez Ricks and Little in CB and nickel roles. Possible Preston. So let's settle on 8 guys that were slated as starters. That's a third of our projected starting lineup - that's not insignificant, especially when several of those guys backups also hit the road.

I thought Dippre was the starting TE. With Niblack a close 2. I guess they were more like co-starters, depending on the play.

 

[JohnD]

Well, now we have two more 5* star players....I wonder where we're going to have room for all those 3* recruits CKD can only get?

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Just a Minute: Two Alabama Signees Earn Fifth Star

The Alabama football team is bringing in one of the most talented secondary classes in the country.

www.si.com

It's funny how the narrative implies "well, NOW we have drop-in replacements for McKinstry and Arnold. Now that they picked up the 5th star!".

It looks good on paper though.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Well, now we have two more 5* star players....I wonder where we're going to have room for all those 3* recruits CKD can only get?

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Just a Minute: Two Alabama Signees Earn Fifth Star

The Alabama football team is bringing in one of the most talented secondary classes in the country.

www.si.com

How does that happen, without new film or anything to judge? I'm not complaining, just don't understand how that works.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

How does that happen, without new film or anything to judge? I'm not complaining, just don't understand how that works.

It worked the same way when Saban was our coach and across the board, with other recruits we didn't get, and I have no idea what facilitates the change.

Maybe they see them at camps that aren't very publicized or attend private workouts, etc. I know there's a kid on my 13U baseball team who is an excellent football player and he attends A LOT of "football camps" that range from the summer time and spring time. I know not all of them make the front page of the national recruiting websites. But, something is going on for recruits to get reclassified from 4* to 5*.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

It's funny how the narrative implies "well, NOW we have drop in replacements for McKinstry and Arnold. Now that they picked up the 5th star!".

It looks good on paper though.

It's purely subjective on both ends of the conversation. IMO, McKinstry did not live up to his hype. I think he hurt his draft stock this season with all the muffed punts and times he got burnt. The guy was supposed to be lock down but though he wasn't anywhere near a "bust", he dang sure didn't perform according to the hype that came with him.

 

[Coach25]

I think we have a pretty good advisor on staff who can help with DB’s

New hire… a special assistant the the DB coach every welcome Rick Sabintino.

we are looking to add another DB coach…. Leon Sandcastle.

 

[crimsonaudio]

How does that happen, without new film or anything to judge? I'm not complaining, just don't understand how that works.

They're constantly grading the players which takes a lot of time. There are only ~30 (iirc) 5* each season, so as they have time to view more and more film of the various players, they elevate them (or lower them) according to those spots available.

 

[Cruiser]

Not transfers; but this is nice to see. 3 of top 4 corners in the country Bama bound

 

[Ledsteplin]

Well, now we have two more 5* star players....I wonder where we're going to have room for all those 3* recruits CKD can only get?

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Just a Minute: Two Alabama Signees Earn Fifth Star

The Alabama football team is bringing in one of the most talented secondary classes in the country.

www.si.com

These 3 true freshmen, Mincey, Brown, and Mbakwe I think will be great additions to the DB room. They definitely have the right attitude. There's even this meme floating around. They'll be pushing the starters for sure.

 

[JohnD]

It's purely subjective on both ends of the conversation. IMO, McKinstry did not live up to his hype. I think he hurt his draft stock this season with all the muffed punts and times he got burnt. The guy was supposed to be lock down but though he wasn't anywhere near a "bust", he dang sure didn't perform according to the hype that came with him.

I agree. We'll see how the muffs affects his draft status, if at all. It depends on what a team wants. McKinstry was not always lock down, but he generally had to deal with the best receiver too.

 

[JohnD]

These 3 true freshmen, Mincey, Brown, and Mbakwe I think will be great additions to the DB room. They definitely have the right attitude. There's even this meme floating around. They'll be pushing the starters for sure. View attachment 40401

Mbakwe and Mincey I definitely get. I'm a little surprised by Brown getting this bump though. It's hard to read anything into what happens in an all star game, but Brown did not show me #3 CB ability. Did not look as fast. Maybe he had an off day or miscommunication on who to cover.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I agree. We'll see how the muffs affects his draft status, if at all. It depends on what a team wants. McKinstry was not always lock down, but he generally had to deal with the best receiver too.

That's what elite players are supposed to do and that's why I'm saying he didn't live up to the hype that came with him. Granted, he wasn't a liability on the field, but "elite" wasn't in his defensive play.

 

[gtgilbert]

I thought Dippre was the starting TE. With Niblack a close 2. I guess they were more like co-starters, depending on the play.

Niblack was the 3rd leading receiver on the team (only 320ish yards) but it was still 3rd...

 

[gtgilbert]

How does that happen, without new film or anything to judge? I'm not complaining, just don't understand how that works.

participation in all-star games, etc. Same thing happened to Pierre last year. Made a huge jump. I think same thing also happened to one, Will Anderson.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Mbakwe and Mincey I definitely get. I'm a little surprised by Brown getting this bump though. It's hard to read anything into what happens in an all star game, but Brown did not show me #3 CB ability. Did not look as fast. Maybe he had an off day or miscommunication on who to cover.

I haven't seen any of them play. I do hear they're good though. No clue about Brown. And no clue about those ratings on the meme. I don't always believe memes. LOL