US economy firing on all cylinders

I'll give him credit ONLY when he can balance the budget. You are only looking at one side of the equation. Any dummy can artificially pump up the economy by cutting taxes or spending like a drunken sailor. Unfortunately for our children, Dubya has done both.:eek:
 
KillVols said:
Its amazing to me that we are almost fully employed... the economy is booming... the Fed is pulling in record tax revenues... (a direct result of cutting taxes) We are growing like this in spite of the war and gas prices...

Amazing isn't it... Does Bush get any credit points?? Waht would be the headlines in the media if this were a Clinton economy?



http://www.theage.com.au/news/Busin...-cylinders-data/2006/05/04/1146335833470.html

Employment figures do not include 1. Those looking for jobs or 2) Those not reporting.
 
KillVols said:
Its amazing to me that we are almost fully employed... the economy is booming... the Fed is pulling in record tax revenues... (a direct result of cutting taxes) We are growing like this in spite of the war and gas prices...

Amazing isn't it... Does Bush get any credit points?? Waht would be the headlines in the media if this were a Clinton economy?



http://www.theage.com.au/news/Busin...-cylinders-data/2006/05/04/1146335833470.html


Don't waste your time. Dub-ya could walk on water, heal the sick, raise the dead, turn water into wine, make the blind see, lame walk and he'd still be a failure.

Another man did this and still had people against him. Might be why he said "Don't throw your pearls to pigs....". ;) In other words you're wasting your time with people that have their minds already made up.

Happy Memorial Day!!!
 
I put this quote on the thread about Sen. Bensten's death, but it seems to apply on this thread too.

BROKAW: Senator Bentsen, you were a businessman before you entered the U.S. Senate. Let me offer you an inventory if I may: Lower interest rates, lower unemployment, lower inflation and an arms control deal with the Soviet Union. Now two guys come through your door at your business and say, "We'd like you to change," without offering a lot of specifics. Why would you accept their deal?

BENTSEN: You know, if you let me write $200 billion worth of hot checks every year, I could give you an illusion of prosperity, too. (Laughter and applause)

This is an administration that has more than doubled the national debt, and they've done that in less than eight years. They have taken this country from the No. 1 lender nation in the world to the No. 1 debtor nation in the world. And the interest on that debt next year, on this Reagan-Bush debt of our nation, is going to be $640 for every man, woman, and child in America because of this kind of a credit-card mentality. So we go out and we try to sell our securities every week, and hope that the foreigners will buy them. And they do buy them. But every time they do, we lose some of our economic independence for the future. Now they've turned around and they've bought 10 percent of the manufacturing base of this country. They bought 20 percent of the banks. They own 46 percent of the commercial real estate in Los Angeles. They are buying America on the cheap. Now, when we have other countries that can't manage their economy down in Central and South America, we send down the American ambassador, we send down the International Monetary Fund, and we tell them what they can buy and what they can sell and how to run their economies. The ultimate irony would be to have that happen to us, because foreigners finally quit buying our securities. So what we need in this country is someone like Mike Dukakis, who gave ten balanced budgets in a row there, and was able to do that, meet that kind of a commitment, set those tough priorities. We need an administration that will turn this trade policy around and open up those markets, stand tough with our trading partners to help keep the jobs at home and send the products abroad.
 
KillVols said:
the Fed is pulling in record tax revenues... (a direct result of cutting taxes)

Nixon froze prices and wages and the economy picked up. Does that mean we need to freeze prices and wages?

Consumption and wage pressure is driving this, not tax cuts.
 
Hey Bodhi! You are the economist. Evaluate the veracity of Killvols claim that the Bush economy is healthy and good for the USA.

I tend to think that the 400 billion dollars worth of bad checks are the reason for increased tax revenues and low unemployment.

When I look at the housing industry, I tremble. Here in LA, there are more unsold houses on the market than ever before in history. The "condo boom" has completely died...a LOT of folks are going to be stuck with $500,000 condos that nobody is willing to buy for $250,000.

B-Buz's lament that Dubya could emulate Christ and still be criticized seems more amazing to me when reversed: Dubya has tanked in virtually every aspect of leadership, and there are still some who sing his praises as if he WERE Christ.

I miss Bill....
 
Hey Bodhi! You are the economist. Evaluate the veracity of Killvols claim that the Bush economy is healthy and good for the USA.

I tend to think that the 400 billion dollars worth of bad checks are the reason for increased tax revenues and low unemployment.

When I look at the housing industry, I tremble. Here in LA, there are more unsold houses on the market than ever before in history. The "condo boom" has completely died...a LOT of folks are going to be stuck with $500,000 condos that nobody is willing to buy for $250,000.

B-Buz's lament that Dubya could emulate Christ and still be criticized seems more amazing to me when reversed: Dubya has tanked in virtually every aspect of leadership, and there are still some who sing his praises as if he WERE Christ.

I miss Bill....;)
 
KillVols said:
Its amazing to me that we are almost fully employed... the economy is booming... the Fed is pulling in record tax revenues... (a direct result of cutting taxes) We are growing like this in spite of the war and gas prices...

Amazing isn't it... Does Bush get any credit points?? Waht would be the headlines in the media if this were a Clinton economy?



http://www.theage.com.au/news/Busin...-cylinders-data/2006/05/04/1146335833470.html


This is a far better economy than Clinton had, and you are right, the left wing media would hardly be able to report it for their breathlessness if it were during Billy boy Clinton's term.

Bush built this economy inspite of 9-11, but the Dims, would rather eat broken glass than admit he's had any success.
 
florabama said:
This is a far better economy than Clinton had, and you are right, the left wing media would hardly be able to report it for their breathlessness if it were during Billy boy Clinton's term.

Bush built this economy inspite of 9-11, but the Dims, would rather eat broken glass than admit he's had any success.

Broken glass ain't that bad with a little syrup on it.
 
I am glad this is such a good economy. I have been looking unsuccessfully for a job for 8 months. The place I worked for 33 years shut down last fall. Yes, I can go to work for half the money. And from where I sit that is what the conservatives in this world would have me do. It may come to that, but I'm not ready to do that just yet.
 
My take - Bush had a great deal to do with our economic recovery. Yes, he did it in a war environment, but that is the hand that he was dealt. His tax cuts helped in poorer households, but they were not the primary reason for the recovery.

Wars create the need for increased spending. America (and every other country) takes on debt every time that we go to war, and we always have. It costs money to fight a war. Most of that money was spent right here in America, which created jobs and pumped even more money into the general economy. When more people are working, more people are buying standard products. Every boat is lifted by the "high tide" of economic prosperity.

Now for the real question. Where would our economy be right now without the war in Iraq? No one knows. I only wish that Bush had cut into other programs to offset the war spending, but I am not sure what the economic impact of that would have been. In short, I blame Bush for the deficit spending, but I also give him credit for the economic recovery. He played the hand that he was dealt. Not quite the way that I would have, but no president in recent history has been dealt such ****ty cards...
 
NYBamaFan said:
He played the hand that he was dealt. Not quite the way that I would have, but no president in recent history has been dealt such ****ty cards...

Yeah but didn't Bush shuffle and cut the deck himself?
 
NYBamaFan said:
His tax cuts helped in poorer households, but they were not the primary reason for the recovery.

...

How do you figure that?

The wealthier households made out like a bandit with the tax cuts.

Poorer households don't pay a lot of Fed/state taxes anyway (save for sales taxes). The Bush budget cuts hit local block grants pretty hard.....local block grants affect the local food banks greatly. Local food pantries are still ailing.
 
It's On A Slab said:
How do you figure that?

The wealthier households made out like a bandit with the tax cuts.

Poorer households don't pay a lot of Fed/state taxes anyway (save for sales taxes).
Sorry - you are correct, I meant his tax rebates, though his tax cuts to the wealthy probably pumped more money into the economy. Remember, the high tide of economic prosperity lifts all boats. (I can't believe that I have used that twice today)...
 

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