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22Musso22

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As an older poster who grew up in the 1970's, players were given scholarlships to play collegiate football.

There was a day when athletic scholarships meant something.

There was a day when athletic scholarships were a way to reach your dreams and wildest aspirations in your chosen vocation.

Now? What do athletic scholarships really mean?

The scholarships I am emphasizing are Football scholarships.

Sure, in the 70's and 80's, etc., money was taken under the table by players and facilitated by boosters, but for the majority of athletes there was pride in graduating after 4 years and getting that diploma. Having a plan B if your NFL dreams were to die.

Welcome to COLLEGE NIL.

The NIL is nothing but minor league football. Amateur Athletes positioning themselves at selected colleges for the most money and highest NFL draft position.

Most players (NOT ALL, but a vast majority) will only be loyal to the highest bidder and team chemistry will be destroyed when each player is eyeing another team for a more lucrative situation on a day to day basis.

Today we saw our team play uninspired, lazy on defense , no fire and lackluster to say the least. When you are a college age millionaire, what is the motivation? What is the motivation when you already are set for life financially?

Where is the fight AGAINST ADVERSITY when you don't have to accept ADVERSITY anymore? Where is the fight when you are financially secure and are looking to make even more money playing for another college team next year? How can you have team chemistry when you are only fighting for yourself?

There is NO MORE fire in the belly!

This culture and collegiate football has lost it's way.
 
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B1GTide

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I don't think that the kids at Alabama don't care - i think that they simply did not believe that they could lose this game. I mean, why work hard to prepare for a team that you do not believe can beat you?

The coaches did not see this coming. DeBoer just said that he thought that the team had a good week in practice leading up to the game. If he is telling the truth then Alabama is in real trouble, because the head coach needs to be able to see the difference in his players approach to a game and get after them when they are not focused.

This is on the coaches, IMO.
 

22Musso22

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I don't think that the kids at Alabama don't care - i think that they simply did not believe that they could lose this game. I mean, why work hard to prepare for a team that you do not believe can beat you?

The coaches did not see this coming. DeBoer just said that he thought that the team had a good week in practice leading up to the game. If he is telling the truth then Alabama is in real trouble, because the head coach needs to be able to see the difference in his players approach to a game and get after them when they are not focused.

This is on the coaches, IMO.
Did the Alabama defense look liked they cared or were they more worried about cashing their checks this week?

My fear is that the definition of team has become obsolete.
 

22Musso22

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Or maybe they were poorly coached?

Look at Michigan last year. They epitimomized team.
My point is that college football is now officially NFL lite. This was not just an Alabama rant, this is a rant against the whole system. How did Georgia look today? Did they look poorly coached? Were they more interested in cashing their NIL money?
 

theballguy

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I don't think that the kids at Alabama don't care - i think that they simply did not believe that they could lose this game. I mean, why work hard to prepare for a team that you do not believe can beat you?

The coaches did not see this coming. DeBoer just said that he thought that the team had a good week in practice leading up to the game. If he is telling the truth then Alabama is in real trouble, because the head coach needs to be able to see the difference in his players approach to a game and get after them when they are not focused.

This is on the coaches, IMO.
Absolutely on the coaches. But, with NIL, what can coaches really do at this level? The kids don't have an incentive to win but they do have incentives to make big tv plays. We all know those are will only result in wins against lesser programs but not SEC teams. Teams still have to be teams to win.

At least with NFL, coaches can preach legacy and incentives for championship wins. At this level, I don't think there's anything to push for 95% of them.
 
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Cruloc

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I think coaches now also have the issue of disciplining someone. Say, someone that showed their butt at the end of loss.....or anyone that acted in a way unbecoming of what a coach should want.

You sit a player or discipline a player for something....and then he just says, nope, I'm redshirting and transferring.

Where is the growth? Where is the overcoming adversity? Kids in this NIL era care less about overcoming adversity and more about how much money they can make.
 

22Musso22

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I think coaches now also have the issue of disciplining someone. Say, someone that showed their butt at the end of loss.....or anyone that acted in a way unbecoming of what a coach should want.
Here is a discipline reason DeBoer should have to face:
 
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rjtide

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I don't think that the kids at Alabama don't care - i think that they simply did not believe that they could lose this game. I mean, why work hard to prepare for a team that you do not believe can beat you?

The coaches did not see this coming. DeBoer just said that he thought that the team had a good week in practice leading up to the game. If he is telling the truth then Alabama is in real trouble, because the head coach needs to be able to see the difference in his players approach to a game and get after them when they are not focused.

This is on the coaches, IMO.
Against an offense which requires discipline, fundamental soundness by the defense Bama had none. Totally 100% on the coaches
 

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bamaga

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Or maybe they were poorly coached?

Look at Michigan last year. They epitomized team.
Look at Vandy, they all were bought in . The team concept is still alive. With that said, I can see NIL causing uneven play from teams, even top teams. Having money at that age when you never had it before causes problems.
But I agree, the coaches have to be aware . Some like CKD’s style of not making the the team tight, players coach. I myself like a more disciplined approach. Putting traps around may be a good idea??? But I think they missed the mark in making kids understand what they stand for. I said it in the game thread, Bama lost this game Monday through Friday, it was too late on Saturday. Clearly the defense didn’t prepare for the triple option. And that inside shovel pass killed them . I haven't seen that play work in 10 years. The most points scored by Vandy in a P4 game this year. The offense didn’t play great, but, 35 points should have been enough to beat them . BTW, Pavia is 2-0 vs the state of Alabama.
 
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Power Eye

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I think it's easy to point the finger at things like NIL and say that there is no concept of team anymore, or that players are more concerned with cashing checks than laying it all on the line. Watching the game yesterday, I didn't think it's a problem of lack of effort as much as it was being totally confused from start to finish about what we were supposed to do on defense. Which might be more concerning.
 
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arthurdawg

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I regard this as a total team loss. The defense was the worst part, followed by coaching, but the offense didn't really step up times either.

Hopefully it will serve as a wake up call and we can sort things out to survive South Carolina and then be up to par for Tenn and Mizzou. I suspect we will lose at least one of those games though.
 

arthurdawg

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I think it's easy to point the finger at things like NIL and say that there is no concept of team anymore, or that players are more concerned with cashing checks than laying it all on the line. Watching the game yesterday, I didn't think it's a problem of lack of effort as much as it was being totally confused from start to finish about what we were supposed to do on defense. Which might be more concerning.
Agreed. We didn't prep for Vandy... and that makes a huge difference these days. I wouldn't be surprised for our performance to magically improve againt South Carolina since they run a modern offense.
 

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Here's the point about NIL that everyone is missing: NIL now makes is possible for ANY team to beat another team. This win would not have been possible without Diego Pavia and he wouldn't be at Vandy without NIL and weak as water transfer rules.

Pavia has 5000+ yards passing and 1700+ yards rushing for his collegiate career. Losses like this are now the norm in college football. #1, #4, #10, and #11 in the AP all lost to unranked teams. #8 had to come back from 25 down to take the lead with 35 seconds left.

This. Is. The. Norm.
 

B1GTide

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Here's the point about NIL that everyone is missing: NIL now makes is possible for ANY team to beat another team. This win would not have been possible without Diego Pavia and he wouldn't be at Vandy without NIL and weak as water transfer rules.

Pavia has 5000+ yards passing and 1700+ yards rushing for his collegiate career. Losses like this are now the norm in college football. #1, #4, #10, and #11 in the AP all lost to unranked teams. #8 had to come back from 25 down to take the lead with 35 seconds left.

This. Is. The. Norm.
Sorry, but Saban does not lose that game. The norm for lesser coaches, apparently. And everyone is lesser. Alabama just needs to get used to not being the Alabama of the last 17 years.
 

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