When will Tyler Buchner be on campus?

AWRTR

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He’s raised the floor at the very least.

If he’s not the starter that means the other two have at least a passing knowledge of the offense that Buchner spent two years in, and they’ve used their talent to pass him.
It’s not the offense he ran at ND. It’s CNS’s offense and both Buchner and the OC have to learn it. This gives those already in the system an advantage in reality.
 

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It’s not the offense he ran at ND. It’s CNS’s offense and both Buchner and the OC have to learn it. This gives those already in the system an advantage in reality.
It’s CNS’s phrasing and terminology, which helps with continuity. How those pieces are taught, put together, and utilized will be entirely Rees. In that regard Buchner is ahead of everyone else.
 
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It’s CNS’s phrasing and terminology, which helps with continuity. How those pieces are taught, put together, and utilized will be entirely Rees. In that regard Buchner is ahead of everyone else.
It’s Saban’s playbook from top to bottom. Rees will call the offense, but your teaching to make you point. Go read what BoB said about becoming OC at Bama.
 

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It’s Saban’s playbook from top to bottom. Rees will call the offense, but your teaching to make you point. Go read what BoB said about becoming OC at Bama.
And if you think the Alabama playbook is just some binder with certain plays in it you’ve lost your mind. This isn’t Tecmo bowl or Madden.

It’s terminology and pieces that can be put in different styles according to who puts the pieces together.

If the offense really is just sheets with plays on it explain why BoB’s offense didn’t look more like Sark’s. You going to tell me that Bob looked at the part of the playbook labeled, “plays that create mismatches and score touchdowns” and decided not to use it?
 

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I agree it is mainly terminology with a Saban mindset mixed in. Do this in a certain situation. The OC forms the offense around his style. Thus we will run the ball more this year. And mix in more play action. AWRTR was just giving his opinion from his understanding.It is an opinion board isn’t it?
 
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I think there's a certain offensive philosophy CNS tries to keep in place. He does like a balanced approach, as close to 50/50 run/pass as possible. He also gives the OC plenty of latitude in play design and implementation. Based on what we see with the beefing up of the OL, and bringing in some top notch running backs, it's obvious CNS wasn't pleased with the run game the last couple years. I definitely see more successful run plays this season with a balanced offense.
 

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Start at 7:27 - Cubelic says according to Kiffin, Daboll, and O'Brien they learn and run Saban's offense:

Then why does it look vastly different from coordinator to coordinator?

It’s Saban’s kitchen and ingredients, but the coordinators put their spin on the recipes. No other explanation makes sense, unless you really believe BoB just skipped over the plays Sark and Kiffin ran. Even the ones Locksley ran would have more success than some of the ones BoB called.

I did not watch the video before I made the analogy that Pate made.
 

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Because the playbook is YUGE.

As Cubelic said about UGA last year - they ran everything. You can only do that if it's in the playbook.
I think this is the point so many are missing. If a play has worked in the history of football it's probably in CNS's "playbook." Don't tell me those plays Sark ran aren't still there and they have a Bama playcall name. Now it's up to the new OC to figure out what they are called and to work them into game plans.

The fact that Sark and Kiffin were so creative and BOB so boring was in the play-caller not the playbook!

In regards to the new ND QB, he's got a lot of different play calls to learn even if a lot of them are similar plays he ran at ND.
 

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