Link: Wisconsin DC Jim Leonhard is leaving the Badgers program after the bowl 👀👀👀

[TexasBama]

“If you listen to the fans in the stands, you wind up sitting with them.” Gene Stallings

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Guys, doing my best Strother Martin impression, “What we have here is failure to communicate.”

I don’t think anybody is saying that Saban makes decisions based on what is posted in message boards. But fan sentiment is a significant part of the program, and has a LOT of influence over fundraising. Plus, it can influence recruits.

Even if you believe Saban is completely ignorant of what’s said on message boards (I don’t think he is, but apparently some think it’s laughable that he wouldn’t be) — you have to know that 17-18 year old recruits do read message boards, and can be influenced by them.

Saban doesn’t take votes from anybody, much less fans, on program-related decisions. But if you think he doesn’t know what fan sentiment is, you’re saying he’s bat-blind to a significant influence on multiple facets of his program.

And no, I don’t think Saban spends time worth at least $2,300 an hour ($10M / (365 x 12)) scouring TF or other boards.

So I think he knows the gist of fan sentiment, but doesn’t do the research himself….which means I think he pays someone else to do it.

 

[Lucky Jack]

Reckon they're paying attention to the "It costs too much to go to the games" thread?

Definitely not.

 

[Lucky Jack]

So I think he knows the gist of fan sentiment, but doesn’t do the research himself

There's no way he can't.

….which means I think he pays someone else to do it.

He doesn't pay anyone to do it, [FILL IN THE BLANK] news/sports media does it.

 

[BadgerTidefan]

And no, I don’t think Saban spends time worth at least $2,300 an hour ($10M / (365 x 12)) scouring TF or other boards.

So I think he knows the gist of fan sentiment, but doesn’t do the research himself….which means I think he pays someone else to do it.

I bet Ms Terry keeps up with it very well without being asked to by anyone.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I bet Ms Terry keeps up with it very well.

That’s a possibility hadn’t considered, but you might be right.

 

[CajunCrimson]

He doesn’t need to satisfy the fans at this stage of his tenure here. Especially since it’s only the 10% with the biggest mouths who are upset along with the regional sports media looking to fill their next column.

Bama fans complaining about their coordinators (in the eyes of fans of other teams) is akin to an episode of any housewives show, with the ladies upset because Lisa left the party early and she didn’t tell Karen “bye”

 

[RammerJammer14]

He doesn’t need to satisfy the fans at this stage of his tenure here. Especially since it’s only the 10% with the biggest mouths who are upset along with the regional sports media looking to fill their next column.

Bama fans complaining about their coordinators (in the eyes of fans of other teams) is akin to an episode of any housewives show, with the ladies upset because Lisa left the party early and she didn’t tell Karen “bye”

I mean, that’s pretty rude

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I bet Ms Terry keeps up with it very well without being asked to by anyone.

Ok, which of you guys is really Ms. Terry?

 

[CoolBreeze]

You think Nick is working today?

 

[CoolBreeze]

“If you listen to the fans in the stands, you wind up sitting with them.” Gene Stallings

“Great leaders are not always popular.”
― Nick Saban, How Good Do You Want to Be?: A Champion's Tips on How to Lead and Succeed at Work and in Life

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I’d like to see some of you folks saying some of these things to Coach Saban’s face…..lol

I'd have no problem asking him why PG is the coordinator...........

 

[99ALUM]

I'd have no problem asking him why PG is the coordinator...........

The tough questions need to be asked of Coach , when they are justified.

 

[BearFoot]

I'd have no problem asking him why PG is the coordinator...........

I’d enjoy being there when you asked him…
…because I love watching Coach respond to people who ask him questions like this in the question/answer sessions that he’s required to take part in 🫣

 

[BamaInBham]

As detailed as CNS is it wouldn't surprise me if a work-study student isn't assigned with reading internet chatter. Now how that info might trickle up to CNS would be interesting to know, if so.

But I guess what is bothersome is that some of the weaknesses that are discussed here should be as obvious as the nose on CNS's face.

I’m sure he has someone to monitor public opinion to some degree but certainly not for the purpose of input. You don’t really think that do you? He would be a fool.

It’s like Jim Mora, Sr said, “you think you know but you don’t know.” That’s the Alabama fan base and every other one. CNS is far from perfect, like every other person who is engaged in complex activity but some of the criticisms of CNS and his coaches have been ludicrous.

And the disrespect has been sickening. You can rest assured that Coach Bryant would object to the manner in which much of the criticism, even if warranted, has been leveled.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I’d enjoy being there when you asked him…
…because I love watching Coach respond to people who ask him questions like this in the question/answer sessions that he’s required to take part in 🫣

Sounds good.............

 

[lowend]

The tough questions need to be asked of Coach , when they are justified.

An administrator - or fan base - that's afraid to ask the questions is one that ends up with Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, etc. Achievement does not equal freedom from accountability.

 

[CajunCrimson]

An administrator - or fan base - that's afraid to ask the questions is one that ends up with Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, etc. Achievement does not equal freedom from accountability.

Comparing Coach to Bowden or Paterno is a bit ageist isn’t it? At 71, he’s light years ahead of me at 54.

Bowden and Paterno and even Coach Bryant were far less involved at this stage of their careers.

 

[BearFoot]

An administrator - or fan base - that's afraid to ask the questions is one that ends up with Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno, etc. Achievement does not equal freedom from accountability.

I respectfully disagree…with regard to fan base. You’re one move away from creating a breeding ground for self-entitled & meddlesome boosters…and will ultimately end up like Aubrun or Utx or Tx4&7

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I respectfully disagree…with regard to fan base. You’re one move away from creating a breeding ground for self-entitled & meddlesome boosters…and will ultimately end up like Aubrun or Utx or Tx4&7

You already have boosters like that................Saban has done a good job tamping that down, but should fans and boosters be content with a defense underperforming and just be satisfied that they almost got there? Do they have a right to be concerned?