Patterson has led TCU to at least 10 wins five times in the last seven years, including four 11-win campaigns in the past six seasons. No other coach in TCU history has more than two 10-win campaigns. In time the team would have tanked under Fran.
Who would you target as the next ND coach if you were Jack Swarbrick?
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Patterson has led TCU to at least 10 wins five times in the last seven years, including four 11-win campaigns in the past six seasons. No other coach in TCU history has more than two 10-win campaigns. In time the team would have tanked under Fran.
I would go after Brian Kelly. He is a proven winner and has won everywhere he has been. He has a very impressive resume and is probally the next Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. Notre Dame would excel under his leadership.
Franchione only won 10 games at TCU once, Patterson has been coaching at TCU for 8 years now as HC and has won 10 or more games 6 of those years. I give more props to Patterson than Fran but I don't see Patterson as a ND man.
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If I were ND I would not even consider Bob Stoops. He has not won a Bowl game in years and has squandered as much top tier talent as Les Miles has.
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1. Lou Holtz
2. Fat Phil
3. Tommy Tuberville
I hate Notre Dame and I wish they would keep Charlie another year. I don't want them to succeed. I like them just the way they are, .500.:BigA:
2. Fat Phil
3. Tommy Tuberville
I hate Notre Dame and I wish they would keep Charlie another year. I don't want them to succeed. I like them just the way they are, .500.:BigA:
I think they go after Kelly but if they were targeting the BEST coaches they would be in order:
1. Urban Meyer (only due to being younger than Coach Saban)
2. Nick Saban (in my heart he is the best college coach, not being a homer either)
3. All the others.
1. Urban Meyer (only due to being younger than Coach Saban)
2. Nick Saban (in my heart he is the best college coach, not being a homer either)
3. All the others.
Patterson was probably one of two main reasons Francheesy was winning 10 games a year (he was their DC).
Swarbrick just got hired not too long ago.. Kevin White was the ND AD when they extended Weis's contract.. he bolted for Duke.
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Fixed it.
I think ND will have to make an extremely enticing offer to get Harbaugh out of Palo Alto, and I'm not sure they will open the vaults for a coach who lacks hardware. He seems to absolutely love it out here and the kids he coaches. For instance, every home game has a different 30 second skit involving Harbaugh and Toby, which are actually quite amusing. He actively props other sports at the school and is enamored by the entire student body. I don't know the guy personally, but it seems that he might like this situation far more than a pressure cooker job like ND.
Of course, for the right paycheck anything is possible. Stanford has the money to keep him, but I'm pretty sure their $1.25M/year extension he just signed is the best offer he'll be getting from them. Granted, that income is about average for Palo Alto, but the dude is hardly strapped for cash.
I'm all for ND hiring Chucky.. because I think it would be a mistake of epic proportions.. follow an NFL guy with another NFL guy? Still though he's one of the most popular names among fans up here. ND is in a similar situation that we were after Shula got the axe... they need a proven college head coach.
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I see CNS name mentioned several times in this thread. There is no way ND even courts CNS for a few reasons. First, even though they have deep pockets, they owe Weis a fortune on his buyout. Couple that with the fact that they would have to far exceed anything Alabama can spend (which is alot) to keep him. Second, CNS would never leave HIS program and HIS players before "the process" is complete. This is not Fran. CNS is a man of high integrity. Finally, CNS has total control of the most prestigious program in college football. We match or exceed anything ND has in terms of facilities, recruiting, and tradition. It would be a lateral or backward move. ND is no longer the high profile job many remember. This is a program who is barely over .500 since Lou Holtz left. They would be lucky to have Brian Kelly.
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Somewhere, LSU and Dolphins fans are laughing.
I don't at all think that Saban leaves, but make no mistake that ND could very easily cough up more money than Alabama (or Florida) if they were dead set on getting one of the two best coaches. I don't think they will, and if they did pull out the blank check it would be aimed at Urban first. Just remember when claiming that ND is not a prestigious job that you echo what every fan around the country said about us before we snagged Saban. It will always be one of the premiere jobs in CFB.
I don't see CNS leaving for many reasons, not the least of which is that it would be hard/impossible for recruits to believe anything he said. He would get hammered in recruiting by other coaches...and ND is getting hammered enough as it is. That being said, the legacy you can leave at ND is much higher than at UF. Sorry Gators, but that's the way it is...it takes decades(plural noun) to build a legacy, not just a good decade or two. I could see CUM leaving UF simply for that reason -- especially since TT will be gone. Is that a probability -- no, but it is a possibility -- about 2/10.
My guess -- either Brian Kelly for reasons stated in an earlier post (Midwest, etc.) as he is the hottest candidate around; or Jim Harbaugh -- -provided he gives up the dream of ever coaching UM. Both are really excellent candidates and bring a lot of credibility to the table.
Then, CTT is sitting in Auburn waiting beside the phone--unless he is out duck hunting.
My guess -- either Brian Kelly for reasons stated in an earlier post (Midwest, etc.) as he is the hottest candidate around; or Jim Harbaugh -- -provided he gives up the dream of ever coaching UM. Both are really excellent candidates and bring a lot of credibility to the table.
Then, CTT is sitting in Auburn waiting beside the phone--unless he is out duck hunting.
They won a bowl last year.. against Hawaii but it did break the streak. As much as people want to believe Saban is a greedy jerk it's not true he won't even entertain the idea of ND and even if he was torn I don't think it would come down to a bidding war.. why does CNS need more money? lol And also I hate ND and would love for them to slip permanently into mediocrity they will always be one of the top jobs in college football.
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A few points:
1. Anyone who thinks that Notre Dame isn't one of the elite few coaching jobs in the country just doesn't understand the history and tradition of college football.
2. Urban Meyer was already offered the Notre Dame job, and turned them down. There is little reason to think that they'd offer him again, only to have him humiliate them with a second jilting. ND takes their image very seriously.
3. They probably learned their lesson last time and won't fire Weis until his replacement has already "agreed in principal" to take the job.
4. Whoever they get will be expected to win big and win early. If you think Bama is a pressure cooker, you watch the expectations put on Weis' successor.
1. Anyone who thinks that Notre Dame isn't one of the elite few coaching jobs in the country just doesn't understand the history and tradition of college football.
2. Urban Meyer was already offered the Notre Dame job, and turned them down. There is little reason to think that they'd offer him again, only to have him humiliate them with a second jilting. ND takes their image very seriously.
3. They probably learned their lesson last time and won't fire Weis until his replacement has already "agreed in principal" to take the job.
4. Whoever they get will be expected to win big and win early. If you think Bama is a pressure cooker, you watch the expectations put on Weis' successor.
I think they'll make a run at CUM but end up with Brian Kelly, who would be a massive upgrade over Weis, at least from a coaching standpoint. :redface:
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