My family from missouri predicts a 6-2 conference record their 1st year in the sec!

[RTR91]

As bad as the sec east will be next year?? I think most college experts are predicting vast improvement from florida, tennessee,SC, and vandy.
The defenses coupled with the physicality of the sec will prove to much for the show me state. They ain't in KANSAS no more TOTO, it's going to be a hard row to hoe in the sec for several years.

I'm not sure that many people are saying that.

I've said for a while that Mizzou is entering the East a very good time. The East is up for grabs. Outside of Georgia, who is a dominant team in the East.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I have to disagree. Most of those teams will improve with the exception of USC. It's going to be hard for them to improve on a 10-2 or even an 11-2 record (depending on their bowl game). The rest of the teams you mentioned could win 2 or 3 more games each next year but that puts them at 8-4 or 9-3 which is a mediocre record. But I guess if the "experts" say it we must take it as truth. Mizzou is not a horrible team, and I'm not saying they are going to win the East next year. I'm just saying it is very possible (and even likely) for the SEC East to be about the same next year as it is this year. Mizzou is a mediocre team that fits in nicely with a mediocre division.

That's "mediocre" by our standards, the SEC standards. But winning 8-9 games in the SEC means that though you're a "mediocre" team in the SEC. You're definitely not a "mediocre" team overall. Miss St proved that last season in their bowl game against Meeeechigan. Put up 50+ pts.

Missouri went 7-5 in the Big 12 so though they are not a pitiful team. They definitely won't be the prize hawg of the "mediocre" teams they'll be competing against in the east.

 

[rolltide_21]

I'm not sure that many people are saying that.

I've said for a while that Mizzou is entering the East a very good time. The East is up for grabs. Outside of Georgia, who is a dominant team in the East.

^^^This. I agree completely. I don't buy into the SEC east being as strong as they are portrayed. The East champion lost to Boise St. which my most people in the SEC is looked at as a mediocre or at best a pretty good team (which I agree with). As far as USC is concerned, they lost to Auburn this year. They are not a good team. The improvement of USC doesnt have as much to do with USC being better (although I agree they are better than in the past. Not hard to do given their history in the SEC) as much as it does with UGA, UF, and UT being down in 2010 and UF and UT being down in 2011. Also, no one is declaring that Mizzou is going to win the division but they are good enough to have a .500 to winning record in SEC play next year.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

I think what is going to "get them" is when they find out that even the "bad" teams in the SEC aren't easy wins from a physicality standpoint. The week in, week out wear and tear of of facing physically oriented defenses is much different than facing Big 12-2 defenses.

I see Mo. as a mid pack team. Victories over KY, and Vandy,
but they will have to earn them.
TN & FL & TAMU are iffy, USCe & GA are probably losses.
Alabama is a loss.

For Mo. to finish with a 6-2 SEC record next year, they are gonna have to be better than they were this year.
Someone's already brought up the fact that the SEC is a grind
and SEC Defenses will wear on you.

Anyone can get up for one game, but can they do it all season?
We will see.

 

[Timberline Tide]

 

[CHATTBRIT]

are they dislexic?

I believe they have dyscalculia

 

[BamaJama17]

I would say 4-4 at best.

 

[BAMA1979]

With their only losses coming against alabama and georgia.
I have told them all, and have proclaimed from the start, that missouri will struggle mightily in football in the sec. Being a middle of the pack team in the big 12 will result in a bottom of the barrel team for the sec. I honestly see them going 2 and 6, even a possible 1 and 7 to start their 1st year in conference play. I would pick sc,florida,or even vandy over missouri on a regular basis ANY DAY. We play a different brand of football in the sec, and the the tigers will soon see exactly what I mean ,when I say that.


I was wondering everyones takes about Missouri going 6-2, in 2012

On a brighter note I see them competing immediately in golf, soccer,basketball, and baseball.

In that case they better have an incredible golf program.

 

[BEATtutorsee]

I would be shocked if they won 6 league games their first year. I just don't see it happening. aTm has a better chance at that than they do and I don't see even them doing it.

 

[mittman]

I believe they have dyscalculia

Had to look that one up :smile:

 

[CrimsonCrusade]

1-7. I'm feeling generous.

 

[PacadermaTideUs]

I see 3-5.

Wins
Vandy
Kentucky

Losses
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Florida

Toss-Up
Tennessee
Texas A&M

 

[bamadp]

6-2 is very optimistic.
5-3 would be a good year.
4-4 is possible.
3-5 is more probable.

Mizzou had best beef up their defense or it'll be a long year.

 

[MizzouFaninBama]

I would be shocked if they won 6 league games their first year. I just don't see it happening. aTm has a better chance at that than they do and I don't see even them doing it.

Not sure how you consider A&M to have a better chance than us? We are 5-1 against A&M in our last 6, including back-to-back wins in College Station in 2010 and 2011. Now A&M is going through yet another coaching move and has to replace Tannyhill with an unproven QB and lose their best WR, Jeff Fuller. Meanwhile, we return James Franklin, who will immediately be a top 3 QB in the SEC. Our strengths next year will be at QB and WR. Offensive line is a question mark, we graduate 3, the potential is there to reload, but need to see it happen. We may struggle at RB a bit. We lost our 1st all big 12 RB, Henry Josey, a guy with blazing speed, to a triple tear knee injury. He is out for 2012 and maybe for good.

Defense does well against the run, suffers against the pass. We are as good on the interior line and DE next year as anybody. Sheldon Richardson, 6'1" 310lb will anchor the front. He has 4.7 40 speed and freakish athleticism, was the 4th best prospect according to rivals coming out of high school in 2009 and is a certain 1st rd draft pick. We have some solid LBs that are better equipped to defend the run than the pass. Our secondary was terrible this year, should be alittle better next year. Thankfully, we won't see the pass happy Big 12 offenses anymore.

I think we are looking at 5-3 in conference but think the 4-4 predictions are reasonable. We will beat someone we shouldn't (I predict Georgia) and lose to someone we shouldn't (Kentucky or Vandy). I do not think either extreme is likely to occur (i.e. 7-1 or 1-7).

Can't wait for the season to get here!

 

[mulletover]

..... Meanwhile, we return James Franklin, who will immediately be a top 3 QB in the SEC. Our strengths next year will be at QB and WR. Offensive line is a question mark, we graduate 3, the potential is there to reload, but need to see it happen. We may struggle at RB a bit. We lost our 1st all big 12 RB, Henry Josey, a guy with blazing speed, to a triple tear knee injury. He is out for 2012 and maybe for good........

I agree that Missouri should fair better in year 1 than aTm. A&M's in the tougher division. To me, one thing that sticks out about Missouri is the lack of a power running game. Without the ability to run the ball and control TOP they'll struggle against SEC opponents. A questionable OL doesn't help against the bigger, faster pass rushers they'll face in conference play either.

 

[twofbyc]

I agree but something has happened to the SEC East over the past few years. There is a coaching vacuum that has occurred, frankly, it started with Fulmer's downfall. Then Richt lost his way, and now Florida is a shambles of their former selves. While Kentucky and Vanderbilt play tough most years, they're not as talented as Missouri is. South Carolina has made strides under Spurrier, but is that because of the three powers of the East falling?

I'll say that Missouri will lose to Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina for sure. But they can win all the other conference games on their schedule, with the possibility of losing to Florida. Their ceiling is 6-2, IMO.

Florida had a good d this year, and will again next year. I think 4-4 is the best they can hope for, and I don't think they beat Vandy.

 

[graydogg85]

IMO, Missouri is a better program than a lot of folks are giving them credit for. In the last five seasons, their record is 48-19 and they've won 10+ games three times. They were very competitive and kept it close this season in four of their five losses (the exception being a pantsing by Oklahoma State), and they had a young team to boot. Their sophomore QB threw for 2,800 yards this year and ran for another 900+. They are a very good rushing team (244 ypg, good for 10th nationally) and they finished 4th in the Big XII in total defense. The schedule sets up pretty favorably for them in 2012, with the toughest games being played in Columbia.

6-2 might be optimistic but it's not outside of the realm of possibility. That would probably assume a loss to Alabama and either UGA or USC. I think 5-3 or 4-4 is more likely, depending on how Florida turns out. Tennessee needs to improve considerably to beat Missouri, and I'm not sure there's evidence of that much improvement. Crazy as it sounds, Mizzou might be a dark-horse contender in the Eastern Division in their first season.

Texas A&M has a much tougher road to hoe, and IMO will struggle to get to .500.

 

[cuda.1973]

So..............they are going to improve their record, while switching to a tougher conference. What is wrong with this picture?

 

[CraiginKC]

I would be shocked if they won 6 league games their first year. I just don't see it happening. aTm has a better chance at that than they do and I don't see even them doing it.

As a Mizzou fan, I would also be surprised if we won 6 games in the SEC next year. But what I don't get are the frequent comments from some on this board who seem to think Texas A&M is the stronger team coming into the SEC. Mizzou's beat them three times in a row, and we'll beat them again next year. A&M has been a thoroughly unimpressive program for a decade. I've got to assume that the A&M love is coming from folks who haven't paid much attention.

 

[CraiginKC]

I'm a Mizzou fan, and I would agree that 6-2 is wishful thinking. But if Mizzou's future in the SEC looks anything like their past, a more likely scenario is that Missouri will upset someone (not Alabama), like Georgia or Florida, but then lose unexpectedly to someone like Kentucky of Vandy.

If I were to bet (and I learned never to bet on Mizzou games a long time ago), I feel confident that Missouri should beat Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, and Texas A&M (for the record, a lot of folks on this board seem to think, for some reason, that A&M is the stronger program of the two. They're not. A&M has been underperforming for about a decade now. Mizzou's beaten them the last three times we played them, and I don't think they'll be better next year than this one with their coaching transition). So 4-4 is where I'd put us, with a slight chance of pulling off an upset in there to bring us to 5-3, which would be a great start, in my book. But 5-3 is the ceiling.

6-2 is definitely wishful thinking. As is, by the way, the thinking of those who imagine that the magic of the SEC is so powerful that we'll struggle to get past teams like Vanderbilt and Kentucky on a regular basis.

This is going to be a long off-season because Missouri fans can't wait to get started in the SEC. And being a native of Columbia, MO, I'll be sure to post a list of good places to eat in advance of the Alabama game. We're looking forward to hosting you!