News Article: When will "pit bull denial" stop?

[JDCrimson]

Just remember in the eyes of the law there is no "one free bit rule". If your boxer bites someone you will be held strictly liable even if she has never bitten any before.

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[92tide]

Re: Pit bulls kill jogger – police

I'm a runner and if I know that a road has pit bulls I will not even think about going that direction. They are very aggressive toward runners. Other breeds & breed mixes not so much.


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c'mon, that just means you found a good route for speed work

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Just remember in the eyes of the law there is no "one free bit rule". If your boxer bites someone you will be held strictly liable even if she has never bitten any before.

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That's true under the statute (3-6-1.Code of Alabama, 1975), although the owner can still plead ignorance of viciousness to mitigate damages to out of pocket expenses. That statute only applies to bites on the property of the owner (or with the victim just having left the property with the dog in hot pursuit). It's mostly to protect mail carriers, etc. However, for general liability, the principles of negligence apply and in Alabama, the pit bull fanciers notwithstanding, The Court of Civil Appeals has held that the breed has a propensity for viciousness and owners are held to be aware of that, else they are negligent (and liable) - Edgar v. Riley, 725 So.2d 982 (Ala.Civ.App. 1998)...

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I was out riding my bike the other day and passed by two people on of which had a pitbull. if that guy had not had a strong grip on the leash you would now be reading about an Atlanta man being mauled to death by a pitbull. this pyscho dog leaped at me growling and showing teeth and all I did was ride by in the road and was still trying to get at me after I was far away (I could hear it).

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I have heard that cockers are supposedly tempermental was well, but my family has owned 2 and neither were bad animals. The first was female and blind and was brought up around kids and was a sweet lovable dog. The second followed my grandmother's dog home and wouldn't leave so my mom took him. He just loved to be loved. sweet dog and he appeared to have been abused (this dog would run and hide anytime someone tried to sweep the floor and even wimper. he was scrawny when we got him even though my grandparents had fed him. even the vet told us the cockers tend to be tempermental dogs but these two were not.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I have heard that cockers are supposedly tempermental was well, but my family has owned 2 and neither were bad animals. The first was female and blind and was brought up around kids and was a sweet lovable dog. The second followed my grandmother's dog home and wouldn't leave so my mom took him. He just loved to be loved. sweet dog and he appeared to have been abused (this dog would run and hide anytime someone tried to sweep the floor and even wimper. he was scrawny when we got him even though my grandparents had fed him. even the vet told us the cockers tend to be tempermental dogs but these two were not.

Cockers didn't use to be temperamental. Popularity did them in, as with so many other breeds. When a breed gets popular, breeders start breeding for physical characteristics. (Can't blame them - that's where the money is.) Dogs which have undesirable psychological traits tend to get bred anyway, if they look "right." Also, marginal and dishonest breeders hop into the market with dogs which should never have been bred (if not outright put down). I'm afraid that's what's happened with the pit bulls and their many crosses. Also, with the PBs, some were bred for completely inappropriate characteristics for a family pet. I can remember when cockers were the most popular breed in America...

 

[banjeaux]

Police use Taser on grieving father mourning son's death

http://www.wtoc.com/story/22082130/police-taser-grieving-father-mourning-sons-death

ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA)

A father, torn apart by grief over the death of his two-year-old son, was subdued with a Taser by police.

The Fulton County Medical Examiner's Office confirmed that the boy suffered sharp- and blunt-force trauma to the head and neck, consistent with a dog attack.

It happened at the scene of gruesome pit bull attack in south Fulton County.

Police said they followed the right procedures.

They said the father was desperately trying to get into his home to see his son.

Police said they asked him stay back, but he refused, so they used a Taser on him.

The father was beside himself with grief after learning the family pit bull mauled his little boy inside his own home on Sierra Trail.

 

[TideMan09]

I have a Boxer named "Annie"..She as gentle & as loving of a dog as I've ever seen..She's awesome..She makes a great companion..Especially when I don't feel well(which is a lot here lately)..She knows when I don't feel good & won't leave my side when she senses that..My life wouldn't feel right without her..

And here's a pic of my Boxer "Annie"..She's a pretty & gentle dog..Only time I've seen her growl at anybody..Was when my oldest daughter brought the boy she's dating by the house one day..She's very protective of my 2 girls..She didn't like that boy being close to her..Like her daddy doesn't either..LOL

 

[jthomas666]

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BETHANY, Okla. —A mother and child attacked by a man posing as a UPS driver on Friday were saved by the family's pit bull. It happened in a neighborhood near Lake Overholser.

The man was holding a package when the woman opened her front door and sprayed her and her infant son with pepper spray.

The family dog, Louie, sprang into action when the woman cried out, and chased the man from the house.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

And here's a pic of my Boxer "Annie"..She's a pretty & gentle dog..Only time I've seen her growl at anybody..Was when my oldest daughter brought the boy she's dating by the house one day..She's very protective of my 2 girls..She didn't like that boy being close to her..Like her daddy doesn't either..LOL

I don't think that boxers are a breed of which the the Alabama courts require an owner to be aware of vicious tendencies. AFAIK, those decisions are only involving pitbulls. It would be interesting if the courts started having to decide which breeds that covered...

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

I don't think that boxers are a breed of which the the Alabama courts require an owner to be aware of vicious tendencies. AFAIK, those decisions are only involving pitbulls. It would be interesting if the courts started having to decide which breeds that covered...

Boxers are great dogs. That's all I've ever had so I'm biased. They are great family dogs...full of energy but love to be around people.

 

[TideMan09]

I don't think that boxers are a breed of which the the Alabama courts require an owner to be aware of vicious tendencies. AFAIK, those decisions are only involving pitbulls. It would be interesting if the courts started having to decide which breeds that covered...

Just out of curiosity..All you hear about are Pit Bull attacks in the news..Are Boxers a breed known to attack humans viciously..

 

[TideMan09]

Boxers are great dogs. That's all I've ever had so I'm biased. They are great family dogs...full of energy but love to be around people.

Yup..Annie has been the best dog I've ever had..Does your Boxer freak out when storms come up..Mine absolutely hates it when she hears thunder..She'll start shaking really bad..Makes me feel bad for her..

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Just out of curiosity..All you hear about are Pit Bull attacks in the news..Are Boxers a breed known to attack humans viciously..

The appellate courts haven't named them...

 

[BamaFlum]

Just out of curiosity..All you hear about are Pit Bull attacks in the news..Are Boxers a breed known to attack humans viciously..

You got me thinking. Is the media selective on dog attack stories? I would like to see a good study on the percentage of attacks that cause serious injury for all dogs compared to pit bull types.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

You got me thinking. Is the media selective on dog attack stories? I would like to see a good study on the percentage of attacks that cause serious injury for all dogs compared to pit bull types.

I think all vicious attacks, particularly on kids, get reported. However, if it's a pit bull, that's sure to get mentioned, whereas another breed might not...

 

[BamaFlum]

I think all vicious attacks, particularly on kids, get reported. However, if it's a pit bull, that's sure to get mentioned, whereas another breed might not...

That's what I mean. Another breed would just be "a dog attack." While a the other goes "child mauled by an apparent pit bull."

 

[TIDE-HSV]

That's what I mean. Another breed would just be "a dog attack." While a the other goes "child mauled by an apparent pit bull."

Well, to be fair, they are a big, powerful dog which was originally bred for fighting. German Shepherds and Dobermans had their moments in the news also...

 

[BamaFlum]

Well, to be fair, they are a big, powerful dog which was originally bred for fighting. German Shepherds and Dobermans had their moments in the news also...

Exactly, but the Dobie and Shepherd don't have the same media stigma.

I know pit bulls can be dangerous. However, any dog can be vicious.

Earl, being in the legal field, what do you honestly feel should be done about pit bull breeds?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Exactly, but the Dobie and Shepherd don't have the same media stigma.

I know pit bulls can be dangerous. However, any dog can be vicious.

Earl, being in the legal field, what do you honestly feel should be done about pit bull breeds?

Believe it or not, Dobermanns and, to a lesser degree, Shepherds once did have some stigma. Dobermanns were bred in record time by a German named Karl Dobermann and the early ones did have unstable temperaments because they were largely bred for physical characteristics. I mentioned earlier that cockers became unstable because everybody and his brother started breeding them. They were originally a hunting dog in England. Likewise, shepherds were working dogs, bred big and strong to protect their sheep against wolves and other predators. Of course, it was easy to convert them to guard dogs. When I was a kid, a lot of people were frightened of shepherds, just as they are with pit bulls now. In the case of both breeds, over time, and with the popularity waning, the temperamental ones were bred out or put down and the breeds stabilized. We can hope the same happens with the pit bulls.

I suppose I don't have a problem with what the courts have done so far. What it amounts to is a warning to owners that they have a big, powerful dog of a breed (or cross-breed) which has been known to cause serious damage in the past, and that, therefore, the court will take with a grain of salt any defense that the attack was completely unexpected. I can certainly see the other side of the argument and I can understand loyal owners defending their dogs...