Cop in MO kills unarmed black teen

[Displaced Bama Fan]

There are many who profit, one way or the other, from the status quo...

And in the end isn't it all about money and control?

 

[twofbyc]

SIAP, but is this bogus or believable?

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...tail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/

 

[Bazza]

I'd like to know if was he shot in the front or back....first.

The report should be coming out very soon.

That will tell us what happened more than anything I would think.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I'd like to know if was he shot in the front or back....first.

Actually, any shots to the back would be pretty damning.

 

[twofbyc]

The only problem I see is, if the report contradicts eyewitnesses (based on what was in the link I posted and tox reports), it seems like the 'hood is predisposed to accept only one conclusion, and just like in the OJ case, threaten with violence if they don't get what they want. I would like to see the truth come out, but I am not at all sure that is what some want (on either side).

 

[PacadermaTideUs]

SIAP, but is this bogus or believable?

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...tail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/

I believe that the transcript of the overheard conversation is accurate and that what the witness described was some sort of struggle inside the police vehicle, followed by a briefly fleeing and then charging Michael Brown. Whether or not that account is accurate is another question altogether. For what it's worth, I saw this same account from a different source (don't remember where - maybe the police report?) a couple of days ago.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Actually, any shots to the back would be pretty damning.

This is probably true, although people who have been shot sometimes spin or twist, causing a back POE, particularly in rapid fire. If this cop goes on trial, it'll be rough because the "witnesses" are quite likely to have known the victim (other than the accomplice to the robbery, who was with him)...

 

[Bazza]

Actually, any shots to the back would be pretty damning.

Yup...I agree - I should have stated it as just "shot(s) in his back" - but as Earle pointed out sometimes shooting victims twirl around and in rapid fire scenarios - POE's are varied.

I'm thinking we should know pretty soon - maybe by tomorrow - when the investigation is completed and we get some kind of press release.

 

[cuda.1973]

the government is not the enemy. this is about a local police force that appears to be somewhat out of control as are many local police forces that have effectively been militarized.

Who do you think is militarizing them?

 

[cuda.1973]

true, but going for a cops gun is.

I have not talked to any of my police buddies about this situation. They are trained and drilled to react (not think) certain ways in certain situations. Keep in mind all of my buddies are roughly my generation (50s/60s-ish), so they became policemen before the local PDs turned into the SA. (Hitler Brown Shirts)

None of us know the facts. If the victim did go for the officer's gun, I am not surprised by the outcome. Hopefully, the facts will come out, without either side pulling a fast one on us. I have little faith that will actually happen.

 

[cuda.1973]

Southern White and Southern Black cultures (and most Northern Black cultures retain a distinctive Southern flavor) have an awful lot of personality traits in common. We live large, are highly emotional, and love excess. As a result, we make great musicians, tell interesting stories, cook decadent foods, and are known - both male and female - for our ability to charm the pants off anything that walks.

On the flip side, we also get super defensive, say stupid things, routinely embarrass ourselves in front of cameras, and are prone to getting utterly manhandled by politicians and rabble rousers. It's just us, y'all. We can't help it.

Gee, this sounds a lot like us Italians. I'm sure the Irish Catholics would also lay claim to this sort of behavior.

"Fuhgeddabadet."

 

[selmaborntidefan]

The Empty Suit has condemned the cops and so has the shill of a governor.

Has either of the two dolts even once condemned the looters - or do they figure they'll need those votes in November as part of their natural constituency?

Jay Nixon has so far condemned:

1) Release of the robbery video

2) The Ferguson police chief

Governor, you're more than welcome to send your own cops home (since, you know, they're so emotional and unstable). Maybe just walk into Ferguson all by yourself - that'll work, I'm sure.

 

[Gr8hope]

Violence is recurring tonight and the prelim autopsy report was released:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html
A private, family-requested autopsy shows that Michael Brown was shot at least six times — twice in the head — with all of the bullets striking him in the front.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Violence is recurring tonight and the prelim autopsy report was released:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html
A private, family-requested autopsy shows that Michael Brown was shot at least six times — twice in the head — with all of the bullets striking him in the front.

The last two shots in the head, after four shots in the right arm, all from the front. That sounds like it goes with the story of him charging the cop.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Yah, the initial autopsy doesn't follow the 'running away' narrative we've heard to this point...

 

[CoachJeff]

It's interesting that people take the autopsy results in vastly different ways. The left wing types day it's proof he was shot while trying to surrender while others say it's proof witnessss were lying about him being shot in the back.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

It's interesting that people take the autopsy results in vastly different ways. The left wing types day it's proof he was shot while trying to surrender while others say it's proof witnessss were lying about him being shot in the back.

The conflicts make it more unlikely the officer will be prosecuted...

 

[PacadermaTideUs]

It's interesting that people take the autopsy results in vastly different ways. The left wing types day it's proof he was shot while trying to surrender while others say it's proof witnessss were lying about him being shot in the back.

Well, you know, it's just another piece to the puzzle - not conclusive in any way. The autopsy doesn't show that Brown was charging. It also doesn't show that Brown was surrendering. What is does show is that the story presented by Brown's friend is at least in some ways inaccurate.

 

[stlimprov]

I get the feeling that there are different folks in command at different points, and that they aren't very consistent in how they are looking at policing this. My guess is there's some tension behind the scenes.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

I wonder if we're gonna hear any appeals to "settled science" from the usual suspects?

I forgot. You don't bring facts to sociological arguments about race.

I understand this is not conclusive any more than a shot in the back would be. But it does provide supporting evidence of the cop's version over the witness version.