How would Bama have fared against the Ducks?

I think Oregon would hang 60 on us or OSU. They might give up some scores, but I think they win by 30 over either team.
 
Alabama fans, my wife included, seemed to believe that Alabama would steam-roll the Buckeyes. The thought was that Alabama was the best team in the country and that OSU was lucky to even get into the field of four given the weakness of the conference. To take that a step further - Alabama, as the best team in the SEC (the best conference in college football) must be the best team in college football. And Ohio State, the best team in the B1G (one of the weakest conferences in college football), was simply not very good. They were only in because of their weak schedule. Translation - Alabama wins BIG if they play well, but still wins a tight game if they don't.

What you think you learned - since Ohio State was a weak team (in your opinion) and they beat Alabama, Alabama must also be a weak team and they would have no chance against a "great" team like Oregon. What I learned was different. I learned that the Buckeyes are better than we thought they were. My opinion of Alabama was not diminished in the game, but my opinion of OSU went up. My opinion of Oregon did not change as I expected them to expose FSU (and they did).

I still do not know how good Oregon is. We will find out in a week. But I still feel that Alabama had the most talented team in the playoffs, and that you would probably beat any team if you were still playing next week - including us.

These teams are comprised of players, and the players are human beings. They have good days and bad days, just like the rest of us. This is true in every sport, at every level of competition. We were the better team when we played last week. I am very happy about that. But I am not confused by it. That does not make us the better team over-all.

I like our chances against Oregon, just as I would like your chances against Oregon. We are both bigger, stronger and faster than they are across the board. As I said, I could be wrong, but until I see it evidenced on the field, I remain ever the optimist.
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

I'll answer this when I see how Ohio State does against them. Basically...

If Ohio State beats them by 2 scores or more, yeah we would have beaten the Ducks. Handily.

If Oregon wipes the floor with Ohio State, ain't nobody beating the Ducks.

Still, if you think about it, the pressure is on the Ducks. When the pressure is on, they don't always seem to do so well. Not a knock on them. They're still the best team so far.
 
Alabama fans, my wife included, seemed to believe that Alabama would steam-roll the Buckeyes. The thought was that Alabama was the best team in the country and that OSU was lucky to even get into the field of four given the weakness of the conference. To take that a step further - Alabama, as the best team in the SEC (the best conference in college football) must be the best team in college football. And Ohio State, the best team in the B1G (one of the weakest conferences in college football), was simply not very good. They were only in because of their weak schedule. Translation - Alabama wins BIG if they play well, but still wins a tight game if they don't.

What you think you learned - since Ohio State was a weak team (in your opinion) and they beat Alabama, Alabama must also be a weak team and they would have no chance against a "great" team like Oregon. What I learned was different. I learned that the Buckeyes are better than we thought they were. My opinion of Alabama was not diminished in the game, but my opinion of OSU went up. My opinion of Oregon did not change as I expected them to expose FSU (and they did).

I still do not know how good Oregon is. We will find out in a week. But I still feel that Alabama had the most talented team in the playoffs, and that you would probably beat any team if you were still playing next week - including us.

These teams are comprised of players, and the players are human beings. They have good days and bad days, just like the rest of us. This is true in every sport, at every level of competition. We were the better team when we played last week. I am very happy about that. But I am not confused by it. That does not make us the better team over-all.

I like our chances against Oregon, just as I would like your chances against Oregon. We are both bigger, stronger and faster than they are across the board. As I said, I could be wrong, but until I see it evidenced on the field, I remain ever the optimist.

Great post, B1GTide. Still, Ohio State proved like Alabama has proved in a few games this season, you don't have to be the best in a game, you just have to win. The Buckeyes made it happen. We did not. We can make excuses until the cows come home but it does not change the fact that we just didn't win. It happens and it doesn't necessarily mean you should scrap everything. I am certain that Bama will be in the playoff conversation next season. Some teams who did beat us and beat other good teams probably won't be.
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

I'll answer this when I see how Ohio State does against them. Basically...

If Ohio State beats them by 2 scores or more, yeah we would have beaten the Ducks. Handily.

If Oregon wipes the floor with Ohio State, ain't nobody beating the Ducks.


Still, if you think about it, the pressure is on the Ducks. When the pressure is on, they don't always seem to do so well. Not a knock on them. They're still the best team so far.

Game to game comparisons are fraught with problems. Many times A will beat B who will beat C who will beat A. The whole body of work needs to be considered. As B1GTide said above, "These teams are comprised of players, and the players are human beings. They have good days and bad days, just like the rest of us".
 
Alabama fans, my wife included, seemed to believe that Alabama would steam-roll the Buckeyes. The thought was that Alabama was the best team in the country and that OSU was lucky to even get into the field of four given the weakness of the conference. To take that a step further - Alabama, as the best team in the SEC (the best conference in college football) must be the best team in college football. And Ohio State, the best team in the B1G (one of the weakest conferences in college football), was simply not very good. They were only in because of their weak schedule. Translation - Alabama wins BIG if they play well, but still wins a tight game if they don't.

What you think you learned - since Ohio State was a weak team (in your opinion) and they beat Alabama, Alabama must also be a weak team and they would have no chance against a "great" team like Oregon. What I learned was different. I learned that the Buckeyes are better than we thought they were. My opinion of Alabama was not diminished in the game, but my opinion of OSU went up. My opinion of Oregon did not change as I expected them to expose FSU (and they did).

I still do not know how good Oregon is. We will find out in a week. But I still feel that Alabama had the most talented team in the playoffs, and that you would probably beat any team if you were still playing next week - including us.

These teams are comprised of players, and the players are human beings. They have good days and bad days, just like the rest of us. This is true in every sport, at every level of competition. We were the better team when we played last week. I am very happy about that. But I am not confused by it. That does not make us the better team over-all.

I like our chances against Oregon, just as I would like your chances against Oregon. We are both bigger, stronger and faster than they are across the board. As I said, I could be wrong, but until I see it evidenced on the field, I remain ever the optimist.
Alabama has a very weak secondary. Consistent failure on 3rd and long is a recipe for a loss. I thought the best team won the other night and my opinion of Alabama diminished. Bama is still a really good team deserving of the playoffs, but if they replayed the Sugar Bowl I'd expect tOSU to win.
 
They would've put 50+ on us but I have no idea what we would've put on them. To be honest I wanted fsu I. The sugar bowl instead of OSU. I was more worried about OSU than fsu
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

Without question Alabama was one of the best teams in 2014, but the secondary turned out to be quite mediocre, and I suspect Oregon would have feasted on this. FSU was bigger / faster / stronger than Oregon yet they got whipped all over the field.
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

I'm not so sure about that. MIZZ is ranked 95th on total offense, so that wasn't a big challenge for our defense, but we gave up 428 yards to MSU, 630 to AU, and 537 to OSU. The biggest difference is that OSU is ranked 17th total defense, AU is ranked 64th and MSU is ranked 85th.

We gave up 1990 yards and 128 points (497.5 YPG and 32 PPG) to four top 25 offenses we faced this year (WVU, MSU, AU and OSU). Luckily for us, OSU is the only one that had a top 25 defense.

That is a hard fact to swallow, but it is a fact...

I wasn't referring to a "STAT" perspective, rather how we played our "emotional" game. The players didn't seem as in to the Sugar Bowl as they did the last 3 games of our regular season. ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING and we proved that on January 1. I agree with your stats, though, but that was not what I was referring to.
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

If Bama played up to its capability against Oregon, I think we would hang with them but probably still lose but it would be close well into the second half. We could run the ball on them (FSU did that without any problem) and keep Mariota off the field (and that's about all we could do to stop their offense). If we played the way we did against OSU we would lose by 21.

As for OSU against the Ducks... don't count out OSU. Oregon beat Michigan State by 19 at home but OSU beat Michigan State in East Lansing by a couple of TD's. Both games were close until well into the third quarter. Sure, OSU does not have Barrett at QB but the Ducks don't have their best DB. This is going to be an entertaining game and a close one, I think. OSU has a better coaching staff than Oregon and that will be the difference. OSU 42 - Ducks 38.
 
Alabama fans, my wife included, seemed to believe that Alabama would steam-roll the Buckeyes. The thought was that Alabama was the best team in the country and that OSU was lucky to even get into the field of four given the weakness of the conference. To take that a step further - Alabama, as the best team in the SEC (the best conference in college football) must be the best team in college football. And Ohio State, the best team in the B1G (one of the weakest conferences in college football), was simply not very good. They were only in because of their weak schedule. Translation - Alabama wins BIG if they play well, but still wins a tight game if they don't.

What you think you learned - since Ohio State was a weak team (in your opinion) and they beat Alabama, Alabama must also be a weak team and they would have no chance against a "great" team like Oregon. What I learned was different. I learned that the Buckeyes are better than we thought they were. My opinion of Alabama was not diminished in the game, but my opinion of OSU went up. My opinion of Oregon did not change as I expected them to expose FSU (and they did).

I still do not know how good Oregon is. We will find out in a week. But I still feel that Alabama had the most talented team in the playoffs, and that you would probably beat any team if you were still playing next week - including us.

These teams are comprised of players, and the players are human beings. They have good days and bad days, just like the rest of us. This is true in every sport, at every level of competition. We were the better team when we played last week. I am very happy about that. But I am not confused by it. That does not make us the better team over-all.

I like our chances against Oregon, just as I would like your chances against Oregon. We are both bigger, stronger and faster than they are across the board. As I said, I could be wrong, but until I see it evidenced on the field, I remain ever the optimist.

some of our fans would predict a 50 point bama win against the '85 bears.
 
Alabama has a very weak secondary. Consistent failure on 3rd and long is a recipe for a loss. I thought the best team won the other night and my opinion of Alabama diminished. Bama is still a really good team deserving of the playoffs, but if they replayed the Sugar Bowl I'd expect tOSU to win.

we were outcoached and outplayed...something that hasn't happened often under saban and it's just a tough pill to swallow.

it's strange too, because over the season as a whole, i think saban and company did their best coaching job at the capstone.
 
we were outcoached and outplayed...something that hasn't happened often under saban and it's just a tough pill to swallow.

it's strange too, because over the season as a whole, i think saban and company did their best coaching job at the capstone.
I agree 100%.
 
Re: How would Bama have fared agains the Ducks?

I think we could have kept the score respectable but would probably have lost. FSU kept it close until they self destructed with turnovers. That was the only reason it was a lopsided score. Without all those turnovers it would have been close. We would have had to play a turnover free game and run the ball successfully to keep Mariota off the field.
 
Is it wrong that I think we would have handled Mariota very well, made that offense very one dimensionall and handled buisness just fine?​
 
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