Not me. I oppose gun control on principle, not feasibility.None...
I am curious, would some of you guys be willing to bend a little more, if there were not so many guns out there already?
Then he wouldn't be convictedIIRC, Cam bought the gun. He didn't know it was stolen. So you're "if he knew about such a law" hypothetical doesn't work in this case, and I believe that is the point Elefantman was trying to make.
If I were understanding O'Reilly correctly, he was saying that any crime committed with a gun would carry a mandatory 10 year federal sentence. He gave examples like sticking up a 7/11, etc. There are two crimes alleged against Cam - possession of a stolen gun and controlled substance. The second is definitely not committed with a gun. The former, it's doubtful that is what he meant, since the gun was really not used in a separate crime. Of course, that's all just O'Reilly...So if Cam Robinson is convicted of the stolen gun crime he should be put away for 10 years? That's the problem with mandatory sentences. Often good people are in a bad situation and get the full force of t he law against them.
Is possessing a stolen firearm the same as receiving stolen property, which appears to be a class c felony in AL with a sentence of 2-20 years?If I were understanding O'Reilly correctly, he was saying that any crime committed with a gun would carry a mandatory 10 year federal sentence. He gave examples like sticking up a 7/11, etc. There are two crimes alleged against Cam - possession of a stolen gun and controlled substance. The second is definitely not committed with a gun. The former, it's doubtful that is what he meant, since the gun was really not used in a separate crime. Of course, that's all just O'Reilly...
It's pointless to talk if the discussion is around infringing on the rights of the people. Passing a law to find out if it's constitutional is for the birds. No one should agree to that game.Doesn't matter. Until Republicans are willing to sit down and actually talk about things all this that's been going on will continue.
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That's a good point. Still though at least come to the table. There needs to be something. Right now, there's nothing.It's pointless to talk if the discussion is around infringing on the rights of the people. If you wish to discuss constitutional means of removing or limiting constitutional protections (a.k.a. the amendment process), then have at it.
I just had to come back to this post. How would a person know if the FBI is investigating them? (We all know Hillary is, but do they call you and tell you? Send you an email?)I'd probably be more for government reform. Get em all out. Yesterday.
If you're under investigation by the FBI, you shouldn't be able to purchase a firearm. Or run for president.
No, you don't. And you don't know when they stop, if they were...I just had to come back to this post. How would a person know if the FBI is investigating them? (We all know Hillary is, but do they call you and tell you? Send you an email?)
In the spirit of this thread, what would you suggest?Doesn't matter. Until Republicans are willing to sit down and actually talk about things all this that's been going on will continue.
I have no idea. It's hard to figure this out. We know something must be done but at the same time you don't want to impede on someone's rights as a US citizen. There ought to be a simple starting place. Just don't know where.In the spirit of this thread, what would you suggest?
I mean, it's easy to say 'something should be done', but the rubber meets the road when you have to actually decide what constitutional rights should be limited. We're talking about infringing on law-abiding citizens' rights, so it better be an effective move against a real issue, not something as superficial like a renewal of the poorly-named 'assault weapons ban'...
Automatic weapons are a non-issue - they've been banned from public sale for decades - you can buy one, but it will cost you ~$20k, it will be at least 30 years old, and you have to get a special tax stamp from the BATFE. Very, very few exist in the public realm and I can't recall the last time an automatic weapon was used in a crime.I don't believe that citizens should have automatic weapons though. I don't understand the rationale behind that other than the bad guys have them.
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Well, the starting point has become harder.Automatic weapons are a non-issue - they've been banned from public sale for decades - you can buy one, but it will cost you ~$20k, it will be at least 30 years old, and you have to get a special tax stamp from the BATFE. Very, very few exist in the public realm and I can't recall the last time an automatic weapon was used in a crime.
Yeah, that's what I can't get over.....to the uninformed, they think you can buy a full auto machine gun off the internet...(they know better, but that's the Bovine Scat that the anti gun folks spew)Automatic weapons are a non-issue - they've been banned from public sale for decades - you can buy one, but it will cost you ~$20k, it will be at least 30 years old, and you have to get a special tax stamp from the BATFE. Very, very few exist in the public realm and I can't recall the last time an automatic weapon was used in a crime.
The's kinda been my point. Everyone wants the violence to end or be reduced, but the only options people put out there are either based on ignorance about the subject or an outright violation of the rights of many millions of law-abiding citizens.Well, the starting point has become harder.
With a judiciary that continually broadens the scope of laws, there is no incentive for anyone who values his individual rights/freedoms to cooperate in the the legislative process.The's kinda been my point. Everyone wants the violence to end or be reduced, but the only options people put out there are either based on ignorance about the subject or an outright violation of the rights of many millions of law-abiding citizens.
And due in large part to the politicians who are completely ignorant about firearms outside of knowing they want to restrict them, most gun owners are wary of any new legislation that restricts our rights. Politicians like geniuses like Carolyn McCarthy: