BREAKING Sugar Bowl: Kansas State vs Alabama

Cruloc

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This is an opportunity. Kansas State beat TCU last night. It was close, but still a win. If we were to show up and pound the snot out of KSU, the team that beat TCU, then maybe the committee might reconsider that they were wrong to leave TCU in THIRD PLACE, of all things.

Let TCU get hammered by Michigan, and let us hammer the team that BEAT TCU. It won't do anything to restore our season but it'll certainly send a message.
Message? Send a message? Nobody on that committee gives a rip, its over for them now.
 

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Lol. We get rewarded with an 11 am Sugar bowl. When was the last time the Sugar bowl was at 11am.

This year was a the greatest jokes of a season and I can’t believe how we fell for it looking back. Oh well, Atleast we beat Auburn, Texas, and aTm but otherwise this is the most disappointing seasons , if not the most disappointing seasons, in the Saban run and everything about this year’s Sugar Bowl pretty much adds to it.
I have to agree with you.

We did have a Pre-Season NC caliber team on paper wrt to Talent and that hasn't changed.

But I guess we were suckered into thinking that alone could overcome TWO absolutely DREADFUL Coordinators though.

My final impression of this team/season however will be largely based on the outcome of the Sugar Bowl.

Win and it's a better season than 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013, and 2019 with a Top 5 Finish

Lose and it's only a better season than 2007 as we finish ranked somewhere between 10-15 with Two mediocre losses (KSU and Tenn) and One BAD loss (LSU).
 
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CrimsonMapper

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Since when has the Sugar Bowl been played this early
A couple of the “NY6” games have been rotating that early slot for a few years now. I’m not sure if the fiesta bowl is involved in this rotation due to the time zone, but I know the peach and cotton bowl have rotated as the lead in game for the playoffs. I guess they finally included the sugar in this rotation. Next year will probably be the cotton bowl. I was looking at tickets last week in case Bama was selected for this game, and the time was listed as 11:00 am so I don’t think this has anything to do with the teams selected. I’m pretty sure is was set a long time ago.
 

MILEHIGHTIDE

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This is an opportunity. Kansas State beat TCU last night. It was close, but still a win. If we were to show up and pound the snot out of KSU, the team that beat TCU, then maybe the committee might reconsider that they were wrong to leave TCU in THIRD PLACE, of all things.

Let TCU get hammered by Michigan, and let us hammer the team that BEAT TCU. It won't do anything to restore our season but it'll certainly send a message.
The committee does not care and there is a serious undertone going on.

tcu is anywhere from 18-1 to 30-1 to win it all depending on how you bet it

tcu is #3 in the country, are you serious?…they just lost to a team 0-3 against ranked opponents tex, tulane, tcu, no ranked wins in other words, also playing with their backup qb and missing #1 wr…if you are going to put tcu in then #4 at best

jawjaw #1 but plays the toughest route to win it all

*do not get me wrong I am not upset I do not want jawjaw to win

osu meech should have played each other again especially since it was a blowout, same conference etc.

RTR
 

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Lol. We get rewarded with an 11 am Sugar bowl. When was the last time the Sugar bowl was at 11am.

This year was a the greatest jokes of a season and I can’t believe how we fell for it looking back. Oh well, Atleast we beat Auburn, Texas, and aTm but otherwise this is the most disappointing seasons , if not the most disappointing seasons, in the Saban run and everything about this year’s Sugar Bowl pretty much adds to it.
Really, K-State is much more use to kicking off at 11 AM.
 
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MILEHIGHTIDE

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On a separate note do not sleep on osu, they have a legitimate reasonable shot to beat jawjaw…jawjaw is very beatable and their d is no where nearly as good as last year…giving up 500yds passing to lswho is evidence of that

osu better passing o and better d than lswho

arguably, especially statically, meech and osu have by far the best rushing and passing offenses and total defenses in the b10 and also tops overall nationally

talk about tough and I assure you I am not upset but jawjaw is going to play a truly dynamic passing team with a really good d, unlike tenner, and a seriously good rushing team, even without their #1 rb heisman hopeful, with a top 3 d statistically

Looking for positives and searching for anything that makes me think jawjaw can be beat 😂😂😂.

jawjaw losing might be the only medicine for us not getting in and having a down year for us, well that and tcu getting in. tcu getting pounded would help too but not as much as jawjaw losing

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I have to agree with you.

We did have a Pre-Season NC caliber team on paper wrt to Talent and that hasn't changed.

But I guess we were suckered into thinking that alone could overcome TWO absolutely DREADFUL Coordinators though.

My final impression of this team/season however will be largely based on the outcome of the Sugar Bowl.

Win and it's a better season than 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013, and 2019 with a Top 5 Finish

Lose and it's only a better season than 2007 as we finish ranked somewhere between 10-15 with Two mediocre losses (KSU and Tenn) and One BAD loss (LSU).
Nah. Even with a sugar bowl win this season is worse than all other Saban seasons except 2007, maybe on par with 2010.

2008 was a great season, the bowl game didn’t take away from that. The team clearly didn’t care about that game. We went down to the wire with the national champions.

2013 was a great season and would have been a 3 peat except for a fluke FG kick run back against Auburn. Again, the team clearly didn’t care about the Sugar Bowl and played like it. But had the playoff been in effect that year, we’d have been in and likely run the table.

2019 was a disappointing season but we lost to the eventual national champions and then to Auburn after we lost Tua.

2010 we lost 3 games but at the end showed we had what it took to dominate, and did the next 2 seasons.

This year, we lost to Tenn for the first time in 15yrs and a ok LSU team. We’ve had a horrible defense and a horrible offense, and the signs just aren’t there at the moment that the program will change enough to fix our flaws. Specifically both lines and the play calling and coaching on both sides.

None of these are really horrible seasons in the grand scheme of things, but this season has felt like the worst in a long time. We basically got by on sandlot play by our talented QB. This season doesn’t feel so much like a “what could have been”, but more like the air got let out of the ball. But maybe that’s just me.
 

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Also Was this always the start time for this season's Sugar Bowl?
Back in the good old days when there were 15 bowl games (1978 is when I began watching), this was your usual basic lineup (central time zone):

Sugar Bowl and Cotton Bowl at 1 pm
Rose Bowl at 4 pm
Orange Bowl at 7 pm

(In 1964 - all of the non-Rose Bowl games began at 1pm and then the Rose was by itself).

Also - back then - both the Cotton and Orange Bowls had parades - and the game was played on New Year's Day UNLESS Jan 1 fell on a Sunday (as it did in 1984, for example), and then the games were moved to Monday.

In January 1981, the head of the Fiesta Bowl (a man named Bruce Skinner) learned that in the next season, ABC was moving the Sugar Bowl from 1 pm to prime time to go up against the Orange Bowl (which was on NBC). So Skinner went and got the approval of NBC and asked the NCAA to change the date of the Fiesta Bowl to NYD. They went ballistic - and the conferences and the Big Four Bowl Games raged against them - but their own attorneys advised them, "You'll lose." So the Fiesta Bowl moved to early afternoon IN PLACE OF the old Sugar Bowl time slot but on NBC, and the Sugar Bowl moved to prime time just in time for Dan Marino vs Herschel Walker.

Of course, that wasn't the first time the Sugar Bowl was in PRIME TIME because the 73 Sugar Bowl between Alabama and Notre Dame kicked off at 7 pm.

So it has from time to time been at night and then in the early afternoon.

I can't find start times from pre-TV era Sugar Bowls...but the Rose Bowl even then was a standard 445pm central kickoff. It's doubtful the Sugar Bowl ever started at 11 am back in the days of 2, 3, 10, or even 15 bowl games.

I'm guessing this is in part because 1/1 is on Sunday again this year - combined with the playoff games being that day and they don't want to split the audiences.
 

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