Bama getting no respect

[TexasBama]

See this is what makes Tidefans great. You can get your grammar polished up at no extra cost.

 

[GulfCoastTider]

They were not undefeated.

Understood, but they had been highly ranked all season and ranked No. 2 when they lost their first game to a pedestrian K-state, in O/T. But on Selection Sunday one-loss TCU got in over Alabama, LSU and Tennessee, all of which were easily "better" teams but not "most deserving" because of the one extra loss.

Thankfully, this "deserving" nonsense will be greatly mitigated next year. This year the PTB may be facing their last chance to limit the SEC's access to the championship. Next year, there could be as many as three SEC teams chosen. Maybe four.

 

[BigAlinKnoxville]

Oh there’s a cost…less women will talk to us in public.

Fewer.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

This is what gave us a woefully unqualified TCU last year. The committee is not charged with choosing the "four most deserving teams." It's choosing "the four best teams."

Except TCU beat Michigan, so I'm still trying to process how the team that won was the wrong selection.

Alabama had two losses in 2019, too.
They were better than Oklahoma, who was selected.
So was Georgia.

I sure don't recall this board coming unglued that time.

Was there somehow something magical about 2019 Oklahoma winning that last game that set them apart from TCU last year?

2019 Oklahoma played:
a) a Big 12 schedule - just like TCU
b) the team with the worst record in the Pac-12 - just like TCU
c) 4-8 Houston - worse than the 7-6 SMU that TCU faced
d) an FCS team with around a .500 record - just like TCU
e) oh and LOST TO KANSAS STATE - just like TCU

The Big 12 in 2019 consisted of two double-digit win teams and everyone else 8-5 or worse - just like in 2023.

So where was all this, "The committee got it wrong" claim back then?
It's the exact same argument but with one caveat - if you argue 2-loss UGA, they only had two losses because they, you know, actually played in the SECCG.

There were two differences in OU and TCU:
1) TCU lost their conference championship game
2) TCU actually won a playoff game, which Oklahoma never has despite 4 trips

TCU was not "unqualified" last year.
It was not some gigantic horrible selection.

And no, it wasn't the Bama fatigue nonsense, and it wasn't a conspiracy to keep anyone out, either.


Again - it sure keeps sounding to me like what has bruised the ego of Tide fans is, "How DARE they select a team of the pedigree of TCU" but it's just fine if it's Blue Blood Oklahoma, who has as many national titles in the last 36 years as Auburn does.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

They were not undefeated.

They also weren't a two-loss team, either.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

That line is becoming so blurred.

I know 13-0 FSU or Washington is in. But I am questioning if they truly deserve it.

Does anyone here REALLY believe Michigan State and Iowa were better than Ohio State in 2015?

I don't.

But Ohio State got gate blocked because they lost to Sparty.

It happens.

 

[colbysullivan]

Does anyone here REALLY believe Michigan State and Iowa were better than Ohio State in 2015?

I don't.

But Ohio State got gate blocked because they lost to Sparty.

It happens.

2015 Michigan State and 2019 Oklahoma won their conference though. 2015 OSU and 2022 TCU didn’t.

 

[81usaf92]

2015 Michigan State and 2019 Oklahoma won their conference though. 2015 OSU and 2022 TCU didn’t.

2016 Ohio St didn’t win their conference and was a far cry from what they were in 2015. But yet they got in.

2015 Ohio St maybe one of the few teams that has a legitimate gripe of being left out in favor of Oklahoma.

 

[colbysullivan]

2016 Ohio St didn’t win their conference and was a far cry from what they were in 2015. But yet they got in.

2015 Ohio St maybe one of the few teams that has a legitimate gripe of being left out in favor of Oklahoma.

I’m not saying winning their conference is required. Selma brought up 2015 Michigan St and 2019 Oklahoma as examples of teams that didn’t deserve to make the playoffs, but those are bad examples. They won their conference and earned their spots.

 

[crimsonaudio]

This is what 'deserves to be there' looks like:

 

[TideEngineer08]

Does anyone here REALLY believe Michigan State and Iowa were better than Ohio State in 2015?

I don't.

But Ohio State got gate blocked because they lost to Sparty.

It happens.

I don’t either

 

[TideEngineer08]

This is what 'deserves to be there' looks like:

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In the words of the great Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were.

 

[Grogan11]

I’m hoping the networks get involved in this thing somehow to put pressure on these bozos to put the best teams in. The last thing they want is another 65-7 disaster.

 

[statgrad96]

I don’t think we are getting the proper credit for this year.

The loss against Texas is what it is.

But we are also getting dinged because a 5-7 Florida team lost on the road to Utah.

We are getting dinged because LSU lost in Orlando to FSU.

Maybe Louisville beat FSU. But what if it is a really close FSU win? Louisville lost at home to UK. We beat UK in Lexington 49-21…

But like last year K-State beat TCU and TCU didn’t suffer for that loss. Alabama goes on to obliterate K-State in the bowl game. Hindsight made clear what should have been obvious to anyone - TCU didn’t belong. But Alabama had two losses a year ago. This time around, we are 12-1 and SEC champions.

Let’s not forget that Arizona, the team currently ranked 3rd in the PAC-12 lost to Mississippi State.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Let’s not forget that Arizona, the team currently ranked 3rd in the PAC-12 lost to Mississippi State.

I’m sure this committee will factor it in

 

[GulfCoastTider]

Except TCU beat Michigan, so I'm still trying to process how the team that won was the wrong selection.

Easy--Michigan was also the wrong selection. Arguably worse because they lost to the other awful choice.

Again - it sure keeps sounding to me like what has bruised the ego of Tide fans is, "How DARE they select a team of the pedigree of TCU" but it's just fine if it's Blue Blood Oklahoma, who has as many national titles in the last 36 years as Auburn does.

Strawman fallacy. I have never expressed insult or resentment over the temerity of the committee. Only its 2022 failure to live up to what it was commissioned to do, which was to select the Four Best College Football Teams.

Please mash here for @JessN's column at the conclusion of the 2022-23 season (everyone should read it again). There should be no dispute that the committee abdicated its responsibility last year.

A 12-1 Alabama, having played by far the toughest schedule of the top 8-10 teams in the mix, will absolutely be one of the four best teams in the country. If it is not among those selected for the CFP, then the committee will have abdicated its responsibility again. If a 12-1 Georgia is not selected, then it would only be because late losses mean more than early losses.

 

[TideEngineer08]

I’m hoping the networks get involved in this thing somehow to put pressure on these bozos to put the best teams in. The last thing they want is another 65-7 disaster.

I’ve been thinking about this.

I don’t see it happening this year. Quality of play is way down across the board. There are no dominant teams. I think the only risk of a true blowout is Florida State because they lost their QB.

I think Oregon/Washington would be competitive with Georgia and ultimately lose something like 31-17.

I think Michigan could win it all. I think Texas could as well.

Of the top 8, I think all the match ups could be competitive, compelling games. Again, except FSU, who I just don’t see being competitive without their QB.

 

[Nothingfaced]

If Alabama can end the streak and beat Georgia in Atlanta twice in 3 years, I wouldn’t even be upset at missing the playoffs.

A NY6 win, 13-1 season and top 5 finish would be an absolutely stellar finish to such a bipolar start.

 

[GulfCoastTider]

I’m hoping the networks get involved in this thing somehow to put pressure on these bozos to put the best teams in. The last thing they want is another 65-7 disaster.

I hope the media is kept as far away as possible. The areas of the country with mega-urban TV markets are also the regions with west coast, northeast and midwest college football programs. The differences between the sets of eyes aged 25-54 in these media markets numbers in the tens of millions. If media companies get too heavy a thumb on the scale, no sunbelt schools will ever catch a break, regardless of merit.

 

[B1GTide]

If Alabama can end the streak and beat Georgia in Atlanta twice in 3 years, I wouldn’t even be upset at missing the playoffs.

A NY6 win, 13-1 season and top 5 finish would be an absolutely stellar finish to such a bipolar start.

If anyone had told Alabama fans that they would be right here after the USF game, every one of them would have signed up for it. I am trying to learn to enjoy the game for itself, not the results. This Alabama team is absolutely amazing, no matter how this ride ends.