This is the first time the BCS formula differed from the CFP final four...

[rtr90]

I mean Booger lost his mind the other day and his 2003 LSU team lost to a Fla team AT HOME by 12 points who finished 8-5.

Is he going to give back his ring?

Dont believe Booger was on that team. Marcus Spears was

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Dont believe Booger was on that team. Marcus Spears was

Correct.

In fact, he never even played during any of the Saban years at LSU.
He was drafted in 1999, when DiWeirdo was still coach there.

 

[BamaMoon]

Everybody was upset about TCU getting into the playoff and losing the way they did to Georgia in the NC game.

But why in the world couldn't Michigan beat them in the semis???

UM was as big of a culprit in this as TCU!

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Dont believe Booger was on that team. Marcus Spears was

Yeah I knew about Marcus but for some reason I thought Booger was on that team too.

But anyway it’s still another SEC team and LSU team that got the benefit of the doubt who wasn’t Bama.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Everybody was upset about TCU getting into the playoff and losing the way they did to Georgia in the NC game.

But why in the world couldn't Michigan beat them in the semis???

UM was as big of a culprit in this as TCU!

A point I've made repeatedly.

 

[BamaMoon]

Since it's under discussion, I didn't think Bama should have been considered for the CFP last year with 2 losses and many other close calls.

That team was not made for slobber-knocker games and Georgia would have cleaned that team's clock.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

But why in the world couldn't Michigan beat them in the semis???

To be fair - and I can't stand UM - but the refs DID hose them at a key juncture of the game.
I understand you have to overcome it, but it was similar to 2004 LSU when there was a 14-point swing on one play, but it took two plays to do it.

The flip side is TCU, who hardly can pull in the biggest fish anywhere, really had no business staying with a team like Michigan, who can name the players they want in-state and has a national rep out of it.

Back to the OP point - I think the vast majority of this board would have been fine with a four-team BCS.
If that means Boise State makes it, so be it. There will ALWAYS be suspicion in a poll-based sport, and football doesn't lend itself to tournament corrections like basketball does.

 

[BamaNation]

...but it's not what you think...

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Thanks.

But Bama did *something* like stack the BCS computers with a Bama virus so this would happen. It's a sham.

 

[Tideflyer]

Texas beating us in September covered a multitude of future sins for the rest of the season in the eyes of the committee. No different than people screaming at our performance against Auburn, yet completely ignoring that weekend where Auburn was handling UGA and UGA squeaked out a 27-20 win. That was the same "pitiful" Auburn team we played. Not to mention UGA had several other games where 75% of the game they looked bad to rough but pulled away in the last quarter of the game to make it look like on paper they handled the game.

As if we don`t already know, but just goes to illustrate the continuing value of a win over Alabama.
I`m not certain, but it didn`t look like any Bama fans " rushed the field " after the game Saturday. That`s after beating a two in a row national champion, 29 game win streak, " best team/program ever? " UGA. AND winning the SEC Championship, to boot! If that`s accurate, that just tickles the hell out of me. " Act like you`ve been there before."- Coach Bryant.

 

[BamaMoon]

As if we don`t already know, but just goes to illustrate the continuing value of a win over Alabama.
I`m not certain, but it didn`t look like any Bama fans " rushed the field " after the game Saturday. That`s after beating a two in a row national champion, 29 game win streak, " best team/program ever? " UGA. If that`s accurate, that just tickles the hell out of me. " Act like you`ve been there before."- Coach Bryant.

If I heard it once I heard it 100 times leading up to the selection show, "Texas has the best win of anybody in the country when they went to Tuscaloosa and beat them by double digits."

Yeah, Bama still matters and even more so now!!!

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Thanks.

But Bama did *something* like stack the BCS computers with a Bama virus so this would happen. It's a sham.

I think the brutal reality is this, we have TWO competing ideas in a bit of conflict:

a) we need a "better" playoff system (always the argument regardless)
b)_what people REALLY WANT is a PERFECT playoff system designed by imperfect humans.

Just like with the BCS, it's EASY to trash the system, but you might provide a cure worse than the disease. But even in the other sports, there's nothing resembling a guarantee of perfection. I haven't paid close attention to the NFL for years (literally - have not seen a single play this year), I tune in around Week 17 when CFB concludes and the bowls are lousy. There are two right off the top of my head that are still considered injustices but, well, they just happened: 1) 11-5 Denver missing the playoffs while 8-8 Cleveland went in 1985; 2) 7-9 Seattle hosting the defending 11-5 world champion Saints because Seattle won their division and New Orleans didn't. I'm sure there's plenty more if I actually cared about the NFL.


"It's wrong that the bowls don't count" - so we counted the bowls.
"It's wrong that the best teams don't settle it on the field" - so we invented the BCS
"It's wrong that a team that lost its conference title game by 28 points stayed #1 and played for the national championship" combined with "head to head should matter" and "we can't have two teams from the same conference in the final" - and we invented the CFP

And the moment we have THREE unbeaten G5 teams and only one gets in, guess what???????

 

[Bamabuzzard]

How many times did anyone bring up UT barely getting by a 5-7 TCU? By 3.

And that wasn't the only game against a bad team they struggled against but my guess is since no one watches Big 12 games unless they're playing an SEC team, it went unnoticed.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Some of it from the PUNDITS might be termed "SEC fatigue" or even (cringe) "Bama fatigue", their hope that "it would be nice to see someone besides an SEC team win the championship."

OTOH, I'm amused by the rise of "Texas lost to a two-loss team" on the same board where a substantial chunk of the membership was wanting a 2-loss team in the playoff just one year ago.

Florida State's anger is understandable. I can't help but feel a bit for "we got good kids" (Tim Wilson's standup about Bobby Bowden) even though I don't care for the program.

But then again, Alabama's players suffered a similar miscarriage of justice in 1966 - and Coach Bryant never trashed the procedure for selecting a champion, he taught his players to RESPECT THE PROCESS involved.

Florida State like all other teams agreed to the rules before the season began.

Jason Autrey REALLY screwed us... 😖

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Everybody was upset about TCU getting into the playoff and losing the way they did to Georgia in the NC game.

But why in the world couldn't Michigan beat them in the semis???

UM was as big of a culprit in this as TCU!

Because Meeshugin was stealing bogus signals...

 

[Its On A Slab]

While a 4-team playoff is much better than the old BCS 2-team, it still has the possibility of teams getting left out that have an argument to be in it. Still can be seen as a beauty contest.

Next year, with the expanded playoff, it's going to be much harder for the #13 team to complain about not getting last slot. Right now, if it was in place today, LSU(#13) and Arizona(#14) would be on the outside. Both would have very weak arguments. Arizona lost to Mississippi State. LSU has 3 losses.

Tongue-in-cheek: I'm surprised that they didn't give ND an automatic bid just because they are Notre Dame.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Since it's under discussion, I didn't think Bama should have been considered for the CFP last year with 2 losses and many other close calls.

That team was not made for slobber-knocker games and Georgia would have cleaned that team's clock.

Depends on if the referee is named Autrey...

 

[CB4]

How many times did anyone bring up UT barely getting by a 5-7 TCU? By 3.

Or that Texas versus Houston, was leading 31-24 and Houston got hosed by on a 3rd and 1 spot inside the Texas 10 yard line with 1:40 to go. Should have been 1st and goal inside the ten. At least Houston should’ve took them to overtime.

 

[CB4]

To be fair - and I can't stand UM - but the refs DID hose them at a key juncture of the game.
I understand you have to overcome it, but it was similar to 2004 LSU when there was a 14-point swing on one play, but it took two plays to do it.

The flip side is TCU, who hardly can pull in the biggest fish anywhere, really had no business staying with a team like Michigan, who can name the players they want in-state and has a national rep out of it.

Back to the OP point - I think the vast majority of this board would have been fine with a four-team BCS.
If that means Boise State makes it, so be it. There will ALWAYS be suspicion in a poll-based sport, and football doesn't lend itself to tournament corrections like basketball does.

A crew led by none other than….Jason Autery.

 

[CB4]

***Digs through dresser in search of 2017 UCF Golden Knights National Champions swag….

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

To be fair - and I can't stand UM - but the refs DID hose them at a key juncture of the game.
I understand you have to overcome it, but it was similar to 2004 LSU when there was a 14-point swing on one play, but it took two plays to do it.

The flip side is TCU, who hardly can pull in the biggest fish anywhere, really had no business staying with a team like Michigan, who can name the players they want in-state and has a national rep out of it.

Back to the OP point - I think the vast majority of this board would have been fine with a four-team BCS.
If that means Boise State makes it, so be it. There will ALWAYS be suspicion in a poll-based sport, and football doesn't lend itself to tournament corrections like basketball does.

Again, guess who the referee was...