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I’ve read that Putin is the world’s richest person. What could be motivating him to keep pushing for more?
I think he wants to go down in history as someone who expanded Russia, he will never stop pushing for more.

Trump, on the other hand, seems to be motivated by whoever kisses his butt the best. It’s all about respect for him and demeaning everybody else.

Could it be any more obvious who the puppet is, and who the puppet master is?
 
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" The attack followed a statement issued earlier this month by the U.S. Embassy in Moscow that urged the Americans to avoid crowded places in the Russian capital in view of “imminent” plans by extremists to target large gatherings in Moscow, including concerts. "

 

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Yahoo is reporting that ISIS is claiming responsibility.


For the life of me, I can’t understand why ISIS would do this. Given their hostility to all things western, you would think Russia would be a source of cash, weapons, whatever. Surely they don’t really think they’re going to intimidate Putin into supplying them.

I would have bet money that it was a false flag from Putin, so he could blame Ukraine and rally public support.

Might be the start of something bigger. Might be an isolated incident. Will be interesting to see it play out.

I’m still wondering, “Why?”
 
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Yahoo is reporting that ISIS is claiming responsibility.


For the life of me, I can’t understand why ISIS would do this. Given their hostility to all things western, you would think Russia would be a source of cash, weapons, whatever. Surely they don’t really think they’re going to intimidate Putin into supplying them.

Might be the start of something bigger. Might be an isolated incident. Will be interesting to see it play out.

I’m still wondering, “Why?”
I guess ISIS is an enemy of Assad, but still - it doesnt't make sense. If it was a false flag by Putin, it wouldn't be the first time.
 

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Yahoo is reporting that ISIS is claiming responsibility.

I’m still wondering, “Why?”
When you’re dealing with crazy people, there is often no “why.” At least not one that makes any sense.

If it’s not that, it wouldn’t surprise me if the CIA’s fingerprints were all over this.
 
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Yeah, the pictures pretty much tell the story. I was particularly horrified by the guy whose genitals were being shocked. I'm pretty sure Russia will have a pretty vivid idea of how and why this happened (and most importantly, who is responsible.)
 

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Ukraine relies on Starlink for its drone war. Russia appears to be bypassing sanctions to use the devices too

Ukrainian front-line troops say they are experiencing connection problems with the vital Starlink internet service, owned by Elon Musk and used to run Kyiv’s fleet of attack drones, while also reporting an increase in Russian use of the devices, despite this being prohibited by US sanctions.

In a series of interviews across the front lines, Ukrainian soldiers have said connection speeds have dropped in the past months, and reported other connection problems. The complaints coincide with a rise in Ukrainian sightings of Russian uses of the satellite internet service, run by Musk’s SpaceX, and social media posts in which Russian crowdfunders claim to have successfully bypassed sanctions on Russian use of the devices, buying them in third countries.
Ukrainian officials first sounded the alarm about Russian Starlink use in early February, suggesting they were working with SpaceX and Musk to reduce Moscow’s front-line access to the units. Yet they declined to comment for this article, with some experts citing the need to keep the unpredictable businessman on board as a reason for discretion.

“Musk is a big child, so it’s important to talk to him and don’t offend him here because he might make some quick decisions that might not be very good for everyone,” said Oleg Kutkov, a Kyiv-based internet analyst. He said Starlink should be able to restrict access to Russian-held terminals, but their purchase through third countries by Russian crowdfunders might complicate the task.

“The problem is to identify the actual owner of the account. It might be that in one location there are two terminals both (bought) from Poland, and one is working for (the) Ukrainian side and one for the Russian side. And SpaceX just don’t know who they should block,” he said.

In a bid to crack down on Russian Starlink use in occupied areas, Ukraine has sought to impose new legal conditions on satellite communications like Starlink terminals, creating a “whitelist” of registered devices authorised for use by Kyiv. SpaceX, Starlink’s owner, has sought Pentagon advice, according to a person familiar with the matter, on how to deal with the challenge of both satisfying Kyiv’s wishes that Starlink be accessible to Ukrainian forces across all Ukrainian territory, yet also denying Russian forces the service in front-line areas where opposing sides are often so close it is hard to determine the user of each terminal.
 

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Video from Peter Zeihan, talking about the recent advances in drones, and how they're moving in Ukraine's favor.

The New Face of Military Technology || Peter Zeihan (youtube.com)

Due to the American Congress dragging its feet on aid for Ukraine, the Ukrainians have actually developed a lot of this themselves. Which is good.

The scary thing for me is this: If Ukraine can do that, so can a lot of bad guys.

It's a matter of time before a terrorist, domestic or foreign, launches one (or a bunch) of these things at targets on American soil.
 

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I guess ISIS is an enemy of Assad, but still - it doesnt't make sense. If it was a false flag by Putin, it wouldn't be the first time.
It would not be the first time.
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The second of those is better than the first, but since Litvenenko was murdered for the first, he gets top billing.
The timing for an inside job is suspect. It would be more likely that Putin would do this two months before rather than a week after his election.
As for why ISIS would do this, we may see Russia as the enemy of the West, but ISIS sees Russia as a Christian, western (sort of) country with a significant muslim population. Sort of like the Bolsheviks hating the Mensheviks more than the KDs.
 

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The Trypilska Thermal Power Plant (TPP), the largest supplier of electricity to Kyiv, Cherkasy and Zhytomyr regions, was completely destroyed, according to the energy company Centrenergo. The company has lost 100% of its power generation across its three plants, which have all been destroyed or occupied by Russia.

“A black day in the history of Centrenergo,” it said in a statement. “The scale of the destruction is terrible. Money can’t estimate it. This is the biggest challenge for us in the history of the company.”

Over more than two years of war, Russia has systematically targeted Ukraine’s energy infrastructure in an attempt to break the country’s power grid and, with it, the Ukrainian people’s spirit, by depriving them of electricity, heat, water and other essential services in the often-freezing winter temperatures.
 

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Pretty clear the Ukrainian offensive last year was at least in part to counter this.
Yeah, and I wish it had succeeded.
The Russians obviously think like I do (or I think like they do), and realized that the pre-existing railroad was a critical vulnerability for their retention of Crimea.
 

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After dithering for month after month, refusing to bring up a bill to resupply Ukraine with ammunition, Mike Johnson finally gave up his obstruction and allowed a vote which passed by a wide margin.

Now Johnson is getting credit for doing the right thing…standing up to Putin…but what was the cost of his putting the vote off so long to please the Putin wing of the GOP?

In my opinion Johnson hands‘ are dripping Ukrainian blood.
 
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After dithering for month after month, refusing to bring up a bill to resupply Ukraine with ammunition, Mike Johnson finally gave up his obstruction and allowed a vote which passed by a wide margin.

Now Johnson is getting credit for doing the right thing…standing up to Putin…but what was the cost of his putting the vote off so long to please the Putin wing of the GOP?

In my opinion Johnson hands‘ are dripping Ukrainian blood.
To play devil's advocate, it's easily possible that this was the earliest date it could be accomplished. I'd bet there have been thousands of private conversations, both between him and key Republicans and Democrats, not only as to what they could vote for in the split bills, but also commitments to vote for his continued speakership. By doing that, which took time, a lot of time, he could proceed to ignore Greene and company. He's emasculated her, if you'll ignore the metaphor. She's filed her vacate motion but she's afraid to call for a vote, because she'd lose. Pretty adept. When you look at this accomplishment, in combination with the vital bipartisan efforts he's captained with the debt ceiling, etc., he's proving to be a pretty effective Speaker. If you ask me if I like him, the answer is "no." If you ask me if I wished this had been accomplished earlier, then certainly "yes." I'm willing to cut him a little slack and continue to observe, (as if I had a choice)...
 

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To play devil's advocate, it's easily possible that this was the earliest date it could be accomplished. I'd bet there have been thousands of private conversations, both between him and key Republicans and Democrats, not only as to what they could vote for in the split bills, but also commitments to vote for his continued speakership. By doing that, which took time, a lot of time, he could proceed to ignore Greene and company. He's emasculated her, if you'll ignore the metaphor. She's filed her vacate motion but she's afraid to call for a vote, because she'd lose. Pretty adept. When you look at this accomplishment, in combination with the vital bipartisan efforts he's captained with the debt ceiling, etc., he's proving to be a pretty effective Speaker. If you ask me if I like him, the answer is "no." If you ask me if I wished this had been accomplished earlier, then certainly "yes." I'm willing to cut him a little slack and continue to observe, (as if I had a choice)...
In the same devil's advocate spirit...

I think I've read that Johnson's abrupt about face about supporting Ukraine (he had voted against aid every chance he had) was a result of his having finally believed the seriousness of Ukraine's situation. After multiple briefs over the past six months, he finally believed his briefers and decided to act. He was also waiting for Trump's permission to buck MTG.
His obstacle was the clown caucus, but I would argue that he could have emasculated that bunch months ago. The delay in my opinion was because he valued his speakership more than standing by our allies, and it took six months to work up the courage to do something Trump might not like.
It didn't take a genius to need Dem votes to put bills over the top, just someone willing to do it. He was dragged kicking and screaming to the table, as evidenced by his visit to Trump in Florida a few weeks ago. Trump offered Johnson his support.

Mike Johnson Makes Pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to Save His Speakership | Vanity Fair

Trump said Friday that Greene’s push was “unfortunate.” “It’s not an easy situation for any speaker,” he said. I’m sure that Majorie understands that.” The former president also said he believes Greene, whom he described as a “very good friend … has a lot of respect for the Speaker."

In exchange for Trump’s endorsement, Johnson offered a full-throated defense of the GOP’s presumptive nominee’s efforts to sow doubt about U.S. elections, both past and future. With the press conference being billed as about “election integrity,” Johnson baselessly claimed that “potentially hundreds of thousands of votes” from undocumented migrants may be cast next November and vowed to push forward with a bill that would make anyone registering to vote provide proof of citizenship.
The reports of Johnson's efforts around the insurrection showed Johnson's true colors, in my humble opinion.
 

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In my opinion, if the Dems give Johnson needed votes to keep his gavel, the price should be no more Russian election propaganda leading up to November's elections by trying to undermine public confidence in our elections.
If he starts up that nonsense again, any Dem can pull the trigger to call a vote just like MTG can.

Edit: It's my understanding that any member of the House can initiate a vote to fire the speaker. I don't think that's limited to only the majority party, but I'm not certain about that.
 
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