After 13 games we're 9-4. Let's revisit our thoughts and outlook on Coach Kalen DeBoer

BamaBoySince89

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Milroe's "business decision" to not tackle and instead try to trip the defender after his interception should have been enough to put him on the bench the rest of the game / season. He had the angle and the speed to make a tackle and ... didn't.
And let’s not forget:

Two runs in the first half where Milroe has positive yardage if he just goes straight ahead, but yet he resorts to running East/west and lose yards

The 2nd and 2 where he decides to throw the ball away and not run for the first down. Its like he doesn’t want to be hit

The body language on the sidelines that was eerily similar to the Tennessee game. If I didn’t know any better, it looked like an effort to mail it in was present last night. That ridiculous call on Williams for the TD was the final blow.

No way we should have lost to a 5-5 (1-5 in the SEC) team with no healthy WR, and a broken offense with a QB who has been pulled multiple times. This one doesn’t sit right with me and probably never will. This loss is worse than any we’ve seen in at least 20 years.
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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And let’s not forget:

Two runs in the first half where Milroe has positive yardage, he resorts to running East/west and lose yards

The 2nd and 2 where he decides to throw the ball away and not run for the first down

The body language on the sidelines that was eerily similar to the Tennessee game. If I didn’t know any better, it looked like an effort to mail it in was present last night. That ridiculous call on Williams for the TD was the final blow.

No way we should have lost to a 5-5 (1-5 in the SEC) team with no healthy WR, and a broken offense with a QB who has been pulled multiple times. This one doesn’t sit right with me and probably never will. This loss is worse than any we’ve seen in at least 20 years.
Face it, Milroe's decision making matrix is suspect
 

81usaf92

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Milroe's "business decision" to not tackle and instead try to trip the defender after his interception should have been enough to put him on the bench the rest of the game / season. He had the angle and the speed to make a tackle and ... didn't.
Dare i say… a little Cam Newtonish effort. But to his credit he has far exceeded my expectations both positively and negatively after the scrimmage last year. Wish him the best but it’s beat Auburn and salvage some good will or lose and receive eternal blame for things fair and unfair.
 

DrollTide

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I was all in on Milroe, and I regret it, not that my "support" or lack of makes any difference.

If you're going to get exposed, it would have been better overall to do the losing earlier rather than later. That was really an awful performance, in my view 50/50 on the OC who should be released before lunch today. Three points is unacceptable if the 3rd stringers started.
 

colbysullivan

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Just look at everything that happened last night, you can’t tell me something was off
“Off” would imply “different than the norm”. That‘s not what happened last night. Milroe has always made horrible decisions. Some of them just happened to work out, but that doesn’t mean they were the right decision. I have never seen a player consistently “pass when they should run”, and “run when they should pass” more in my life.
 

BamaBoySince89

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“Off” would imply “different than the norm”. That‘s not what happened last night. Milroe has always made horrible decisions. Some of them just happened to work out, but that doesn’t mean they were the right decision. I have never seen a player consistently “pass when they should run”, and “run when they should pass” more in my life.
It was a nice way of saying it looked like a selfish act to protect future interests
 

Easttexastide

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Next year will be the tell when Milroe is gone. Saban knew what time it was he left with a Qb that so called took us to one game away from a national championship one snap away.. and he still left. So once Milroe is gone and we are truly starting over then we can judge Deboer
 

selmaborntidefan

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I know it's a cliche, but it's also true:

"Professional athletes LET you coach them."

That's not to say coaches are unnecessary at the professional level (they obviously are), but there's also a large degree of "I can play the sport, you can't, and I might know in the heat of a situation what works better than you do."

Guess what?
NIL means these folks are professional athletes.
Transfer portal means they have a level of free agency that the pro sports had to spend a century fighting to get A SLIVER of what the college players have now.

Last night was the, well, fourth and a half Alabama game I've seen all year.

There's a fair to middlin' chance it might be either the last or among the last - NOT because we are no longer a dynasty (I mean, I'm old enough to remember the final years of the Bryant Dynasty) - but because there's no such thing as a coach that's going to be able to manage this situation. It is a literal "inmates are running the prison" situation.

We are (thisfar) away from two teams colluding to not take the field unless they get a cut of the TV revenue for a conference/national championship game. (That idea was thrown out there at least back in 1986, when Penn State and Miami met in the Fiesta Bowl and NBC nudged Sunkist to throw in an extra million bucks to draw the schools to the game; it would be much easier to pull off nowadays with cell phones and social media).

You cannot get a 19-year-old millionaire to listen to you, plain and simple. (And for the record, I'm not even opposed to the concept of NIL, but this is insane).
 

arthurdawg

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Sad thing is... while our depleted defense was quite bad in the first half, they played better in the second half and only gave up 10 points. I can't fully blame them for the short drive on the INT, hard to reliably stop in that setting. Even then... 17 points shouldn't be out or range for a competent offense.

With even a mediocre effort on offense that was a winnable game. But three INTs leading to 14 points and nothing else will lose you the game every single time.

The absolute refusal to use anyone other than Milroe over the last two seasons has cost us. And even worse, BOB has been proven correct if he actually did tell CNS that Milroe wasn't a QB and never would be.
 

TideMan09

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and I don't want to hear all the whining from players and coaches that "nobody believed in us" ... you know why nobody believes in you? Because of how you played and coached this year, that's why. You're all professionals now. Criticism comes with it. Get over yourselves.
When you add in the points Oklahoma left on the field, that should've been scores, this was as bad of a curb stomping I remember us having at Bama & that includes the Shula years..

With the talent we have & we still have talent..I blame the coaching staff with this loss..
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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Sad thing is... while our depleted defense was quite bad in the first half, they played better in the second half and only gave up 10 points. I can't fully blame them for the short drive on the INT, hard to reliably stop in that setting. Even then... 17 points shouldn't be out or range for a competent offense.

With even a mediocre effort on offense that was a winnable game. But three INTs leading to 14 points and nothing else will lose you the game every single time.

The absolute refusal to use anyone other than Milroe over the last two seasons has cost us. And even worse, BOB has been proven correct if he actually did tell CNS that Milroe wasn't a QB and never would be.
Who knew BOB would look like Nostradamus in the long run
 

DrollTide

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You cannot get a 19-year-old millionaire to listen to you, plain and simple. (And for the record, I'm not even opposed to the concept of NIL, but this is insane).
Agreed, Selma. The Lambo in the parking lot did not improve Beck. This phenomenon may be widespread. Strange that vast amounts of money for a mercenary team may not improved outcomes by much, or worsen them.
 
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