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House GOP lawmakers are proposing nearly $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid and food stamps. Here’s who could be impacted

Trump has repeatedly vowed not to touch Medicaid, while GOP lawmakers insist that their proposals would largely affect adults who could – and should, in their view – be employed. But the actual impact would likely hit a far broader range of Americans, including some of the most vulnerable people the GOP has promised repeatedly to protect, experts say. They include children, people with disabilities and senior citizens.


“Waste, fraud, and abuse” appears to have a very broad definition in the Republican lexicon. It seems to mean that if you’re not wealthy you shouldn’t be receiving benefits from the federal government.
 
selmaborntidefan said:
No, this craziness has been going on since every President after Calvin Coolidge. We can argue over what was good or bad, but no, deficits did not sprout of nowhere in 1980.
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Yes but it has really gotten out of control starting in the 80s. Also, WWII was a different matter. My point partially is how the party of fiscal responsibility, the Republicans, unfortunately sold out.
 
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Sweet Jesus.


Outgoing Capitol Police chief blasts reported settlement in Jan. 6 shooting
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The settlement is disgusting. The Capitol police and the Secret Service did an amazing job showing restraint that day. Those terrorists are lucky more of them were not killed. The folks at that door were warned multiple times to back away, and she was the idiot who decided to try and climb through the broken window. This officer had a job to protect the people in the building. I have no sympathy for terrorists.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1924833637427532151


SEN HASSAN: What is habeas corpus?

NOEM: Habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country



We have the most ignorant people running our National Security Apparatus.
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So glad that Sen. Hassan put the idiot Neom in her place. It needs to happen more often with the idiots in this administration.

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House GOP lawmakers are proposing nearly $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid and food stamps. Here’s who could be impacted

Trump has repeatedly vowed not to touch Medicaid, while GOP lawmakers insist that their proposals would largely affect adults who could – and should, in their view – be employed. But the actual impact would likely hit a far broader range of Americans, including some of the most vulnerable people the GOP has promised repeatedly to protect, experts say. They include children, people with disabilities and senior citizens.


“Waste, fraud, and abuse” appears to have a very broad definition in the Republican lexicon. It seems to mean that if you’re not wealthy you shouldn’t be receiving benefits from the federal government.
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I'm almost at the point where I hope they do it because the only chance we have for MAGA voters to maybe stop voting for these idiots is if they ruin their lives. Still probably wishful thinking because the MAGAs in congress will just convince the MAGA voters that it wasn't the trillion in cuts that ruined their healthcare, it was Biden's fault.
 
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Yes but it has really gotten out of control starting in the 80s. Also, WWII was a different matter. My point partially is how the party of fiscal responsibility, the Republicans, unfortunately sold out.
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And I concur btw.

As I related on another post, Dick Morris pointed out that the GOP's big issues had once been balanced budgets, national security, and anti-Communism (which is sort of national security). And Bush 41 TRIED to steer the plane back into the balanced direction with his 1990 budget deal.

But now?

We're all having a party like a team of hired football players paid in the bad ole days - and the ones who pay the price at the school will be the players who come along right as the shoe drops with the punishment.
 
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Considering what this administration has eliminated under the guise of "waste, fraud, and abuse," Trump's statement has little real meaning and is cold comfort to recipients of Medicaid. I hope I'm wrong and that there are major adjustments to the proposed cuts in the "big, beautiful bill." If that happens, I'll be back here to give Trump the credit.
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As stated in my last post, I posted that video mostly to share the POTUS's statement as follows:

"He told lawmakers not to touch Medicaid, except for eliminating what he claims is "waste, fraud and abuse" within the program."

Why mention this? Because of the ridiculous chatter I see and hear about the POTUS wanting to cut Medicare. Of course the folks who are saying this make a living off scare tactics and fear mongering, so take that for what it's worth.

As to your comment: "what this administration has eliminated under the guise of "waste, fraud, and abuse," - something needed to be done. I doubt everything was done as perfect as it should have been and predict we will see more before it's all over.

But something needed to be done by someone - and I would think there are many Americans who support such an effort.

From the U.S. Government Accountability Office's website:

The federal government loses between $233 billion and $521 billion annually to fraud, according to GAO’s government-wide estimates based on data from fiscal years 2018 through 2022. Additionally, federal improper payment estimates have totaled about $2.8 trillion since FY 2003—and the actual amount may be significantly higher because this is based on a small number of programs that report these numbers. For instance, 16 agencies reported a total of about $162 billion in improper payments across 68 programs in FY 2024. Most (75%) of these improper payments were concentrated in 5 areas.
 
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As stated in my last post, I posted that video mostly to share the POTUS's statement as follows:

"He told lawmakers not to touch Medicaid, except for eliminating what he claims is "waste, fraud and abuse" within the program."

Why mention this? Because of the ridiculous chatter I see and hear about the POTUS wanting to cut Medicare. Of course the folks who are saying this make a living off scare tactics and fear mongering, so take that for what it's worth.

As to your comment: "what this administration has eliminated under the guise of "waste, fraud, and abuse," - something needed to be done. I doubt everything was done as perfect as it should have been and predict we will see more before it's all over.

But something needed to be done by someone - and I would think there are many Americans who support such an effort.

From the U.S. Government Accountability Office's website:

The federal government loses between $233 billion and $521 billion annually to fraud, according to GAO’s government-wide estimates based on data from fiscal years 2018 through 2022. Additionally, federal improper payment estimates have totaled about $2.8 trillion since FY 2003—and the actual amount may be significantly higher because this is based on a small number of programs that report these numbers. For instance, 16 agencies reported a total of about $162 billion in improper payments across 68 programs in FY 2024. Most (75%) of these improper payments were concentrated in 5 areas.
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I don't think that any normal taxpayer would be against eliminating fraud, but let's be clear here, the actual amount is between 3 and 7% of total expenses. So, when there's a series of 15%+ layoffs, that has NOTHING to do with eliminating fraud and waste. That's just a guise for destroying the work that group is doing under the drown the government in a bathtub regardless of the work that group does mantra.

I would be glad to see a real laser focused approach to cutting bloat etc. This administration doesn't care to do that.
 
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Bazza said:
As stated in my last post, I posted that video mostly to share the POTUS's statement as follows:

"He told lawmakers not to touch Medicaid, except for eliminating what he claims is "waste, fraud and abuse" within the program."

Why mention this? Because of the ridiculous chatter I see and hear about the POTUS wanting to cut Medicare. Of course the folks who are saying this make a living off scare tactics and fear mongering, so take that for what it's worth.
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Yeah, we know why you posted it. Personally, I doubt Trump cares one way or another, as he will never need Medicaid. The GOP, on the other hand, get collectively moist and giggly at the prospect of gutting Medicaid--and they're the ones writing the legislation. To wit:


House GOP lawmakers are proposing nearly $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid and food stamps.

As to your comment: "what this administration has eliminated under the guise of "waste, fraud, and abuse," - something needed to be done. I doubt everything was done as perfect as it should have been and predict we will see more before it's all over.

But something needed to be done by someone - and I would think there are many Americans who support such an effort.
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"Something"

Something needed to be done, so you're good with anything Trump comes up with? Seriously? He made some high profile--and ill-considered cuts while also implementing policies that will drive up both prices and the deficit. But he did something, and that's all that matters.

From the U.S. Government Accountability Office's website:

The federal government loses between $233 billion and $521 billion annually to fraud, according to GAO’s government-wide estimates based on data from fiscal years 2018 through 2022. Additionally, federal improper payment estimates have totaled about $2.8 trillion since FY 2003—and the actual amount may be significantly higher because this is based on a small number of programs that report these numbers. For instance, 16 agencies reported a total of about $162 billion in improper payments across 68 programs in FY 2024. Most (75%) of these improper payments were concentrated in 5 areas.
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The federal government lost ~$700 billion in tax fraud. Trump's layoffs are only going to drive that figure up--largely by making it easier for the rich to avoid taxes.

But he did something, so goody.
 
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Bazza said:
As stated in my last post, I posted that video mostly to share the POTUS's statement as follows:

"He told lawmakers not to touch Medicaid, except for eliminating what he claims is "waste, fraud and abuse" within the program."
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This is standard Republican rhetoric. I mean, we shouldn't even pause to laugh at it. There's ALWAYS "waste/fraud/abuse in welfare/Medicare/Medicaid/etc" - and I don't doubt for one second there is. Just like I know for a fact that it happens incessantly in the Defense Dept because we all saw it.

But this same guy isn't cutting anything HE wants, and he's wanting to throw another $13 TRILLION at the Pentagon, and his own personal and business tactics don't give me an iota of confidence that he knows the value of a buck.

Democrats like to pretend every election cycle that we can just "tax the rich and cut the Pentagon" and everything is going to be okay. The Republicans like to pretend there's this magic pill we can all take where we can cut taxes even more AND cut spending AND none of those spending cuts will hit the really needy because we are "only tackling FWA."

And no, he doesn't get credit for "he's the only willing to do something" when it's his job to lay this out in the SOTU and the job of Congress -which the last time I looked was controlled by his party - to pass it, work it, debate it, compromise, etc.

Why is it corporate price gouging causing inflation ONLY happens when Democrats (who are gonna show them big bad corporations who's boss) are in office and why is it elections are only stolen when Republicans are the ones in office?

How. Does. This. Work????
 
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Bazza said:
As stated in my last post, I posted that video mostly to share the POTUS's statement as follows:

"He told lawmakers not to touch Medicaid, except for eliminating what he claims is "waste, fraud and abuse" within the program."
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And I'm sure that they all know that this statement was made with 'a wink and a nod'. He'll sign the bill even if it totally guts Medicaid.
 
Bamaro said:
And I'm sure that they all know that this statement was made with 'a wink and a nod'. He'll sign the bill even if it totally guts Medicaid.
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I guess red state voters get to Find Out when grandma loses her nursing home money when Medicaid goes away and she has to move in........
 
I'm sure we all aware of the downgrade of the US credit rating. This is just a step along the way. I don't claim to have answers for how to deal with all of these issues. Medicaid is a needed program, but I agree there is abuse and able bodied people are on it that should be told to get a job if they want to keep it. I think the proposal is able bodied adults would need to work 80 hours a month to maintain benefits. That's not much.

We need Medicare and SS to be solvent. People have paid into this for years, and they deserve the benefit.

We need the DoD to function and have a top flight military. The enemies we have are real.

We need all kinds of government agencies that we can all name, but it's all going to come to a grinding halt. Have you seen the yield on a 30 year US bond. The market is saying they don't think it will be repaid without inflating the currency and the market doesn't trust the US government.

We are heading over a cliff like we are Thelma and Louise. When we hit the bottom it's going to be terrible for us and the entire world economy. Hard choices need to be made now or in a few years everyone will be running around with their hair on fire screaming. It's coming at us and it's a simple math problem. It's just facts. Math has no feelings and doesn't care about needy people, the elderly, or anything else.

The truth is you can't tax your way out of it. You can't cut spending around the edges and get out of it, and you can't grow your way out of it. The hole is too deep. It's going to have to be all of the above on some level. Medicaid, Medicare, and SS will fail as structured now and you can't raise taxes alone enough to stop it because we are too far down the road to insolvency in those programs and the government as a whole.

Drastic steps will have to be taken at some point with all government spending and tax policy. This will include everything. The question is will it be when we have some semblance of control or will it be when our hair is on fire and everyone is screaming? My bet is when hair is on fire. Because all our leaders are spineless. One side wants to cut taxes but not really cut spending, thinking that will bring in more money, and one side wants to raise taxes and not even pretend to cut spending. Neither will work. It's simply not enough.

 
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth confirms the Pentagon’s acceptance of a gifted Boeing 747 from Qatar for President Trump’s Air Force One, ensuring proper security measures.
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A huge waste of money, but what's new!
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I'm sure we all aware of the downgrade of the US credit rating. This is just a step along the way. I don't claim to have answers for how to deal with all of these issues.
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The 30yr treasury spike was specifically a reaction to the tax cuts in this bill. The other rating agencies already dropped our rating years ago. When Moody's does it you know the writing is on the wall.

Medicaid is a needed program, but I agree there is abuse and able bodied people are on it that should be told to get a job if they want to keep it. I think the proposal is able bodied adults would need to work 80 hours a month to maintain benefits. That's not much.
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We are tracking to spend 20% of GDP on healthcare soon. European countries spend half that and have higher life expectancies. Cutting programs isn't the anwer and neither is eliminating waste. That is like me saying I'm going to go buy a house with the money i find under my car seat.

We need..... SS to be solvent.
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It is until 2037. Even at that point it is funded at 76%.

Neither will work. It's simply not enough.
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Agreed which is why i think all the "Trump will fix this" or "DOGE will fix this" is ridiculous and anyone who says that I can't take seriously.
 
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So we know we lost $700 billion in tax fraud, yet somehow can't recoup it? I'm going to need an explanation on that. We've paid $2.8 trillion in improper benefits (possibly much higher) since 2003, which covers multiple administrations that include both Democrats and Republicans. Again, why can't we recoup it if we know the benefits were erroneously paid out?

This is how our government, regardless of which party is in office, handles taxpayers' finances yet we've got people pounding their fists on the table thinking we should raise taxes. Hell, they can't even collect the taxes that are currently due, then they double down by paying out trillions in payments that they weren't supposed to pay. LOL! Yeah, let's give these idiots access to more of taxpayers' money. That is a BRILLIANT idea!!!!
 
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So we know we lost $700 billion in tax fraud, yet somehow can't recoup it? I'm going to need an explanation on that. We've paid $2.8 trillion in improper benefits (possibly much higher) since 2003, which covers multiple administrations that include both Democrats and Republicans. Again, why can't we recoup it if we know the benefits were erroneously paid out?
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Legit point.

I'm guessing that some people don't want the money to be recouped because the money would come out of their own pockets. For instance, Trump himself is under an IRS audit as a result of some questionable deductions (resulting in a $72.9 million tax refund) on some tax returns.

www.propublica.org

IRS Audit of Trump Could Cost Former President More Than $100 Million

The tax agency concluded in its long-running investigation that Trump effectively claimed the same massive write-off twice on his failed Chicago tower.
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IRS Audit of Trump Could Cost Former President More Than $100 Million
 
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The 30yr treasury spike was specifically a reaction to the tax cuts in this bill. The other rating agencies already dropped our rating years ago. When Moody's does it you know the writing is on the wall.



We are tracking to spend 20% of GDP on healthcare soon. European countries spend half that and have higher life expectancies. Cutting programs isn't the anwer and neither is eliminating waste. That is like me saying I'm going to go buy a house with the money i find under my car seat.



It is until 2037. Even at that point it is funded at 76%.



Agreed which is why i think all the "Trump will fix this" or "DOGE will fix this" is ridiculous and anyone who says that I can't take seriously.
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The spike was inevitable. The tax cuts and lack of actual spending reductions are just a part of a decades long slide that all lead to the same place. Because no one is serious anymore.

Europe isn't allowing their populations to be poisoned by the food they eat and they aren't giant fat people. Our kids are obese and pre-diabetic. You good with RFK jr. cleaning out the food industry?

Are you ready in 2037 to cut grandma's SS check by 24%? I'm not. You think we can raise taxes that much and just cover it? That will wreck many working families and small businesses. Everything will get more expensive because just like businesses aren't going to eat the tariffs they won't eat a tax increase either. Something has to be done now to work towards solvency for SS and no one is doing anything. Wait until that $2,000 check is $1,500. Let me know how that is received. That's the hair on fire moment.
 
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