Worst call ever in a 'Bama game

[TideHead]

If you watch the replay of the trap br the Ark WR count the number of men on offense, I believe you'll find 12 Ark players. Also, watch the whole series, the trap play was a 5th down.

I believe that the play on which they had 12 men on the field was the second down play. They scored the touchdown on the trapped pass on 4th down, and I don't recall anything about a fifth down. That happened in the Colorado/Missouri game in 1990.

 

[Boclive]

Worst call I ever saw in an Alabama game was Stabler throwing the ball out of bounds (on fourth down) to stop the clock. Not a good call.

A close second was Shaud Williams on fourth and 1 against Tennessee after the same play failed to gain an inch on 2nd and 1 or 3rd and 1. Or whatever defensive call we made that allowed them to convert 4th and 19.

Worst call by referees would have been the fourth quarter and overtime inclusive at Arkansas in 2004. We got jobbed that day.

 

[Capstone46]

Bo,
Man the 4th down clock killing Stabler pass was painful to watch. In defense of Stabler, as you know he thought he had scrambled enough for the first down and was only trying to kill the clock for the chip shot winning field goal. It was more of a miscalculated, desperate reflex rather than a play call. In either case the results were the same. Fortunately, the year ended better than that game.

 

[Pachyderm37]

You know, y'all have just about covered all of the bases on infamous calls against us. No need for me to beat a dead horse. However, the state of officiating in college football on the whole is atrocious. It seems to me that there are very little consequences when officials make real boneheaded calls that are so blatenly wrong. JMHO

:BigA::BigA::BigA:RTR

 

[LCN]

CMP's illegal procedure against "Destiny" . ..... it's rolling , baby .

 

[moorav]

The Penn State game and the LSU Muggin were the worst

If I recall the screen pass to Riddle was the perfect call he just fumbled the ball....Wide open nice execution he fumbled the dadgum ball.

Is my memory bad on that play - wasn't he open, the pass was there and he fumbled...?

 

[FreeBro]

The Penn State game and the LSU Muggin were the worst

If I recall the screen pass to Riddle was the perfect call he just fumbled the ball....Wide open nice execution he fumbled the dadgum ball.

Is my memory bad on that play - wasn't he open, the pass was there and he fumbled...?

I think the screen was to Ed Scissum, the FB from Etowah.

It is much easier to secure a hand-off than a pass.

I think you are saying the players did not execute a well-called play, am I right? Well, that is partially true. The FB should have secured the ball better, but the guy that missed the block in front of him caused the fumble. My point is that 9 out of 10 coaches run the ball in that situation and kill more time off the clock. A screen is best called when a team is expecting a pass, the AU defense was expecting us to run the ball and kill time. It was not the time or the defense to run a screen. Yeah, it was 3rd and long, but their LBs were not playing pass. It was a BAD play CALL!

 

[dvldog]

Iron Bowl were a couple of Bama punts were called. BAD CALLS. Made me sick. Still does.:biggrin2:

 

[moorav]

I never thought of it as a bad call - I know Au was waiting on the run and a screen is used to utilize the pass rush but still all he had to do hold on to the ball.

I guess Darby (Scissum up the middle) would have been the preferred call

A screen is a short pass - it's not that dangerous you expect your players to hold on to the ball whether it's a hand off or completed pass

I just never thought that was bad call it worked to perfection but the boy fumbled the ball. I don't blame the play calling on him fumblin

DuBoses comments afterwards was BAD

I think it was perfect for the defense they were rushing in to tackle the runner & you hit a little screen - a LOT of big screen plays have come against a defense that is selling out on the run

Actually more big plays come from screens where the defense is expecting run than pass. There is not much secondary there to
stop him they are coming up for the run - It may be more succesful against a pass rush but produces much more yardage against a defense stacked against the run

 

[yellowhammer13]

Great thread!! Thanks Guys!!
Conjured up all my old pent up rage from years gone by.... Ugh! I need my pills again.... Will someone please call my therapist......
The nightmares will start again tonight!!! :biggrin::biggrin:

 

[selmaborntidefan]

There are those I haven't seen that I've heard about:

1) 1983 Penn State - I lived in Germany and the game was on over there at something like ten at night. I had church the next am and watched the first half. I think we were down something like 28-7. The next day I saw a fellow Bammer fan in the PX and he told me about it - and we shoulda won. I've never actually seen that play, but I had a Penn State fan I used to trade games with who said Bama got truly screwed that day.

1982 Iron Bowl - the pass interference call against Castille. Without it, Bear goes out a winner in the SEC.

And those that I did (in no particular order):

1990 Sugar Bowl - not once but TWICE we forced Cane fumbles that were called down. On those two fumbles that we stopped them, the Canes got 14 points; we lost by eight in a game we supposedly didn't belong in. Of course, if we'd beaten Miami, we wouldn't have won the national title; the powers that be would have given it to Notre Dame (again).

1995 Arkansas - Now fellas, we still probably should have lost the game. We played terrible and we had bailed out ourselves against both Vandy and USM - we could easily have been 0-2. But first, they had 12 men on the field - a penalty that would have been fifteen yards PLUS a loss of down. And since they scored on fourth from so short, it had the net effect of being a fifth down play. Also, J.J. Meadors' catch/trap - you'd think the refs would bail themselves out by ruling it no catch.

Wally Hall, the village idiot of Little Rock (my horizon at that time), got angry when the SEC suspended the refs for the blown call. He said it looked like the SEC was saying 'Alabama got robbed' when 'what really happened' was Arkansas won.

1995 Auburn - This one killed me. A Texas fan I know called me at work and said it was the best game he'd ever seen. He called after the lousy call and I was throwing things.

2000 Arkansas - Again, the Razorbacks had 12 men on the field - and only kept the ball on a questionable defensive holding call on fourth down.

2003 Arkansas - Anybody notice how many times the Hogs have needed the Zebras to beat us Elephants? That 'excessive celebration' call was a joke.

2004 LSU - Don't get me started since plenty has been said.

 

[USCBAMA]

Glad someone finally mentioned the 1990 Sugar Bowl. Two TERRIBLE no calls on clear Miami fumbles. Both ruled down. Miami seemed to dominate game but Bama hung around and stayed within one score (8-points). Those two missed calls were huge.

Wasn't there another Arky blown call at Arkansas where Bama was called for defensive holding on a 4th & long pass play when there wasn't a Bama defender within 20 yds of the receiver? Was a rain game I believe.

Worst has to be 83 Penn State. That one reeked as there was just no way to view that play and think it was anything but a TD.

 

[TideHead]

Wasn't there another Arky blown call at Arkansas where Bama was called for defensive holding on a 4th & long pass play when there wasn't a Bama defender within 20 yds of the receiver? Was a rain game I believe.

Yeah, the 2000 game. Selma mentions it right above your post. A few plays before that, Arky had 12 men on the field.

 

[FreeBro]

Actually more big plays come from screens where the defense is expecting run than pass. There is not much secondary there to
stop him they are coming up for the run - It may be more succesful against a pass rush but produces much more yardage against a defense stacked against the run

What are you basing this on?

Is this your opinion or do you have something to back this up? Years of watching football do not count.

 

[USCBAMA]

Yeah, the 2000 game. Selma mentions it right above your post. A few plays before that, Arky had 12 men on the field.

Thought I read every post and I missed that one. I remember how painful that game was considering the other Arky officiating miscues in previous years.

This not as memorable as others, but anyone remember the UT game (85 or 86 I think) where the vols were out of timeouts so UT player kept faking an injury to stop clock during much of 4th quarter. Refs just kept letting him do so, probably did it 6 or so times down strecth and it helped UT win. It was obvious what was going on but refs let it go each time, and then the player would be right back in the game the next play. Giving UT 6 extra timeouts in the 4th quarter of a very close game was key in their win. I was at that game and lost my voice yelling about that.

 

[silentsam74]

Is the need for the bathing with the industrial cleaner based fon the recollection of the play or the fact that Arians has the foulest mouth on the planet? He can't say good morning without a couple of F bombs.

If the play had worked, it would have been a first down and the game would have been over. It was a freak fumble with Ed being hit from the back as he turned for the ball behind him. One of the players on the kick block team for the auburn field goal told me after the game that the auburn players were talking to them before the snap about how we had given them the game. The auburn players were laughing about it at the line of scrimmage.

And I'll never forget the way he ran when he got the next kickoff from AU. I dont know if he was mad or sad or what but he ran like a mad man psycho kamikaze and I thought he was going to bring it back on sheer effort and emotion alone. I remember the shots of him after that play. He wasn't hanging his head down but there were tears streaming down his face. I watched that particular Iron Bowl with my mom and I guess both of us felt more sorry for him than being upset at that outcome.

 

[Tidewater]

i agree the non-call vs. the lsu db was bad, we have had some tough ones vs. the other tigers as of late 2004 - lsu player landed on a auburn player after a missed extra point and the mugging of the lsu wr vs. auburn last yr.
i would hope that these things have a way of eveninf themselves out.

LSU - Auburn: The Play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAHL8rCd1RU&mode=related&search=
Gorilla Ball, I have to agree with you that the mugging of the LSU receiver in 06 one was particularly bad.

 

[Fishhead]

I wonder if any of you have a link to the '04 non interference call against LSU. I have read this whole thread, and that one seems to really stick out to ya'll. I went back and checked the final score of the game...LSU 26-Bama 10...and am just wondering how it changed the momentum that much. Not questioning it...just wondering. It is not etched in my memory like it obviously is yours...but I'm sure it would be if the shoe was on the other foot. It's funny, though. I DO remember the Penn St. fiasco in '83...and I was only 13 at the time. Of course, they say the first thing that goes is...uh...oh well, I can't remember.

 

[bamaslaw]

Fish, it used to be on youtube, but I've looked and looked and haven't been able to find it. But I feel I can provide some insight in to how it changed the momentum.

We're up 10-6 after haltime. Our defense is playing well against yall, offense is somewhat moving the ball, and we're inside the five. The pass goes up and... Webster pushes Keith Brown down, intercepts the pass and returns it to around midfield. Yall don't score on that drive, but on a fumble inside our 10 after the punt.

So basically instead of 17-6 and probably average field position, it was 13-10 and the field position was completely swapped.

Would we have won the game in the 4th? I'm not sure, we had a fairly thin team that year. But we did have a good defense and I'm confident the game would have been decided by roughly a field goal.

 

[silentsam74]

I wonder if any of you have a link to the '04 non interference call against LSU. I have read this whole thread, and that one seems to really stick out to ya'll. I went back and checked the final score of the game...LSU 26-Bama 10...and am just wondering how it changed the momentum that much. Not questioning it...just wondering. It is not etched in my memory like it obviously is yours...but I'm sure it would be if the shoe was on the other foot...

I dont have a link. Just a story and some statistics. The game was 10-6 Bama at halftime and also at the time the call was made.

Score by Quarters .... 1 2 3 4 Score
-------------------- -- -- -- -- -----
Alabama Crimson Tide 7 3 0 0 - 10
LSU........................... 0 6 7 13 - 26

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Outlined above are TWO bad calls which, if called correctly, result a net change of 14 points. If nothing changes besides those two plays, the final score is LSU by two points. TWO.

And that's before you consider the two huge momentum swings that those two non-calls made and the fact that LSU gained half of its points and a large portion of it's offensive yardage in the fourth quarter after the aforementioned momentum swings.
Would 'Bama have won if the calls were different? There's no way of knowing -- it would've been a great game to watch. As it stands, though, LSU won with a lot of help from the officials, and there's really no denying that.

Prior to the missed pass interference call:
ALA: 30 plays; 119 yards (3.97 avg)
LSU: 33 plays; 138 yards (4.18 avg)

AFTER the missed interference call:
ALA: 23 plays; 42 yards (1.83 avg)
LSU: 20 plays; 94 yards (4.70 avg)

Total for game:
ALA: 53 plays; 161 yards (3.04 avg)
LSU: 53 plays; 232 yards (4.38 avg)