The Decline of the American Media IV

Of all the people they could have used to generate sympathy for people being deported they chose a guy who killed someone and has been in prison for many years. The only reason he wasn’t deported a long time ago is because he was in prison. A strange hill to die on.

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Yep, otherwise that bonkers narrative that J6 was some white nationalist attack falls apart.

I'm wondering if that's why it took so long to find this guy.

It isn't a bonkers narrative.

You don't have to pretend January 6 was anything less than a bunch of rioters thinking they could overturn an election and keep their guy in office.

Because that's exactly what it was.

Given this is Kash Patel's FBI, I figure it's just as likely he made the whole damn thing up in Trump's attempt to revise history about what 1/6 was. You see, he told me it was Antifa but at the same time he told me it was beautiful people angry about the stolen election (you know - the ones he pardoned).

Come to think of it - isn't this black guy already covered by Trump's blanket pardon?

Or he is a bit too dark to qualify?
 
It isn't a bonkers narrative.

Agreed; it's a BS narrative and always has been.
You don't have to pretend January 6 was anything less than a bunch of rioters thinking they could overturn an election and keep their guy in office.

Because that's exactly what it was.

Those people genuinely believed that an election had been stolen and responded. Was it the right thing to do? Obviously not; I've criticized the J-sixers consistently since the beginning. What they did was an embarrassment to all of us and I've never wavered on that. But to call them insurrectionists is just silly and I've never waivered on that, either. MAGA should have known better than to try and behave like the "Summer of Love" people, but I've never accused them of being particularly bright.
Given this is Kash Patel's FBI, I figure it's just as likely he made the whole damn thing up in Trump's attempt to revise history about what 1/6 was. You see, he told me it was Antifa but at the same time he told me it was beautiful people angry about the stolen election (you know - the ones he pardoned).

What in hell for? It's not like anyone is going to change their minds about that day. IF that's his angle, it will be about as effective as that ridiculous J6 Committee and an absolute waste of time (and money.)
Come to think of it - isn't this black guy already covered by Trump's blanket pardon?

Or he is a bit too dark to qualify?

*Laughs in Lee Harvey Oswald*

Unless they can prove this idiot was working with or for someone with a vested interest in declaring an emergency on Capitol Hill, I can't imagine I'll be following this story that closely.
 
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Trump to ABC's Rachel Scott: "You are the most obnoxious reporter in the whole place. Let me just tell you -- you are an obnoxious-- a terrible reporter. And it's always the same thing with you. I told you."




If the press had any guts or scruples, they'd stand up to this misogynistic embarrassment of a human being, but so far, nothing.
 
Those people genuinely believed that an election had been stolen and responded.

Why did they "believe" that?

Who caused them to believe that, you have any names? I'm curious.

Did they just hear voices in their heads or what exactly?

You also misspelled the word "rioted" - and spare me the "cops let them in" line. If cops let you protest in the streets and you riot, that's on you, not them.



Was it the right thing to do? Obviously not; I've criticized the J-sixers consistently since the beginning. What they did was an embarrassment to all of us

No, it was an embarrassment to them, their mothers, and their employers, who fired them for....checks notes..."a field trip that got out of hand.


and I've never wavered on that. But to call them insurrectionists is just silly

Insurrection - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

I mean, we had a President who didn't know what the definition of "is" or "sex" was, and we all laughed. But that actually was comedy compared to the insurrection.


and I've never waivered on that, either. MAGA should have known better than to try and behave like the "Summer of Love" people, but I've never accused them of being particularly bright.

It's funny how "all the dummies voted for Donald Trump" continues to accumulate evidence.




What in hell for? It's not like anyone is going to change their minds about that day.

This is called "being in a cult."

"Let's provide an alternative narrative and act like they're both the same" is what people guilty of crimes do. It's what defense attorneys do for guys they know damn well did it.

IF that's his angle, it will be about as effective as that ridiculous J6 Committee and an absolute waste of time (and money.)

They should have billed the rioters for the fact they had it in the first place.




*Laughs in Lee Harvey Oswald*

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
Oswald shot Kennedy, the end.

Unless they can prove this idiot was working with or for someone with a vested interest in declaring an emergency on Capitol Hill, I can't imagine I'll be following this story that closely.

What's funny is how much this follows the Roy Cohn/Joe McCarthy/Donald Trump "create an alternative reality and confuse folks."
 
If the press had any guts or scruples, they'd stand up to this misogynistic embarrassment of a human being, but so far, nothing.

Quite frankly, I long for the day a male reporter walks right up and kicks Loud Mouth in the nuts on national TV. He's "tough" for the same reason a Mafia don sitting behind a bunch of bodyguards is "tough."

(He was too patriotic to do it, but Mattis could have jacked this guy up with one slug).
 
Why did they "believe" that?

Who caused them to believe that, you have any names? I'm curious.

Did they just hear voices in their heads or what exactly?

You also misspelled the word "rioted" - and spare me the "cops let them in" line. If cops let you protest in the streets and you riot, that's on you, not them.

LOL, no one did. When America woke up the next morning after election day and saw what happened when they slept, they didn't need talking heads on TV or an angry so-to-be ex-prez telling them what to think. They knew exactly what they thought happened. Message boards and social media was lit up like an angry, toxic Christmas tree in Tromaville. If you managed to miss all that, I sure as hell don't know how. The outrage only grew as it became obvious to them nothing was going to happen.

As I've said countless times, I don't really trust election outcomes and even if I did, it would change nothing. The table is almost always tilted by only having two Uniparty muppets on the ballot.
No, it was an embarrassment to them, their mothers, and their employers, who fired them for....checks notes..."a field trip that got out of hand.

It certainly wasn't that, I agree. This was as intentional as intentional gets. Ergo, all those FBI agents intermingled in the crowd. They weren't there to stop this from happening, so I admit to be curious about what they really were there for.
Insurrection - an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

I mean, we had a President who didn't know what the definition of "is" or "sex" was, and we all laughed. But that actually was comedy compared to the insurrection.

So every time someone tries to burn down a courthouse or trespasses into a state assembly to yell and scream, they're committing an insurrection? Why was no one charged with this crime?
It's funny how "all the dummies voted for Donald Trump" continues to accumulate evidence.

A similar statement can be made about any establishment GOP/DEM voter on any given day. The mid-terms will be a lot of fun for this reason alone. And of course, just in case they were feeling left out, there's also the looney woke-left. Three groups, all morons.
This is called "being in a cult."

So the people who pretend to believe the J6 Committee (as if anyone out there actually does) are also in a cult? They are just as unlikely to be moved by any evidence that contrasts the narratives they prefer. Don't get me wrong, I'm good with using the "cult" analogy, but lets not pretend that one side is worse than the other. I've met my fair share of nutty Trumpers out there, but the anti-Trumpers actually come off as worse in many cases. Just let the subject of Trump come up in literally any context and watch them sudden transform from perfectly rational people into a complete psychotic who is completely off his/her meds. This is why I avoid the topic altogether away from message boards. People are just too emotionally invested in this crap.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
Oswald shot Kennedy, the end.

Oswald is the unofficial "face" of conspiracy theories. The big one is that J6 was supposed to happen so an emergency could be declared to bypass the usual rules for election certification. If the people didn't respond to Ray Epps' push for a riot (or if the undercover agents failed at same) then a solid Plan B was needed. A pipe bomb (real or not) would be just the ticket.

I realize how crazy all this sounds, but it's no less ridiculous than the idea that person like Joe Biden set an election record of 81 million votes. I'm not saying he didn't win fair and square, but I'll never believe that retarded claim. In any case, my reference to Oswald had nothing to do with JFK.
What's funny is how much this follows the Roy Cohn/Joe McCarthy/Donald Trump "create an alternative reality and confuse folks."

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LOL, no one did. When America woke up the next morning after election day and saw what happened when they slept, they didn't need talking heads on TV or an angry so-to-be ex-prez telling them what to think.

What did they see happen?

You mean like when Pennsylvania WAITED UNTIL AFTER ALL THE BALLOTS WERE CAST to start counting because that's exactly what the REPUBLICANS in the state wanted? Do you actually think ten people across this country that went to DC knew that important detail?


They knew exactly what they thought happened.

You mean after months of the Fattest Loser saying it over and over.....


Message boards and social media was lit up like an angry, toxic Christmas tree in Tromaville. If you managed to miss all that, I sure as hell don't know how. The outrage only grew as it became obvious to them nothing was going to happen.

You're literally saying right here these emotional misfits cannot process basic common sense.
Why should anything have happened?

And I'll say it again: why were none of these Rhodes Scholar Short Bus scholarship winners capable of thinking for one second, "You know, if Cheeto Jeezus cannot keep an election from being stolen while everyone is sitting at home, why in the hell would I ever vote for him to keep me safe from Willie Horton and other brown people?"


As I've said countless times, I don't really trust election outcomes and even if I did, it would change nothing. The table is almost always tilted by only having two Uniparty muppets on the ballot.

I can't even process what's being said here.


It certainly wasn't that, I agree. This was as intentional as intentional gets. Ergo, all those FBI agents intermingled in the crowd. They weren't there to stop this from happening, so I admit to be curious about what they really were there for.

Tell me you don't know what "infiltration" means without saying it.


So every time someone tries to burn down a courthouse or trespasses into a state assembly to yell and scream, they're committing an insurrection?

No, but maybe Ray Bolger can sing his little tune here in celebration of the straw man....:)

Why was no one charged with this crime?

Because - and Google is your friend - you have to prove criminal intent and most of these people were two steps from asking if you'd like fries with that at the local Dairy Queen. Most of these Emmy Award winners brought their cell phones and incriminated themselves in easily provable crimes.



So the people who pretend to believe the J6 Committee (as if anyone out there actually does) are also in a cult? They are just as unlikely to be moved by any evidence that contrasts the narratives they prefer. Don't get me wrong, I'm good with using the "cult" analogy, but lets not pretend that one side is worse than the other. I've met my fair share of nutty Trumpers out there, but the anti-Trumpers actually come off as worse in many cases. Just let the subject of Trump come up in literally any context and watch them sudden transform from perfectly rational people into a complete psychotic who is completely off his/her meds. This is why I avoid the topic altogether away from message boards. People are just too emotionally invested in this crap.

Again - this is what Trump has done to folks.

You're actually wanting someone to think that your ALLEGATION that apparently the J6 committee did....well, something, you don't really say WHAT (this is part of the Trumpian magic act - the power is in the allegation being as vague as possible)........is the same as thousands of idiots who apparently didn't bother to listen in Civics class actually thinking "Mike Pence can undo this with one word"?

Seriously?

If the J6 committee created a scaffold with "Hang Whomever," we can have an equivalent discussion.

Oswald is the unofficial "face" of conspiracy theories.

That's because a bunch of people who never even bothered to read the official investigation came up with alternative opinions to it.

The big one is that J6 was supposed to happen so an emergency could be declared to bypass the usual rules for election certification. If the people didn't respond to Ray Epps' push for a riot (or if the undercover agents failed at same) then a solid Plan B was needed. A pipe bomb (real or not) would be just the ticket.

See, I can't even follow it because this is nothing but a bunch of "look over here, look over there."

And btw - my former classmate at the seminary called for Trump to impose martial law, so let's not act like this was some far-fetched thought.

I realize how crazy all this sounds, but it's no less ridiculous than the idea that person like Joe Biden set an election record of 81 million votes. I'm not saying he didn't win fair and square, but I'll never believe that retarded claim.

So you have a belief and no reason for it, no evidence supporting it, and you've already sealed off any willingness to say the words "I was wrong."

Like I said - cult.

Folks - I'm done at this point on this subject at least for now.
 
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