If You Could Pursuade CNO to do One Thing Differently...

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We've been watching his progression for several years now. If you had his attention and could persuade him to try one new approach, what would it be???

Here's mine:

Considering all the accomplishments, we seem to have one weakness from year to year: Getting owned in the paint and around the rim when the 3s don't fall!

This impacts us on defense and offense in various ways:

On Defense, we struggle to rebound against a lot of teams and especially those who have big, bulky Power Forwards and Centers. As a result, they get a lot of 2nd chance, garbage points.

On offense, very often it's those same teams that do a good job of rim protection and cutting off our dribble drive passing lanes to open shooters on the perimeter. And even if we get off 3s, if we get cold, they gobble up rebounds and our offense sputters.

I know that CNO wants 4s and 5s who can shoot ("5 guys who are positionless"), but this often means those guys are less bulky and/or aggressive and those players look more like a wiry Bol Bowen or Bristow or they are more passive like Sherrell or Williamson.

So if I could persuade CNO to do one thing differently, it would be to concede that every one of his teams needs a true 5 or 4 who is big, bulky and can hold their own at the rim and they believe rebounding is as fun as eating juicy steaks! And, then when we are having one of those nights when we can't throw a 3 into the ocean, we might have a guy who we could put on the post to get us a few 2s and/or 3s the old-fashioned way.

We've talked about CKD needing to understand the need to improve the running attack potential in view of his offensive MO. I think until we see CNO make a pivot to having at least 1 guy a year like the one I described, I'm not sure we can get through March to April and win it all. The Dukes and Purdues have proven we need an adjustment to the plan.

FWIW, we don't have that guy this year. Will we ever under CNO?
 
Nate has forgotten more about hoops than I will ever know so I am not telling him a thing. If you were ever to find yourself in a private conversation with him I guarantee he knows what you are saying is true but recruiting players is imperfect at best and very costly as we know. He has the program on solid footing and I am very proud of this coach and what he has built. Please stay the course Coach!
 
Nate has forgotten more about hoops than I will ever know so I am not telling him a thing. If you were ever to find yourself in a private conversation with him I guarantee he knows what you are saying is true but recruiting players is imperfect at best and very costly as we know. He has the program on solid footing and I am very proud of this coach and what he has built. Please stay the course Coach!
Of course he has...but we've found this to be an issue every year and at least a couple of times it's cost us a season ending game!

I'll never say a word to Nate so this is of course hypothetical. It's discussion board fodder!
 
To be fair he tried with Cliff, Beds and this year with Onyejiaka. But do agree need the big, probably two in case of injury.
I'm talking about being a guy we must target (and probably pay). Cliff nor Beds fits the description of a big, inside banger!

Maybe the reclassified freshman could have helped, but I'm talking about taking a guy who is a real difference maker; not a project type player with potential.
 
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I think the big men and the timeout issues are spot on. The only other thing I would suggest is to press more. We hardly ever press and we don’t do a good job of harassing people and forcing turnovers on defense. Especially in games where we are not shooting the three well, a good press or trapping defense might give us more possessions through turnovers to keep us in the game.
 
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Go pull a football player on the bench for conference play to help with rebounding. This would be a better option than Williamson.
 
Honestly, who is to say he hasn’t tried recruiting a big man to bang inside? Those types don’t exactly fit this type of offense. We attract shooters with the green light to fog it up from behind the line and who are able to run the floor. Big OLine type bodies to play inside don’t run the floor at the pace we’d need them to.
 
Honestly, who is to say he hasn’t tried recruiting a big man to bang inside? Those types don’t exactly fit this type of offense. We attract shooters with the green light to fog it up from behind the line and who are able to run the floor. Big OLine type bodies to play inside don’t run the floor at the pace we’d need them to.
Right, it's why it's outside the box for his offensive MO.

But, Sherrell might shoot 3s but he's not exactly zipping up and down the court with his size.
 
Honestly, who is to say he hasn’t tried recruiting a big man to bang inside? Those types don’t exactly fit this type of offense. We attract shooters with the green light to fog it up from behind the line and who are able to run the floor. Big OLine type bodies to play inside don’t run the floor at the pace we’d need them to.
I was about to hit post on a similar reply and decided I should check the thread. Yours covers it. It seems like it would be hard to sign a couple of these mythical big bangers when they'd know ahead of time that they're only there for periodic, situational use.
 
I was about to hit post on a similar reply and decided I should check the thread. Yours covers it. It seems like it would be hard to sign a couple of these mythical big bangers when they'd know ahead of time that they're only there for periodic, situational use.
I'm not at all suggesting periodic and situational use. I'm thinking like 20 minutes a game or more.

For instance, this year, when Sherrell is not in the game, this 5 would be. Help with rebounding, rim protection, second chance points, etc. When the 3's are falling and it's hard to get to the rim, give him a few chances down low.
 
I probably should have added this in the OP, but I've been fully behind CNO from the beginning and there have been plenty of times I've defended his vision for his 5s in past years when others were saying we need a real 5.

And I'm not suggesting a 5 who can shoot (like Sherrell) won't work. However, the problem seems to be that Sherrell, despite his size, isn't that strong and aggressive around the rim. A guy like him could ideally, be a combo of the perfect 5 for CNO; a guy who can shoot but also give you an occasional post up down low. But we are in CNO's sixth year and he's not been able to find that mythical 5 that perfectly fits his vision. The truth is, these guys are very, very rare.

So, that's the background of this post. I'm not saying a wholesale change. Simply a slight adjustment for recruiting 5s.
 
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It means, Alabama fans don’t deserve him. And we keep proving it. So I hope he ignores stuff like this.

But it’s a valid thread I just hope he ignores arm-chair experts and does his thing.
I'm very grateful and happy he's our coach. But that doesn't mean there aren't areas to tweak and improve. He's human.
 
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