BREAKING Alabama Expected to Hire Adrian Klemm as OL Coach

[Snuffy Smith]

I didn't see a thread on the new hire, so I started one. I agree on all your points. I think this is some very positive news for the OL and running game!!!

Thanks Moon!
I was too lazy to do that this morning

 

[cdub55]

A lot of OL blocking schemes try to get downfield blocking advantages with big bodies. In order to do that, they won't have a blocker for the backside of a running play. It allows one of the linemen on the play side to release from the line early and start going downfield to pickup a LB or safety. To do that, linemen have to shift to the playside on who they block, leaving the backside hole unaccounted for. I've listened to former players who are now on air analyst, point this out during broadcasts.

Anytime a backside down lineman isn't blocked it is due to it being a read play, think zone read, or the play being run outside of the tackles, think wide zone (outside zone). Due to the proximity of the backside DE, if he were to be left unblocked he would almost inevitably make the tackle on most any play not run outside of the tackles. On almost all gap scheme plays the backside DE is blocked unless he is being read except for counter without an attached TE or Hback. Not being argumentative, just giving clarification on what you are referring to.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Anytime a backside down lineman isn't blocked it is due to it being a read play, think zone read, or the play being run outside of the tackles, think wide zone (outside zone). Due to the proximity of the backside DE, if he were to be left unblocked he would almost inevitably make the tackle on most any play not run outside of the tackles. On almost all gap scheme plays the backside DE is blocked unless he is being read except for counter without an attached TE or Hback. Not being argumentative, just giving clarification on what you are referring to.

No! I don't mind at all. I'm a baseball coach not football. So I'm always up for someone who knows explaining something to me. It helps me learn. Thank you for the clarification.

 

[gtgilbert]

I suspect (again not knowing much about OL schemes) that the Seahawks were employing zone blocking schemes, which seems to play toward Walker's strength of hesitation and then hitting the open hole.

Much of our problem last year was RBs vision. There were times we had gaping holes and the RBs refused to run into them and #26 was the worst offender, which didn't make sense to me with his seniority.

But if they were leaving a free rusher from the end to pull (like we did at times) I don't think his hesitation tendency would work as well. One thing for sure, the Seahawks were getting some push off the LOS. Our guys didn't last year and that's one reason it seemed our RBs were running up into their backs because their backs were getting pushed into the back field.

This is an excellent point. Because we so often left guys unblocked (on purpose, mostly) there was very little time for patience because the RB knows there's a free guy who will start to close the gap soon. No patience, hard to use vision to try to find where the hole is going to open up.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

This is an excellent point. Because we so often left guys unblocked (on purpose, mostly) there was very little time for patience because the RB knows there's a free guy who will start to close the gap soon. No patience, hard to use vision to try to find where the hole is going to open up.

We also didn't have any backs whose strength was being able to find the hole fast enough and hitting it at full speed. The two running backs for Indiana were excellent at doing this, they'd get the ball and were able to identify the right hole and get through it without breaking stride. That is a talent not all running backs have. You have some who purposely hesitate in the back field because that's how they find the hole best, then others are able to find and even anticipate the hole while never breaking stride.

 

[gtgilbert]

Anytime a backside down lineman isn't blocked it is due to it being a read play, think zone read, or the play being run outside of the tackles, think wide zone (outside zone). Due to the proximity of the backside DE, if he were to be left unblocked he would almost inevitably make the tackle on most any play not run outside of the tackles. On almost all gap scheme plays the backside DE is blocked unless he is being read except for counter without an attached TE or Hback. Not being argumentative, just giving clarification on what you are referring to.

well, now you are talking about how it SHOULD be done (which I agree with), but then we all saw it happen so many times last year where we intentionally left a player unblocked who wasn't a read/react guy we were triggering off of. mind-boggling...

 

[bamaga]

That's a myth, others have checkbooks too.

The best recruiters still getting the best talent to the top schools.

Thats not a myth, the teams with the most NIL money top the lists in transfer portal, and in HS recruiting . And the GM is huge in that.

 

[BamaMoon]

Man, it makes my head hurt when I remember plays like a 3rd and 1 or 2 and I knew if we handed the ball off we probably wouldn't make it.

The OL hardly ever moved the LOS backwards and our RBs never seemed to find a crease, much less a hole.

I just think it's exciting knowing we are completely starting over with new players on the OL, two new coaches with expertise, and a stud freshman running back (and a couple returning players with a lot of potential ...Hill and Deer) that gives us a lot of optimism that we'll see some positive change in this part of the offense.

 

[tideindc]

Man, it makes my head hurt when I remember plays like a 3rd and 1 or 2 and I knew if we handed the ball off we probably wouldn't make it.

The OL hardly ever moved the LOS backwards and our RBs never seemed to find a crease, much less a hole.

I just think it's exciting knowing we are completely starting over with new players on the OL, two new coaches with expertise, and a stud freshman running back (and a couple returning players with a lot of potential ...Hill and Deer) that gives us a lot of optimism that we'll see some positive change in this part of

 

[tideindc]

Maybe. Or maybe our 5* freshman back won’t play much as he “hasn’t picked up blocking schemes” and our new OL from the portal , none of whom were impact players last year, fail to be good for us….
At this point, I’m gonna have to see to believe. Hope you’re right, of course.

 

[rolltide7854]

Man, it makes my head hurt when I remember plays like a 3rd and 1 or 2 and I knew if we handed the ball off we probably wouldn't make it.

The OL hardly ever moved the LOS backwards and our RBs never seemed to find a crease, much less a hole.

I just think it's exciting knowing we are completely starting over with new players on the OL, two new coaches with expertise, and a stud freshman running back (and a couple returning players with a lot of potential ...Hill and Deer) that gives us a lot of optimism that we'll see some positive change in this part of the offense.

I had more confidence in us picking up a 3rd and 8 than I did picking up 3rd and half yard.

 

[TideMan09]

So this is where Im supposed to say.....great hire, let's see what happens.

Great hire....let's see what happens. DeBoer going all in on fixing the run game that isnt a focal point of his offensive philosophy anyway.

Yup..I have a feeling the only way to fix this mess of a running, starts in the weight room, we've got to relearn the physicality part of running the ball & that's learned in the weight room or during two a day practices with a more physical type mindset..JMO

 

[Rocky Mtn Bob]

Yup..I have a feeling the only way to fix this mess of a running, starts in the weight room, we've got to relearn the physicality part of running the ball & that's learned in the weight room or during two a day practices with a more physical type mindset..JMO

Wasn't it Hershel Walker who avoided the weights and did only calisthenics? As I recall he was pretty good at this game....

 

[Con]

Wasn't it Hershel Walker who avoided the weights and did only calisthenics? As I recall he was pretty good at this game....

That is always what they said about him. He did lots of pushups.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Wasn't it Hershel Walker who avoided the weights and did only calisthenics? As I recall he was pretty good at this game....

Good point. His calisthenics were probably plyometrics which definitely add to fast twitchiness and explosiveness.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Good point. His calisthenics were probably plyometrics which definitely add to fast twitchiness and explosiveness.

I never in my life thought I would see those 2 words used in the same sentence on TideFans

 

[TiderJack]

That is always what they said about him. He did lots of pushups.

Yes on the pushups. He said he would watch TV and when a commercial break would come on he would pump out 100 reps. Do that 8-10 times a day/night you are going to get strong.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Wasn't it Hershel Walker who avoided the weights and did only calisthenics? As I recall he was pretty good at this game....

Hershel also won the gene pool lottery. He could probably never lift one weight and still be strong as an ox where as 1,000 other athletes who tried to do it that way would have never made it as far as they did if they did what Hershel did.

 

[mlh]

Hershel also won the gene pool lottery. He could probably never lift one weight and still be strong as an ox where as 1,000 other athletes who tried to do it that way would have never made it as far as they did if they did what Hershel did.

^^ This ^^

 

[TideMan09]

Wasn't it Hershel Walker who avoided the weights and did only calisthenics? As I recall he was pretty good at this game....

Can't argue that my friend, buttttt, there's not any Hershel Walker type RB right now at Bama..

He had the biggest neck & legs I've ever seen on a human being..He was a human battering ram..
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