Bama Game Thread: MBB - Bama at Georgia - Tues Mar 3 - 5:30pm CST ESPNews

[BamaHoopsBoi]

I don't recall what the change was...but it sounds familiar. I'm thinking Herb Jones was a master at this (or maybe it was another player).

Your post, however, coincides with a running discussion of how CNO needs to adjust in some areas. All great coaches learn how to do this...Coach Bryant going to the Wishbone in the 70's to how CNS opened to recruiting passing QBs and having OCs that were more creative on offense.

I think this is where CNO is in his coaching development. Opposing teams have adjusted to how they defend us and, as you mention, some rules have changed and/or teams have figured out our defensive tendencies.

For instance, one thing I've noticed is how we pretty much dare teams to take the 12-15 foot jumper off the high screen. Perhaps CNO's analytics plays into this because he feels as though that is the least productive shot in basketball, but this I know, we regularly allow good shooting guards to feast on that shot.

Maybe CNO wants other teams to take that shot because he knows we don't have the rim protector he normally wants. Sherrell has his talents but jumping isn't one of them!

At any rate, good post. These are the kind of discussions that make this board more interesting during the season!

You are correct on Herb, when I think of taking a charge he is the first one that I think of.

I agree about the mid range shots. They are always open. In crunch time they always seem to fall for the other team.

I seem to remember that we used to trap a lot more on ball screens before we ran out. I feel we don't generate nearly enough turnovers to get into fast breaks like we did in CNO early years. Maybe this was an adjustment on his part?

Another adjustment seems like it will be on the horizon. I'm not sure how much longer we will be able to compete deep into the tournament with the size and strength of our roster. We have to grab rebounds when it matters and those seem to be up to chance when they come off the rim.

 

[BamaMoon]

Okay, ya'll are right -- lol -- damn!

We suck! We should give up! Our rebounding is horrible. We whiffed in the portal. We aren't trying. Nate's isn't Wimp or CM. Philon Dribbles too much. Wrightsell can't stay healthy. on and on and on...

Sometimes you just have to laugh out loud at how far some of our fans go to be negative. It just gets comical after a while. It is exhausting...

Come on man, we are talking about ways our team needs to improve.

Nobody said we suck and that CNO isn't the best coach we ever had. But if we want to win the SEC and go deep in MM, we need some of these improvements...especially rebounding.

Can we not talk about Bama basketball on this board? Serious question.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Come on man, we are talking about ways our team needs to improve.

Nobody said we suck and that CNO isn't the best coach we ever had. But if we want to win the SEC and go deep in MM, we need some of these improvements...especially rebounding.

Can we not talk about Bama basketball on this board? Serious question.

Of course you can. You can also expect to get pushed back on things.

Our style is not conducive to out rebounding our opponents by 20.

Our style is not to hold people to 55 points a game

If all we wanna focus on is how they can improve, at least point out ways to improve based on the style we play

I’m tired of seeing the same comments over and over

No one is saying you can’t make them

But I’m going to push back when it becomes obsessive

Disagreement does not mean anyone is shutting down anything

I’ve even allowed people to complain all they want after the game

And if you want to complain during the game, you have a thread for that

 

[BAMARICH]

Of course you can. You can also expect to get pushed back on things.

Our style is not conducive to out rebounding our opponents by 20.

Our style is not to hold people to 55 points a game

If all we wanna focus on is how they can improve, at least point out ways to improve based on the style we play

I’m tired of seeing the same comments over and over

No one is saying you can’t make them

But I’m going to push back when it becomes obsessive

Disagreement does not mean anyone is shutting down anything

I’ve even allowed people to complain all they want after the game

And if you want to complain during the game, you have a thread for that

No one has ever said we should hold people to 55 points… every single person here knows our style isn’t conducive to that. The major way we can improve is through effort. Rebounding on both ends, guarding the perimeter, fighting over ball screens, etc. requires effort.

I’ve had a family member that’s required constant care the past 72 hours… so I haven’t watched the UGA game. If it’s like several other games though (even some we’ve won), effort isn’t what it should be in several aspects and it’s not acceptable to Nate Oats either.

As far as the rebounding goes, CNO didn’t comment on it after the UT game - that’s not appropriate after a gritty win. However, I will guarantee he emphasized it in the UGA prep this week. After the loss, he mentioned it in the presser and it’s really a message to the team - not to us.

I think something needs to be said given that criticism seems controversial. No one believes CNO is terrible and no one thinks the team/players are terrible. However, just minimal improvement in some areas can yield big results for this team. The small defensive improvement in the 2nd half of the UT game allowed us to win. At the end of the day this isn’t about a CNO system… it’s about a broken NCAA system that has made motivation much more complicated.

 

[BamaMoon]

Of course you can. You can also expect to get pushed back on things.

Our style is not conducive to out rebounding our opponents by 20.

Our style is not to hold people to 55 points a game

If all we wanna focus on is how they can improve, at least point out ways to improve based on the style we play

Every comment I've made about improvements/adjustments are based on the way we play.

I've never said CNO isn't great/best ever for us, I've never said I want to change our style...I love it! I would have loved to play in it, as a player. But you respond to many of my post as if I'm constantly saying these things???

Also, I've never suggested anything about holding teams to 55 a game OR outrebounding every team by 20.

I think you misunderstand my posts as hating on CNO or the team or hating our style...it's none of those things. It baffles me, honestly. All I want to discuss is our improvement. That's all.

And, it seems the majority of the posters are enjoying the discussions.

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

Obsessive? I don't think that's fair.

Many of us here grew up with basketball, played the game, coached the game at some level, and are seriously invested in our team’s success. We know what we're seeing, and we come here to discuss the good and the bad surrounding the program we love.

In commenting, we also take our cues from a credible source — Nate Oats.

No Alabama coach in the past 60 years has been more candid and as openly critical of his players as he has. No one comes close to the bar he has set for himself and his team.

So what are we arguing about? I’ll bet $100 right now that Nate appreciates people caring enough to come here and discuss the issues -- rebounding and defense to name two -- that he has been hammering at all year.

He is building a program. He also is tutoring a community of fans to support it.

 

[BamaMoon]

Obsessive? I don't think that's fair.

Many of us here grew up with basketball, played the game, coached the game at some level, and are seriously invested in our team’s success. We know what we're seeing, and we come here to discuss the good and the bad surrounding the program we love.

In commenting, we also take our cues from a credible source — Nate Oats.

No Alabama coach in the past 60 years has been more candid and as openly critical of his players as he has. No one comes close to the bar he has set for himself and his team.

So what are we arguing about? I’ll bet $100 right now that Nate appreciates people caring enough to come here and discuss the issues -- rebounding and defense to name two -- that he has been hammering at all year.

He is building a program. He also is tutoring a community of fans to support it.

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