Trump attacks Iran (was "Help is on the way")
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I hope someone can reach him and educate him on what happened the last time we were instrumental in installing a government. It is the best way to make sure the Iranian people would never accept it...
Pete Hegseth Treats Fallen American Soldiers as a PR Problem
His use of the Iran-war dead to attack the media was disgraceful.
www.theatlantic.com
Pete Hegseth Treats Fallen American Soldiers as a PR Problem
His use of the Iran-war dead to attack the media was disgraceful.
He is, after all, a second-string Fox newsreader. What kind of intelligence and judgment would you expect him to have? Like his boss, he presents you with a whole different head of hair with each appearance. Think a bit about what type of individual does that and what's important to him...Pete Hegseth Treats Fallen American Soldiers as a PR Problem
His use of the Iran-war dead to attack the media was disgraceful.
Pete Hegseth Treats Fallen American Soldiers as a PR Problem
His use of the Iran-war dead to attack the media was disgraceful.
Leavitt on reports that Russia is sharing intelligence with Iran to help them target US assets: "Whether or not this happened, frankly, it does not really matter"
I read that and my eyes fell out of my head due to the eye roll. Stupid has no boundaries.
There are a couple of ambiguous concepts being thrown around.
One is "nuclear weapons program." If by that, we mean a self-sustaining program with the ability to refine weapons grade uranium" then I think that was eliminated in the summer. If we mean "the ability to conventionally detonate an amount of refined uranium sufficient to make an real mess of Tel Aviv or New York," then that is another matter. That is a lot easier. All it takes is a big conventional bomb and a certain amount of uranium (not necessarily refined to weapons grade). If Witkoff is to be believed, the Iranians said they had enough for eleven atomic bombs (the IAEA head quoted a similar amount), If I was the Iranian leader, I would not have stored my accumulated uranium at the same place it was purified, so last summer might not have gotten existing stockpiles. Hopefully, the Mossad handed us the lat/longs of the storage facility.
Next is "regime change." If we mean, "installing a Jeffersonian democracy," then that ain't happening, as long as Iranians live in Iran. If we mean, "Iran gets a new chief cleric and the people have a chance to erect some Iranian semblance of democracy, should they take advantage of the opportunity," then we are about as close as we ever will be.
I really hope nobody is fool enough to plan deploying tens of thousands of US soldiers to Iran to impose a government. It did not work in Iraq and Iran is a lot bigger.
One is "nuclear weapons program." If by that, we mean a self-sustaining program with the ability to refine weapons grade uranium" then I think that was eliminated in the summer. If we mean "the ability to conventionally detonate an amount of refined uranium sufficient to make an real mess of Tel Aviv or New York," then that is another matter. That is a lot easier. All it takes is a big conventional bomb and a certain amount of uranium (not necessarily refined to weapons grade). If Witkoff is to be believed, the Iranians said they had enough for eleven atomic bombs (the IAEA head quoted a similar amount), If I was the Iranian leader, I would not have stored my accumulated uranium at the same place it was purified, so last summer might not have gotten existing stockpiles. Hopefully, the Mossad handed us the lat/longs of the storage facility.
Next is "regime change." If we mean, "installing a Jeffersonian democracy," then that ain't happening, as long as Iranians live in Iran. If we mean, "Iran gets a new chief cleric and the people have a chance to erect some Iranian semblance of democracy, should they take advantage of the opportunity," then we are about as close as we ever will be.
I really hope nobody is fool enough to plan deploying tens of thousands of US soldiers to Iran to impose a government. It did not work in Iraq and Iran is a lot bigger.
My hesitation here is that we have not declared war on Iran and this vessel was nowhere near the action.
good think we're not in a war
www.nbcnewyork.com
U.S. is ‘not at war,' House Speaker Mike Johnson says
House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters today that the U.S. is “not at war” and has “no intention of being at war” after the House rejected a war powers resolution, essentially green-lighting the Trump administration’s Iran operations.
www.nbcnewyork.com
Thomas Massie reacts to Mike Johnson saying "we are not at war" with Iran
The Kentucky Republican criticized the House speaker's comments that were made after lawmakers blocked a war powers resolution.
www.newsweek.com
I think India is protesting to much. Maybe because of oil? I really find it hard to believe a warship is completely disarmed. Maybe offloaded offensive weapons, but not defensive systems . If the USNavy participated in the celebration, I’m willing to stake everything the warship would not be helpless.
i would imagine getting troops in and supporting them would be a good bit tougher too
no clue what their motivations are. the folks in the stuff i put up seemed not to be the folks in charge, so they may just be making noise. i don't have any clue about the relationship/interaction of india and iran
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yes, while true, Iran has declared war on the U.S., and has attacked 8 U.S. friendly/frenemy countries . Given their indiscriminate missile launches, and their declaration , it was an appropriate action.
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Unfortunately, I am No expert, but looking at the satellite photos, it is pretty certain the US or Israel killed those little girls at the school. The 4 IRGC buildings in the compound were struck in similar fashion. It would have been a remarkable , precision air strike if it were not so heartbreaking. I’m sure an aircrew somewhere are horrified at what they have done. If only Hegseth would come out and admit it, and offer condolences to the Iranian people.
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Just like Korea, Vietnam and Iraq, who we weren't in a war with.good think we're not in a war
U.S. is ‘not at war,' House Speaker Mike Johnson says
House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters today that the U.S. is “not at war” and has “no intention of being at war” after the House rejected a war powers resolution, essentially green-lighting the Trump administration’s Iran operations.
whiskey pete’s callous and smug indifference is disgusting
The more I watch and listen to the Trump/MAGA parade, the more frightened I am for our country. These idiots have their collective finger on nuclear weapons--and seemingly think they are beyond all oversight. This is akin to giving the school yard bully and his cronies a free rein to do whatever they jolly well want. Thank you John Roberts and your sycophants. I don't think I need to write on or I may use words that would get me a suspension.
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