Well, they were right. It certainly didn't end well.
2024 Presidential Election VIII
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Well then there is your legitimate reason to vote for her. The identity politics nonsense should be jettisoned.
I just got TW's vote of confidence. That means getting fired is just around the corner.
Trump has a stump speech and repeats everything he says each and every time he goes out in front of a crowd.
Of course he's mentally incapable of following a script or of staying on topic so he meanders and rambles like the old man he is about whatever is running through his mind at the moment without a filter to stop the things he maybe should hold inside. But he still repeats the same things over and over in speech after speech.
And no more people are voting for Harris simply because she is a woman than are voting for Trump simply because he is white or a man or because they don't think a woman can handle being president. Those are stupid reasons to vote for or against someone too, but Trumpers and totally nots never say anything about that.
Trump has a stump speech and repeats everything he says each and every time he goes out in front of a crowd.
Of course he's mentally incapable of following a script or of staying on topic so he meanders and rambles like the old man he is about whatever is running through his mind at the moment without a filter to stop the things he maybe should hold inside. But he still repeats the same things over and over in speech after speech.
And no more people are voting for Harris simply because she is a woman than are voting for Trump simply because he is white or a man or because they don't think a woman can handle being president. Those are stupid reasons to vote for or against someone too, but Trumpers and totally nots never say anything about that.
Actually, there are many people who will vote against Trump solely because he is a white male.
Watched a short video this morining about the declining percent of Republican votes in Texas. We all have suspected this watching the close votes in previous Ted Cruz re-election campaigns. The video goes on to discuss how a large percent of Texas's growth has been to the Austin area and has trended heavily Democratic in addition to Hispanic votes that have trended to be majority Democratic . Obviously when Texas becomes a swing state it will end the solid red wall that has existed since the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.
Yeah, well, that's a stupid reason too.
I can admit it and agree with someone I usually don't agree with about other things.
As a fiscal conservative I have a lot of reservations about big government social programs but consider the comments about Trump being better for the economy to be complete fabrication.
I vote for Harris because I think Trump is an out and out liar and that is one of his better traits. Deep down I supect that Harris on policy is closer to the middle on issues where Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton were than the Fascist Trump!
I see all of this " big government spending" and "deficit concerns" that go on and on without a word uttered about reducing corporate taxes on corporations and billionaires and expending $1 Trillion annually on Defense Companies and wasteful programs at NASA. This is pushed through by both parties. What about the two 20 year wars that began under Bush Jr. How much they contributed to todays deficits. These are both side issues that will be debated for years.
Map based on polls.
Polymarket prediction map.
Mainly interesting for conversation at this point, especially in regards to just how profound the change in momentum has been. The only votes that count happen in November.
Polymarket prediction map.
Mainly interesting for conversation at this point, especially in regards to just how profound the change in momentum has been. The only votes that count happen in November.
The veteran part has haunted him since 2008. Agreeing to serve two additional years command sergeant major just to abandon your troops because you are getting shipped to Iraq is pretty crappy and cowardly.
I would take him over the Cheeto and cat person hater any day of the week and twice on Sunday but I don’t think dismissing the above facts just because the other side is more deplorable is right either.
I think that is the key enduring insight.
White southerners (and the Democracy was the largest party in the South by 1860, especially in the Deep South) came to believe that the election of a Republican meant official federal support for slave insurrections that put at risk the entire white population of the southern states, whether they owned slaves or not (the majority of those murdered by Nat Turner in 1831 and John Brown in 1859 were non-slaveholders) so all were at risk. Republicans knew in advance of Harper's Ferry but did nothing to stop it. Republican governors refused to honor extradition requests for those of John Brown's party wanted for murder in Virginia. Sixty-eight Republican sitting members of Congress endorsed Helper's book The Impending Crisis, which urged slaves to slit the throats of white people in their sleep.
The irony is that Lincoln had no intention of killing anyone. He had observed that Brown was right in his goals, he had been wrong in his methods. Lincoln, in his first inaugural address endorsed making slavery permanent and removing forever from the federal government the power to abolish it.
Through the magic of partisan politics ("Everybody on the other side is guilty of the worst sins of any of them."), however, in Democratic eyes, every Republican was a murderer and an insurrectionists. Living under a government led by a Republican could not be tolerated. The risks to every man and his family were too great.
I see similar partisan thinking in the U.S. today and it does not make me optimistic.
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Doesn’t matter. Army rules are that when you accept a CSM promotion you are expected to serve 2 years or get chaptered out. Hence why his retirement reads E-8 instead of E-9.
I have lived nearby the Marshall Space Flight Center much of my life. There has been great debate about the Orion launch system and whether it should be be developed here or by private companies. Shelby pushed it through Congress over objections to maintain spending in Alabama. Surely no one believes the Starliner marooned at the Space Station is a great example of NASA's ability to select and manage sub-contractors. We could discuss NASA culture here for days but what would we gain from it?
Actually, he has probably given those people reasons to vote against him that have nothing to do with his skin color.
but the democrat are the real identity politics
Well it’s kinda odd that someone keeps saying “retired CSM” after his retirement as a title but retired as a Master Sergeant because he failed to complete Sergeant Major School and serve the additional two years after the school to keep the rank….
But yeah let’s keep ignoring facts that we don’t agree with
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