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We’re like a glorified JUCO program right now. Our best move on to the big time while we take lesser D1 guys looking for more playing time or better looks for the draft to replace them.
 
bamabaseballfan said:
We’re like a glorified JUCO program right now. Our best move on to the big time while we take lesser D1 guys looking for more playing time or better looks for the draft to replace them.
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It's hard to blame it on the University. Most LOTTO states make up for the 12.5-24% Baseball Scholarships in the SEC now. LSU started this and other schools have followed when their states adopted the LOTTO. Full ride plus NIL and we are losing top guys to the portal. I don't blame them at all. Until the State of Alabama steps up, this is how it is.
 
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So how specifically do the lottery states supplement the baseball scholarships? I'm asking because I have an idea...

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It's hard to blame it on the University. Most LOTTO states make up for the 12.5-24% Baseball Scholarships in the SEC now. LSU started this and other schools have followed when their states adopted the LOTTO. Full ride plus NIL and we are losing top guys to the portal. I don't blame them at all. Until the State of Alabama steps up, this is how it is.
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LittleLexi said:
It's hard to blame it on the University. Most LOTTO states make up for the 12.5-24% Baseball Scholarships in the SEC now. LSU started this and other schools have followed when their states adopted the LOTTO. Full ride plus NIL and we are losing top guys to the portal. I don't blame them at all. Until the State of Alabama steps up, this is how it is.
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Even if Alabama passes lottery bills like those proposed in the past, it won’t help this situation. The recent bills didn’t put lottery money towards scholarships. Many didn’t even go towards education. The ones that did took money away from education instead of the lottery being in addition to what was already going to education. Here’s a shocker: several just went towards the state’s general fund.
 
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JDCrimson said:
So how specifically do the lottery states supplement the baseball scholarships? I'm asking because I have an idea...
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So, we all know that baseball only gets 11.71 athletic scholarships, correct? And that 11.71 can be divided up between, I think 27 students, and each student that gets a scholarship has to receive at least a quarter of a scholarship (not sure if that's changed in the past 5-6 years though). Each student can supplement that athletic scholarship with any other scholarship money, including academic scholarships.

A state-funded merit-based scholarship for in-state students is essentially another collection of scholarships that those schools have access to -- except it's available to everyone within the state that meets the qualification requirements (say a 3.0 HS GPA) -- and not funded by the university in question.

For example, LSU can go after an in-state student that qualifies for the merit-based scholarship and have to use less athletic funds to get them to a full scholarship (not even including any school-specific academic money they may qualify for). They can then use the athletic funds to cherry pick from the surrounding states (for example, being able to offer Luke Holman more scholarship money than Bama could)

Meaning universities in a state (ex: UA and AU) without a state-funded merit-based scholarship is limited to just the 11.71 and any university-specific academic scholarships. Meaning, if Alabama recruits an in-state player that only qualifies for the minimum academic scholarship awarded by UA ($4000 per year going by the 3.0 HS GPA listed above), to reach a full scholarship amount that student would need to receive almost two-thirds of an athletic scholarship to just cover tuition, not even including books, fees, on-campus housing, etc.

One way UA can "get around" this, so to speak is to recruit players who are also really good students, guys that maybe qualify for the higher scholarship tiers ($9-$11,000), but that limits the pool of players fairly significantly, IMO.
 
Thank you, so what is preventing the state from creating a trust that the legalized gambiling interests in the state to contribute to the trust for a tax break?

We already have gambling in the state creating revenue. So why not leverage the activity to support education or scholarship initiatives?

baseballfanatic said:
So, we all know that baseball only gets 11.71 athletic scholarships, correct? And that 11.71 can be divided up between, I think 27 students, and each student that gets a scholarship has to receive at least a quarter of a scholarship (not sure if that's changed in the past 5-6 years though). Each student can supplement that athletic scholarship with any other scholarship money, including academic scholarships.

A state-funded merit-based scholarship for in-state students is essentially another collection of scholarships that those schools have access to -- except it's available to everyone within the state that meets the qualification requirements (say a 3.0 HS GPA) -- and not funded by the university in question.

For example, LSU can go after an in-state student that qualifies for the merit-based scholarship and have to use less athletic funds to get them to a full scholarship (not even including any school-specific academic money they may qualify for). They can then use the athletic funds to cherry pick from the surrounding states (for example, being able to offer Luke Holman more scholarship money than Bama could)

Meaning universities in a state (ex: UA and AU) without a state-funded merit-based scholarship is limited to just the 11.71 and any university-specific academic scholarships. Meaning, if Alabama recruits an in-state player that only qualifies for the minimum academic scholarship awarded by UA ($4000 per year going by the 3.0 HS GPA listed above), to reach a full scholarship amount that student would need to receive almost two-thirds of an athletic scholarship to just cover tuition, not even including books, fees, on-campus housing, etc.

One way UA can "get around" this, so to speak is to recruit players who are also really good students, guys that maybe qualify for the higher scholarship tiers ($9-$11,000), but that limits the pool of players fairly significantly, IMO.
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JDCrimson said:
Thank you, so what is preventing the state from creating a trust that the legalized gambiling interests in the state to contribute to the trust for a tax break?

We already have gambling in the state creating revenue. So why not leverage the activity to support education or scholarship initiatives?
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I'm not that in tune with the way the legal casinos were set up to operate in AL, so I'm not sure how they would go about changing those operation rules. I'm sure there's provisions about where the tax money goes, how much they are taxed, etc. Could those all be changed by the state reps? Probably.

Another question is, would enough of them vote for it to get it changed? The big problem, IMO, has been that, without naming names, certain groups from certain places have really poured a lot of money into funding campaigns to vote against the lottery.

And possibly the biggest question of them all in my mind is: If the first two happen (or even a lottery voted into existence), would the state reps actually allocate money to an education fund? I have my doubts. As mentioned before, many of the lotto bills floated in past years has put very little, if any, to an education fund -- most of it just went to the general fund. I know that I don't necessarily trust that lot down in Montgomery more than I can throw them...

That said, Mississippi surprised me by instituting a lottery (in spite of the current gambling interests), and allocating something like the first 80 million in revenue every year to education, with everything after that going to a fund for improving MS highways for the first few years (maybe 10, I don't really recall off the top of my head), then after that going to the general fund.
 
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JDCrimson said:
So how specifically do the lottery states supplement the baseball scholarships? I'm asking because I have an idea...
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From what I understand, each school handles it differently and calls it a different form of assistance after the baseball scholarship is awarded. The state designates the money typically via lotto money going into an education fund and the schools use it as they see fit. Vandy has an endowment and used this as a way to give full baseball assistance before the lotto.
 
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