Ah, Florida - words fail me.
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Ron DeSantis invites lawsuit after saying Satanists can't be chaplains in FL schools
Satanism "is not a religion," said the Florida governor while signing a Christian Nationalist bill
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On Thursday, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed HB 931 into law, giving school districts permission to hire volunteer chaplains. It’s a safe assumption that nearly all of the volunteers will be Christians. Participating districts must also let parents (and the public) know about the chaplains’ religious affiliations, and parents would have to give written consent before their kids met with a chaplain.
Beyond that, though, there are no rules.
There’s nothing in the law that says chaplains cannot proselytize to kids… which means it will almost certainly happen.
There’s nothing in the law requiring chaplains to have any specific set of qualifications. Any random person who gets a stamp of approval from a religious group can be a chaplain.
That means, however, that non-Christian groups will not be prohibited from participating in the program. If a chaplain is affiliated with a Satanist or Humanist or Islamic group, there’s nothing stopping them from joining in the fun. If a district allows Christian chaplains to work with kids but says no to an otherwise qualified non-theistic chaplain, it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
DeSantis doesn’t seem to understand that.
Ron DeSantis invites lawsuit after saying Satanists can't be chaplains in FL schools
Satanism "is not a religion," said the Florida governor while signing a Christian Nationalist bill
On Thursday, Gov. Ron DeSantis signed HB 931 into law, giving school districts permission to hire volunteer chaplains. It’s a safe assumption that nearly all of the volunteers will be Christians. Participating districts must also let parents (and the public) know about the chaplains’ religious affiliations, and parents would have to give written consent before their kids met with a chaplain.
Beyond that, though, there are no rules.
There’s nothing in the law that says chaplains cannot proselytize to kids… which means it will almost certainly happen.
There’s nothing in the law requiring chaplains to have any specific set of qualifications. Any random person who gets a stamp of approval from a religious group can be a chaplain.
That means, however, that non-Christian groups will not be prohibited from participating in the program. If a chaplain is affiliated with a Satanist or Humanist or Islamic group, there’s nothing stopping them from joining in the fun. If a district allows Christian chaplains to work with kids but says no to an otherwise qualified non-theistic chaplain, it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.
DeSantis doesn’t seem to understand that.
This whole thing is a complete farce and potentially detrimental to students, including those who may be shot by another student who did not receive proper mental health evaluations from an actual professional because of the law.
And we wonder why our kids dont listen to us anymore? Maybe theyre right we dont know anything after all...
Gov. Casey DeSantis? FAU poll said first lady would be a leading GOP candidate for governor.
Casey DeSantis drew 37% while Pensacola Congressman Matt Gaetz, a far-right Donald Trump ally often mentioned as a successor to Gov. Ron DeSantis, received 15%.
www.heraldtribune.com
A poll by Florida Atlantic University and Mainstreet Research may encourage Florida first lady Casey DeSantis to mull the possibility of being elected as the state's first woman governor.
Asked who they would prefer as their next head of state, the survey of Florida Republican voters has Casey DeSantis besting other options, including U.S. Rep, Matt Gaetz, a far-right Donald Trump ally often mentioned as a possible successor to Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Casey DeSantis drew 37% while the Pensacola congressman received just 15%. The "don't know" category logged 29%, while 19% chose the "another candidate" option.
Florida lobbyists leaned on pols to get ban on local heat safety and wage laws across the finish line, records show
As an added 'incentive,' the Chamber noted that lawmakers' votes would be double-weighted on their upcoming legislative report cards.
On the final day of Florida’s legislative session, state lawmakers approved one of the most controversial bills of the year, blocking local governments from requiring employers to provide basic heat safety protections for their workers, such as shade, water breaks, employee monitoring and “appropriate first-aid measures.â€Â
It also bans cities and counties from regulating employers’ scheduling practices and, effective Sept. 30, 2026, from requiring employers they contract with to pay employees a rate higher than Florida’s minimum wage, which is currently $12 an hour.
Florida Gov. DeSantis signed the bill into law, with no fanfare or statement, on March 11, after regular business hours. He later rhetorically distanced himself from the bill, telling reporters during a press conference the day after that “it wasn’t anything that was coming from me.â€Â
another win for daddy ron
Dozens of migrants that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tricked into flying from Texas to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts for a $615,000 taxpayer-funded political stunt have now been granted visas as human trafficking victims of Ron DeSantis's actions.
Dozens of migrants that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tricked into flying from Texas to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts for a $615,000 taxpayer-funded political stunt have now been granted visas as human trafficking victims of Ron DeSantis's actions.
Short feature on a French Bakery here in town.........
Introducing Mon Delice French Bakery in NSB! This charming spot is a personal favorite of our owner, Adam. From flaky croissants to decadent pastries, they've got a treat for every palate. If you're in the area, make sure to stop by and indulge in some French delights or the best sub in town! Trust us, your taste buds will thank you!
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Introducing Mon Delice French Bakery in NSB! This charming spot is a personal favorite of our owner, Adam. From flaky croissants to decadent pastries, they've got a treat for every palate. If you're in the area, make sure to stop by and indulge in some French delights or the best sub in town! Trust us, your taste buds will thank you!
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A law in Florida charges inmates $50 a day to stay in prison cells. Plunging them into lifelong debt. A woman who was sentenced to 7 years but only did 10 months still owes $127K and can’t work in her dream job even after graduating from college.
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Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration
It's a common saying: You do the crime, you do the time. But when people are released from prison, freedom is fragmented. It marks the start of new hardships, impacting families and communities.
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A law in Florida charges inmates $50 a day to stay in prison cells. Plunging them into lifelong debt. A woman who was sentenced to 7 years but only did 10 months still owes $127K and can’t work in her dream job even after graduating from college.
Pay to stay: Florida inmates charged for prison cells long after incarceration
It's a common saying: You do the crime, you do the time. But when people are released from prison, freedom is fragmented. It marks the start of new hardships, impacting families and communities.
This is nothing new @Huckleberry and happens all over the country.
2015 CNN Business article:
And this doesn't just happen in Florida.
A recent report from the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law found that these types of fees, where inmates can be charged for room and board, have been authorized in at least 43 states. In 2014, for example, an appellate court in Illinois ruled that a Chicago inmate named Johnnie Melton would have to pay nearly $20,000 to the Illinois Department of Corrections for the cost of his incarceration.
"We're seeing it all over, medical co-pays, cost of incarceration claims, you name it." said Randall C. Berg Jr., the executive director of the Florida Justice Institute which represented Barrett.
Fees have also been charged for booking, probation, DNA testing, use of a public defender, police transport, phone calls and video visitation, court costs and sentencing.
Costly prison fees are putting inmates deep in debt
That’s certainly true @Bazza, but that doesn’t make it right. Making it even harder for people to resume a normal life and become contributing members of society after serving time seems to be a bad idea.
I'm with you, Huck - just pointing out it wasn't a Florida-specific thing.......
I also read that this doesn't apply to every person. I read that it's decided by a judge who considers various aspects. I'm sure it varies state to state and case to case.
I believe in second chances and sometimes even third chances but at some point......you are forced to pay the price for stuff.
Just part of life....happens to us all.......
I put this under the "cruelty is the point". Which I find so ironic as quite a few of the suits passing these kinds of draconian laws commit the same levels of crimes that they punitively punish those in the prison system for.
Former Florida Rep. Joe Harding sentenced to 4 months in prison
The Republican pleaded guilty to charges including wire fraud and money laundering. He sponsored the Parental Rights in Education Act, also known as the Don’t Say Gay bill.
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Average teacher pay in Florida has fallen from 48th to 50th in the most recent NEA salary rankings released today. For all the patting on the back that the Gov and Commissioner do for increasing teacher pay, it’s clear the emperor has no clothes. Florida must do better.
The Florida Department of Education responded to the teacher pay report. In an e-mail sent to investigative reporter, Katie Lagrone, FDOE said:
"When Governor DeSantis signs Florida’s budget for the upcoming fiscal year, the state will have invested over $4 billion dollars in pay raises for teachers since the Governor took office. This was accomplished despite constant obstruction from organizations like the FEA. As a result, Florida has increased our teacher starting salary from $40,000 to $48,000.
The bogus NEA report does not consider a variety of factors, such as cost of living and state income tax. We also have no way to verify that the union is accurately collecting and reporting teacher salaries and not artificially inflating the data with benefits and other forms of compensation.
One thing we know to be 100% true: when the union gets involved in salary negotiations, teachers lose out. This year, the Orange County teachers’ union, one of the largest school districts, stalled out the negotiation process which significantly delayed teacher pay raises. Last year, the Hillsborough County teachers’ union used delay tactics to stall teacher pay raises for more than 6 months. Perhaps the FEA should spend more time addressing why over half of the teachers’ unions that were required to renew their registration failed to meet the 60% threshold for the 2023-2024 school year and had to petition the Public Employees Relations Commission to be recertified."
UPDATE: Florida Dept. of Education responds to new state teacher pay ranking at #50
New data released today shows Florida’s average teacher pay dropped from being ranked #48 in the nation last year to #50 in the nation this year.
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The Florida Department of Education responded to the teacher pay report. In an e-mail sent to investigative reporter, Katie Lagrone, FDOE said:
"When Governor DeSantis signs Florida’s budget for the upcoming fiscal year, the state will have invested over $4 billion dollars in pay raises for teachers since the Governor took office. This was accomplished despite constant obstruction from organizations like the FEA. As a result, Florida has increased our teacher starting salary from $40,000 to $48,000.
The bogus NEA report does not consider a variety of factors, such as cost of living and state income tax. We also have no way to verify that the union is accurately collecting and reporting teacher salaries and not artificially inflating the data with benefits and other forms of compensation.
One thing we know to be 100% true: when the union gets involved in salary negotiations, teachers lose out. This year, the Orange County teachers’ union, one of the largest school districts, stalled out the negotiation process which significantly delayed teacher pay raises. Last year, the Hillsborough County teachers’ union used delay tactics to stall teacher pay raises for more than 6 months. Perhaps the FEA should spend more time addressing why over half of the teachers’ unions that were required to renew their registration failed to meet the 60% threshold for the 2023-2024 school year and had to petition the Public Employees Relations Commission to be recertified."
UPDATE: Florida Dept. of Education responds to new state teacher pay ranking at #50
New data released today shows Florida’s average teacher pay dropped from being ranked #48 in the nation last year to #50 in the nation this year.
Bolding is mine:
One thing we know to be 100% true: when the union gets involved in salary negotiations, teachers lose out. This statement is an absolute lie. Without our unions, most teachers would be lucky to have adequate insurance, planning time, duty-free lunch, and a number of other meaningful and necessary benefits. In most cases, teachers' unions reject district offers because their members know and insist that they deserve more. The evil teachers' union boogeyman described by DeSantis and his grifting deceitful cronies is a strawman with virtually no basis in fact.
...why over half of the teachers’ unions that were required to renew their registration failed to meet the 60% threshold for the 2023-2024 school year and had to petition the Public Employees Relations Commission to be recertified. This is a result of the targeting of teachers' unions by DeSantis and the Florida GOP. They don't like that these unions lean Democrat, so they use the power of government (in true conservative fashion) to hamstring them by raising the minimum membership thresholds while at the same time outlawing things like payroll deduction for union dues. Make no mistake: If you oppose DeSantis, he will use the power of government to hurt you. Ask yourself this: why were law enforcement and firefighter unions were excluded from the 60% membership requirement? The answer is obvious.
Tens of thousands of workers in Florida have just lost their labor unions. More is coming
A WLRN investigation begins to reveal the scope of SB 256, a sweeping anti-union labor law passed in 2023. What is emerging is an outright crisis for teachers and other public sector workers. “The work conditions of hundreds of thousands of people are going to be up in the air,” said one advocate.
www.wlrn.org
The Florida Department of Education responded to the teacher pay report. In an e-mail sent to investigative reporter, Katie Lagrone, FDOE said:
The bogus NEA report does not consider a variety of factors, such as cost of living and state income tax. We also have no way to verify that the union is accurately collecting and reporting teacher salaries and not artificially inflating the data with benefits and other forms of compensation.
UPDATE: Florida Dept. of Education responds to new state teacher pay ranking at #50
New data released today shows Florida’s average teacher pay dropped from being ranked #48 in the nation last year to #50 in the nation this year.
Florida K-12 public teachers are paid the lowest average salary when adjusted for cost of living.
How much do teachers get paid in the US? | USAFacts
Teachers made about $63,100 per year in 2024. That’s the annual median wage for pre-K-12 teachers across the United States, based on estimates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The median marks the middle point—half of teachers earn more and half earn less. The lowest-paid 10% earned $46,900...
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