An Evaluation of National Championships 1936-2013

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You know a Nebraska team is one of all time greats if Selma says they are. (Not a shot at you Selma I just know you’ve made your feelings clear about Nebraska in the past).
I don't know if they're "the greatest," but IN CONTEXT they're in the discussion.

But we should also admit this: pick a team around number 15-20 in a modern poll, and they'd probably boat-race the old teams, too. The game is a completely different animal.

Just to be clear, I've NEVER said 1995 Nebraska was not a VERY GOOD team. I just don't think "well, they blew out the other unbeaten team" is sufficient grounds for "greatest team ever." I didn't buy that then, and I don't buy that now. (Hell, they weren't even FAVORED to win the ballgame).

(full disclosure: I attended Nebraska through the military's UNMC program, so I actually have 95 credit hours from the University of Nebraska).
 

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1972 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: USC 12-0
UPI Champion: USC

1) Another near train wreck


Coming down the home stretch in 1972 as bowl berths were being dealt like dirty cards from the bottom of the deck, CFB provided yet another thrilling "November to Remember" replete with post-Halloween horror. Three unbeaten teams led the way: USC, Alabama, and Michigan, and whoo boy, was Alabama in some big trouble. All Michigan had to do was win out and set up the national title game between the Pac 8 and Big 10. Naturally, Michigan lost, so Alabama now needed nothing more than two wins and to root for Ohio State to beat the Trojans. What happened instead was a special teams collapse for the ages, Auburn blocking two punts for touchdowns in about a five-minute span at the end of the game that knocked the Tide out of the running. And now, of course, we had a rather obvious problem:

1) USC
2) Oklahoma - one loss to Colorado
3) Ohio St - one loss to Michigan State
4) Alabama - one loss to Auburn
5) Penn St - one loss to Tennessee
6) Auburn - a mammoth 35-7 loss to LSU

(How in the hell do you rate Alabama AHEAD of Auburn when they have the exact same record and oh yeah, Auburn won the game???)

So......if USC loses, who wins the national championship?

OU took out Penn State.
Texas took out Alabama.
Auburn then made it interesting by beating Colorado.

Fortunately, USC prevailed and again covered up the near disaster at the end of the season.

It seems nobody was pausing enough to ask the obvious question: "What is going to happen when a team CLEARLY not the best team of the year pulls off an upset, and the other big teams all lose as well?" It was only a matter of time before this powder keg exploded.

2) Did the right team win the national championship?

Yes, this one was easy but only because of the end result. What if Ohio State beats USC? In all probability, the Buckeyes win, but who really knows?

And then we have.....wait for it......the four-team playoff.

Who makes it?
USC - no brainer
Oklahoma - no brainer
Ohio St - no brainer

But who is the fourth team??? Probably Alabama. How can you take Penn State when they lost to Tennessee who lost to Alabama who lost to Auburn who lost to LSU who lost to BOTH Alabama AND Tennessee?

And boy, would you have heard a ruckus from West Georgia, too.
 
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1973 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Notre Dame 11-0
Unbeaten teams: #5 Penn St 12-0
Unbeaten teams with ties: #2 Ohio State 10-0-1, #3 Oklahoma 10-0-1, #6 Michigan 10-0-1
UPI Champion: Alabama 11-0 (pre-bowl, 11-1 post-Sugar Bowl)

1) Train wreck on tracks 1 and 2.....


On November 9, 1973, the first rumor broke: Alabama and Notre Dame were going to meet in the Sugar Bowl, a challenge laid down by Alabama Coach Paul Bryant. Sure, Alabama still had three games left as did Notre Dame, but in 1973, there was no Sugar Bowl contract with the SEC. Alabama vs Notre Dame under ANY circumstance in 1973 would draw millions of eyes to the television, sell out the game in Tulane Stadium, and send both teams home with some green pieces of paper that were getting worth less every single day thanks to 1970s inflation.

Three days later, the just published AP poll had no fewer than SEVEN undefeated teams ranked 1-7. Ohio State was generally believed to be the best team (35 FPV) while Alabama was second and the team with a tie, Oklahoma, was in third. Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn St, and LSU rounded out the top seven as the mad scramble for bowl berths began in earnest. The Big Ten had finally - FINALLY - done away with the archaic "no repeat" rule, and they were on the verge of permitting other schools to sample the trough of poisonous bowl games and reap the financial whirlwind they could find. The pollsters, though, had it figured out...Alabama and LSU would take care of one another as would Ohio St and Michigan. But things don't always work out the way they are assumed, either.

Ohio State and Michigan played to a listless 10-10 tie when Michigan's game-winning field goal attempt went wide right and Ohio State finished the game with zero passing yards. Because Alabama beat unbeaten LSU, the Tide rose to the top while Ohio St fell to third, with Michigan fourth and Notre Dame fifth. The two-year bowl ban administered to Oklahoma prior to the season was likely to prevent them from winning the title.

The UPI - for what turned out to be the last time - gave Alabama the national title from the coaches. In one sense, it was poetic justice. Much like Alabama in 1966 when UPI gave it to Notre Dame, the Irish this time could just stand there and do nothing as far as the UPI was concerned. The AP, of course, was a different story.

An Alabama win in the Sugar Bowl, and no problem. A Tide loss, though, and the scrambling would begin. Notre Dame, of course, had the upper hand with the head-to-head contest, and although it was NOT 1 vs 2 (as is commonly believed), it WAS unbeaten #1 vs unbeaten #4, and these were the two top teams with completely unblemished records. Ohio State did beat USC, but the fact USC already had both a loss and a tie lowered the degree of accomplishment. And that left what for several years was listed among the all-time great football games.

2) The system again bailed itself out.

It's amazing how long it took folks to understand this but....match up the two highest ranked teams with unblemished records and NOBODY'S complaint matters 30 years later. Ohio St isn't going to say much because they blew a 10-0 lead on Michigan. Oklahoma isn't going to say much because rewarding teams on probation with national championships just wasn't going to be done in 1973 (1974, however, would be a completely different story).

This narrowed the field down to Alabama, Notre Dame, and Penn State - and in 1973, the Lions could have had a written endorsement from Jesus, the Pope, and George Wallace, and it would not have mattered. John Cappelletti DID take home the Heisman, though, so they weren't totally empty-handed.

The system works. But it ONLY works if you can match up the highest-ranked teams. If you lock teams into mandatory bowl bids, you will reduce the likelihood of this happening. Imagine if Ohio State had beaten Michigan, Oklahoma had beaten USC by a point, and Notre Dame opts to play Texas (again!) in the Cotton Bowl. Suppose further that Alabama winds up in the Sugar Bowl against Nebraska and barely beats them after Oklahoma has a 27-0 pasting of the Huskers on their resume.

Who in the hell do you vote for then?

The worst - the absolute WORST thing college football could possibly do at this point was allow bowl games to lock in certain conferences and prohibit their freedom to move. Naturally, you can guess what happened.

Here is where the cognitive dissonance of college football managed to demonstrate itself in serious illogic: at the VERY SAME TIME, the UPI decides that national titles ARE important, so important that they will now take their vote AFTER the bowl games.

On the one hand, a title is not important enough to permit a degree of free agency if you belong to a conference but on the other, it IS important enough to wait until all the games are played. But then bowls begin guaranteeing a certain payout, and the colleges depend on that money. It was inevitable what would happen, and it was galloping quickly into view.

3) Did the right team win the national championship?

Of course they did, in both cases. Once again, I'm put in the position of having to defend Alabama's UPI title.

Don't blame Alabama because they won a title within the confines of the rules. None of these whiners who say, "But Notre Dame proved blah blah blah" ever bothers to discuss previous titles, including Texas in 1970. No, it's only Alabama you hear this about. Furthermore - is a one-point win REALLY proof of a team being SUBSTANTIALLY better than the opponent? Yes, we respect the results, but the results of the Sugar Bowl were not in, either.

As I stated above, 1973 was largely a "make up call" for losing in 1966. It would behoove those motivated more by "you didn't really win those championships" to be a little fairer in their assessments assuming they actually are in contact with reality.

Alabama won the 1973 UPI title.
Notre Dame won the 1973 AP title.
Notre Dame won the Sugar Bowl and gets to brag about it forever.

All in all, the outcome was largely just.
 

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1974 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Oklahoma 11-0
Unbeaten teams with ties: #10 Miami (of Ohio) 10-0-1
UPI Champion: USC (note: teams on probation are ineligible for the UPI championship)

1) Once again it was Alabama's to lose - and once again, Ara Parseghian haunted the Tide.


Oklahoma was leading Alabama in first-place votes, 49-12. But don't tell any of us that if Alabama had knocked off Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl that Oklahoma would have prevailed as champion.

2) Teams are probation ARE eligible in the AP poll.

I guess we can argue the "why," but they always were. Indeed, voting for teams on probation is a sticking point. In fact, if one just pauses for a moment, one might get faced with the dilemma that that best team in the country is quite crooked while the one team left without a loss is quite clean. It was only a matter of time until that happened, too.

3) Did the right team win the national championship?

The answer - in both polls - is yes. Teams 2 and 3 lost their bowl game, 4 stayed home, and 5 beat 3, so yes in the UPI as well.

Other than Oklahoma was on probation, not much controversy.
 

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1971 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Nebraska 11-0
Undefeated teams with ties:#14 Toldeo
UPI Champion: Nebraska

1) Walking a VERY tight rope...


There were no fewer than SIX undefeated teams as the bowl games began preparing invitations in their hopes to draw a great TV rating, and the only certainty was Michigan was headed to the Rose Bowl. Well, there was one other certainty barring a tie: Oklahoma-Nebraska and Alabama-Auburn would eliminate two other teams and shrink the field...unless they ALL lost and then there was a plethora of one-loss teams ready to cycle through the rankings and compilcate matters. By the end of the regular season, three unbeaten major teams were left: Nebraska, Alabama, and Michigan. The UPI, predictably, opted for the Nebraska team that was defending a title and had not lost. But the AP title was up for grabs, and the Orange Bowl scored a (then) rarity: #1 Nebraska vs #2 Alabama. When Michigan lost the Rose Bowl to Stanford in the afternoon, college football had a rare winner-take-all game on the docket. They couldn't have planned it any better. And neither, quite frankly, could Nebraska.

Unloading on the "back in the title picture" Alabama youngsters, Nebraska put on a clinic of 1971 football, forcing turnovers and pumping in 38 points against a Tide defense that had given up only 84 points in ten games. When the mud of the Orange Bowl floor settled, Nebraska had a second straight title and the moniker of "the greatest team of all-time." The Big Eight wound up finishing 1-2-3, the only time in polling history any conference actually held the top 3 spots in the final poll.

But what if Michigan had won? The bowl games provided security for teams of having a financial source coming in with a level of predictability, but they also maddended the fans. Just a few years hence, Alabama would be obligated to go to the Sugar Bowl, and this 1 vs 2 never happens. What if Nebraska had blown out someone else in the Orange Bowl, Alabama had blown out Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl by more points than Nebraska did, and Michigan won the Rose Bowl? Who wins the title then?

2) Did the right team win the national championship?

Unequviocally, yes. 1971 Nebraska is one of the all-time great teams, and the only real question is....who would they have had to beat in a four-team playoff in 1971?

Nebraska, Alabama, Michigan are easy choices.

Who is #4?
Oklahoma? But they already lost to Nebraska
Auburn? Blown out by Alabama far worse than OU was
Georgia? But they lost to Auburn who lost to Alabama
Colorado? But they lost to BOTH Nebraska and Oklahoma
Arizona St? Uh that would be a "no"

In all probability, Oklahoma gets chosen for the number four slot. They play Nebraska in a rematch while Alabama and Michigan play for the first time ever. And in all honesty, Nebraska probably wipes the floor with Alabama again anyway. Or Michigan, it's not like Bo could ever win the big one anyway.
We did have a variant of a playoff that year, with OU Nebraska Bama and Auburn all undefeated and playing each other in the last game of the regular season. I think the Bowls picked before those games and guessed right. Also I think Colorado finished 3rd in the final poll giving the Big8 1-2-3. Hard to believe we haven’t played Nebraska in going on 43 years.
 
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Like flies on a rib roast......

On January 1, 1965, Alabama and Texas met in the Orange Bowl football game before a sellout crowd and played the first national live prime time college football telecast. At that time, schools only got money from the sales of tickets to the game, and each school left Miami $270,000 richer (that would be about $2.27 million today).

Unlike the inhibitions placed upon teams appearing on television during the regular season, the bowl games existed in a free market system. As television expanded throughout the 1960s, the relatively cheap programming provided by live events combined with greater interest in the sport pushed CFB towards the inevitable, more bowl games and television exposure. The bowl games grew from 6 in 1958 to 11 in 1971. After the SEC was finally (and much too late) fully integrated, the previous bans on the conference became a thing of the past, and in 1971, the ten-team SEC landed no fewer than six teams in New Year's Day bowls just about the time the TV market was going through a major expansion. With the sudden flux of advertising dollars a bowl game could provide, what happened next was inevitable and would alter the national championship picture as much as anything.

In 1967, the Sugar Bowl paid out $236K to Alabama and Nebraska. Just four years later, the SEC walked away with a large check that enriched the conference top to bottom thanks to those six bowl appearances. And after years of shying away from "non-Rose Bowl contests," the Big Ten decided they'd better get on board the train or get left standing holding the empty suitcase on the platform. The passage of Title IX in 1972 complicated matters further for colleges. They needed money, and they needed it now. To hell with past comments about "amateurism," don't just stand by and let the SEC and Big Eight fatten themselves at the trough. So in 1974, Big Ten commissioner Wayne Duke channeled his inner 1957 Auburn and worked the telephones, making his sales pitch as to how big his conference was and how many eyes he could bring to a televised sporting event. In 1972 - to put this in understandable terms - the Big Ten states provided 114 electoral votes for national election. Today, those same states (e.g. I'm not counting the states added since 1989 to the Big Ten), account for "only" 91. Fully 21% of the US lived in those ten states in 1972 (it has dropped to about 17% today). Duke made his sales pitch to the schools, who needed no incentive other than the Almighty dollar (not that there's anything wrong with that) and the bowls, who had the same incentive. Beginning in 1975, the Big Ten as well as the Pac 8 would provide more than just the "team whose turn it was that may or may not have won the conference" to the bowls. With the opportunity now to land Michigan or Ohio State if that school failed to make the Rose Bowl, the mad dash was on and - inevitably, too - this led to bowl tie-ins, which was a windfall financially and a disaster in terms of determining the national championship. Although it took a few years for the system to fully lock in, the seeds were sown and began reaping in 1975.

The genie was now out of the bottle. The good was that 1975 saw what might well have been the best promoted and planned bowl games in history (at least up to that point) that would mix up "North vs South" and "power vs power" in sites other than the Rose or Orange Bowls.

The bad was that the oncoming lack of head-to-head matchups was about to take a toll on the prestige and value of a national champion.
 
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We did have a variant of a playoff that year, with OU Nebraska Bama and Auburn all undefeated and playing each other in the last game of the regular season. I think the Bowls picked before those games and guessed right. Also I think Colorado finished 3rd in the final poll giving the Big8 1-2-3. Hard to believe we haven’t played Nebraska in going on 43 years.
Yes, you had sort of what the BCS kind of promoted later.

Imagine, though, if those big games had ended in ties........
 

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1975 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Oklahoma 11-1
Unbeaten teams: #2 Arizona St
UPI Champion: Oklahoma

1) Like flies on a rib roast....part 2


Ohio State ended the regular season on top once again. It was a game played three days AFTER the final regular season poll, though, that led to some of the most mass confusion ever unleashed on college football.

Texas A/M was riding high at #2 in the polls and had only to get past Arkansas to inject some serious confusion into the national title race. But as it turned out, their 31-6 blowout loss caused more confusion than had the Aggies won (unless, of course, they and Ohio State both lost their bowl games - and wouldn't you know who won that pony?).

The bowl games - once again - got set up a little bit too early. As a reminder - in 1975, the Orange and Sugar Bowls DID NOT have a tie-in with the conferences. But the Cotton Bowl did, which threw the entire enterprise into the garbage. And the Big Ten now decided to become one of the Five Families, and they wanted their cut of those other bowl monies. With the brand name and a reputation for choking that would make Heimlich blush, Michigan set out to throw their monkey wrench into the conclusion.

Cotton: #18 Arkansas vs #12 Georgia
Orange: #3 Oklahoma vs #5 Michigan
Rose: #1 Ohio St vs #11 UCLA
Sugar: #4 Alabama vs #8 Penn St

Even a few of the other games are tantalizing to say the least:
Bluebonnet Bowl: #9 Texas vs #10 Colorado
Fiesta Bowl: #7 Arizona St vs #6 Nebraska

2) Tom Osborne vs Paul Bryant, Bryant With a First-Round Knockout


The Fiesta Bowl was not - in 1975 - a very desirable bowl game financially. Tom Osborne proceeded to make an ass of himself after Paul Bryant (allegedly) vetoed Nebraska's performance and set up a Sugar Bowl in the brand new Superdome with "Joey Come Lately" Penn State. The Big 8 reacted predictably, screaming that "Alabama is skeered of us!" The reality, though, is they could have cared less about Alabama, they were just upset that Penn State was going to walk away with a cut of the larger loot of the Sugar Bowl. New Year's bowls drew bigger money than early ones. Nebraska was also no doubt hurt by the fact that they had played the previous Sugar Bowl against Florida before a half empty stadium. The Big Eight began making noises about not playing the SEC or not playing in the Sugar Bowl, which was funny since what they were protesting was "not playing in the Sugar Bow," so shouldn't they have been happy? Given that Oklahoma was the only proven draw at the time, it was also one of the emptiest threats ever given.

Nebraska went through a public charade of "well, we may not play any bowl at all," but the fact is that it was a choice between "some" money and "no" money, and with US economy in recession and Title IX taking hold, Nebraska had zero leverage. This did not, however, fail to ignite the fire of Arizona State, who had just completed their third "we get no respect" season in seven years. ASU shocked the world by beating Nebraska, and the upset would send reverberations out for years that would alter the face of college football forever. Bryant finally won a bowl game for the first time since the early days of the Vietnam War, and his bringing Penn State to New Orleans generated a sellout, a huge TV rating, and elevated Penn State to the level of the Alabamas and Oklahomas when they lost a closely fought contest. Paul Bryant always played the long game, and this decision would wind up helping him nab another national title at Penn State's expense three years later.

3) Another train wreck ensues...


If Ohio State won then it was simple, but a Buckeyes loss would mean all bets were off. In what was starting to become an annual tradition, the Pac 8 rep (UCLA) thumped the Buckeyes, 23-10, and viewers had to look elsewhere for a national champion. Oklahoma likely ensured their championship with an 8-point win over Michigan, a team Ohio State had beaten by 7. The real wildcard in the deck, though, was Arizona State. Their shocking upset of Nebraska had completed an unbeaten season, and although Oklahoma had played in the Orange Bowl, they were still "technically" on probation.

An unbeaten team with no path to play in the game, a Blue Blood. Advantage: Blue Blood.

4) Did the right team win the national championship?

The answer to this one is, "Probably." It IS very likely that Sooners juggernaut would have floored Arizona State, but what 1975 exposed more than anything was the inherent flaws in the process. After all, nobody gave ASU a chance against Nebraska, either. That, however, is an unacceptable answer in the realm of reality.

a) Not taking a poll after the last game was played was highly problematic

The loss by Texas A/M AFTER the last regular season poll created a false template that set the stage for what occurred in the final vote. A/M never dropped as would have been expected. In all likelihood, Oklahoma would have been #2.

b) the ranking of Alabama over Nebraska is, well, kind of ridiculous

Weird as it now seems, Alabama was ranked #4 and Nebraska #5. WHY this is is also not a mystery: Alabama lost by 13 in September while Nebraska lost by 25 on November 22. But this is ludicrous. Alabama's 13-point loss came to a team that Nebraska had beaten ON THE ROAD by 23 points. Nebraska played the tougher schedule than Alabama, the Big 8 had a better OOC record than the SEC did, and the alleged chicanery that led to the Sugar Bowl matchup while defensible from a dollars aspect would usually lead to a poll drop if voters suspected a team was ducking another one (whether true or not).

Nebraska and Alabama had 3 common opponents in 1975: LSU, TCU, and Missouri. Nebraska went 3-0 against those teams, Alabama 2-1. Alabama DID beat LSU by 13 points to Nebraska's 3, but Nebraska beat the Missouri team Alabama did not, and the TCU game showed Alabama win by 45 and Nebraska by 42.

Alabama's ranking over Nebraska was almost assuredly because they lost first.

This was a common thing, though. Two teams play same set of teams, results are close to the same but with one outlier, and the team that loses first gets their loss forgiven regardless. Alabama DID deserve to be ranked above Nebraska in the final poll, but it was flat out absurd to have them ranked higher prior to the bowl games.

c) the problem of using bowl games to determine national champions

If you look at bowl games, you will see an unusually high number of upsets. It should not take a genius very long to understand exactly how this works, and it's an inherent flaw in the setup.

When you set up a bowl game six weeks out with a contractual obligation, you wind up creating a matchup of "this team is truly awesome" versus "this team is just lucky to be here." The teams hear that for six weeks, and the motivation for the second team is clearly an advantage over the first. One team spends six weeks answering questions about "if you win the national championship" and the other often spends six weeks answering "aren't you just happy to be in the game", and the outcome of those is inevitable. The powerhouse team is distracted and not firing on all cylinders like they would be if they played the game the first or second week of December. Teams like 1983 Nebraska and 2008 Alabama come up dramatically short of what is seen earlier.

You will notice, however, this problem pretty well stopped (as far as the lead teams are concerned) once the games actually meant something. Look over the CFP semi-final results and tell me exactly how many of those outcomes were indisputable and bona fide upsets? How many? Try none of them. There have been a few SURPRISES - that Clemson creamed Ohio State by 31 in 2016 was a shocker, but it wasn't a surprise they won the game. The teams are so evenly matched, of course, that a true "upset" is nearly impossible. Indeed, in only two cases I can think of - if Washington had beaten Alabama in 2016 or if Oklahoma had beaten LSU in 2019 - would the results have been stunning. MAYBE if Sparty had beaten UA in 2015. Maybe. But these don't happen. Why? Because you have the best teams squaring off against each other in games that mean something.

In 1976, a series of decisions the bowl games and conferences make will irretrievably lock in a system that creates a lot of controversy and interest - and, quite frankly, a series of champions who had no business winning the national title. That's where we head next as we examine the question of, "Just how the hell did Pitt win a title in 1976?"
 

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1976 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Pitt 12-0
Unbeaten teams: #4 Maryland, #17 Rutgers
UPI Champion: Pitt

1) The SEC inked a deal with the Sugar Bowl and...


The Sugar Bowl suffered years of economic fallout thanks to the short-sighted decision to promote segregation within the borders of Louisiana sporting events. Years of "all-Southern white guys" playing each other led to other conferences refusing to play in the game. The 1973 classic between Alabama and Notre Dame did a lot to move that past further into the past, and the Sugar Bowl's value by 1976 was behind only the Rose and Orange Bowls, the latter almost assuredly because of the segregationist impulse. Still, by 1976 the Sugar Bowl still guaranteed a payout of $900K per team, so it was imperative to continue the relationship to ensure the long-term financial success of both the bowl game and the conference. Alabama was a sure draw, but after looking it over, the Sugar Bowl reasonably concluded that guaranteeing a slot to the conference champion would protect their long-term interests. It was only 533 miles (about an 8 1/2 hour drive in 1976) to Gainesville, so locking in an SEC team that could travel and almost guarantee a sellout made perfect sense. But there was a dissenting voice in the SEC, and he carried the biggest stick of them all. Paul Bryant made a decision for conference unity, and it wound up biting his school and the conference squarely in the backside just a year later.

Were it not for the willingness of Bryant to set aside his and his school's best interest, it is entirely possible that perhaps the Peach, Liberty, or Gator Bowls might today be the more prestigious game as far as SEC fans are concerned. (Granted, this has drastically lowered with the advent of the BCS and playoffs). Alabama's bowl game flexibility had been the key to winning the 1965 title, and Bryant was a master of locking in the game that would (potentially) shut out every other team from the championship stakes and leave just his team and the opponent standing. But in the best financial interest of the CONFERENCE and other schools, Bryant relented, and the 1977 Sugar Bowl was the first ever played under the new "SEC champ goes to the Sugar Bowl" contract. It was a financial windfall - and a national championship albatross as the conference soon discovered.

2) Pitt showed how to win a national championship the easy way....

With running back Tony Dorsett, the Pitt Panthers already figured to be a good team in 1976. They had finished 1975 ranked 13th with an 8-4 record. They started the year well-regarded at #9, but nobody thought they had a real shot at the national title. But Pitt showed everyone, largely by using the same strategy that wound up winning BYU the title in 1984:

a) beat a ranked team early that turns out not to be very good at all or at least overrated
b) jump high in the polls based on the inflated reputation of the team you beat
c) win all your games against the unranked riff-riff that make up the rest of your schedule
d) wait until everyone else loses a game and you become #1 only because of that fact
e) win your bowl game against a team not really at your level and dare pollsters to drop you from the top spot.

Pitt pulled this one off splendidly. So, too, did Clemson in 1981 and BYU in 1984. A few other teams - most notably 1983 Miami - managed to do it even with a loss to the only decent foe on their schedule. Boise State even tried it more than once, but found it was actually a little harder to ensure you won all the games. But it was Pitt who wrote the SOP on "how to play (almost) nobody decent and win a national title."

I'm slightly exaggerating, of course. Pitt's schedule was substantially better than BYU's was in 1984 but that's like saying a gunshot wound to your stomach is better than one to your head. Pitt beat an overrated Notre Dame team in the opener and benefited from Nebraska's tie with a mediocre LSU. Pitt sat at #3 and just kept winning. When #2 Ohio State lost to Missouri - and the Buckeyes had a poor year by their standards of the time - Pitt quietly moved up to #2. And sitting behind #1 Michigan, it was only a matter of time before watching them choke away prosperity yet again, which happened when the Wolverines inexplicably lost to 5-6 Purdue, 16-14.

BOWL GAMES:
Sugar: #1 Pitt vs #4 Georgia
Rose: #3 USC vs #2 Michigan

Perhaps the first "sort of" four-team playoff happened on January 1, 1977. It's just the next game wasn't played, and Pitt won the national championship.

3) Did the right team win the national championship?

Based on the way things were, yes. Do I think Pitt would have beaten USC head-to-head? Probably not. But there's a difference between saying "they kind of skated to a title" and saying "they were a lousy team." Pitt was a very good team that year, and the reality is they passed every test. Beating a one-loss SEC champion by 24 points - a fourth-ranked team - is a solid exclamation point indeed. Thus, this may be another case where the perceived BEST team didn't win it, but the team that won was by no means an unworthy champion.
 
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a) Notre Dame DID NOT "play for a tie" - not in the literal sense anyway.
Michigan State punted to ND to set up that final ND possession. Alabama fans with an axe to grind against ND for this game ought to grind another for Sparty, and yet we never do.

As you’ve said, a tie was the best possible outcome for Alabama, as a victory for either team would significantly have lessened (though not eliminated) the controversy. The voters, not Notre Dame or Michigan State, cost Alabama the 1966 title…
 

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1977 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Screw 'Em
UPI Champion: Screw 'Em Some More

1) The bowl system shatters the national championship into a million pieces.


By 1977, the deals were all locked in place. The Big Eight winner to the Orange, the SEC winner to the Sugar, the SWC winner to the Cotton, and the Big Ten and Pac 8 winners to the Rose. Money all around! This is the second year of the bowl contracts, and 1976 was a banner year, with 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3. This is the wave of the future, and the only thing that can possibly go wrong is if the various conference champions all have the same record and cannot play each other.

Welcome to 1977. If Hell is indeed metaphorical, you spend eternity as a college football fan of any team except Notre Dame and try to reason through what exactly happened at the end of the season.

Let's take a close look at the final regular season poll for 1977:

1) Texas, nation's lone unbeaten team (49)
2) Oklahoma, one loss to Texas, 13-6 (5)
3) Alabama, one loss to Nebraska, 31-24 (1)
4) Michigan, one loss to Minnesota (7-5), 16-0
5) Notre Dame, one loss to Ole Miss, 20-13 (1)
6) Arkansas, one loss to Texas, 13-9
7) Kentucky, one loss to Baylor, 21-6 (1)
8) Penn State, one loss to Kentucky, 24-20

Picking which team should be ranked #1 AT THE TIME was not all that difficult. It was what happened, though, that left heads shaking from coast to coast.

2) The constriction on the conference champions enabled Notre Dame to win the national championship and not without a lot of controversy.

Is there anyone alive who doubts that if the SEC had not entered into the bowl contract in 1976 which game Paul Bryant chooses? It is highly unlikely that the Cotton Bowl would have chosen a rematch on the same field between the same teams. And if they had - and Oklahoma had won - does anyone think there would have been any LESS controversy than there was?

Texas was locked into the Cotton Bowl.
Oklahoma was locked into the Orange Bowl, which paid more money so they weren't leaving.
Alabama was locked into the Sugar Bowl.
Michigan was locked into the Rose Bowl.
Notre Dame was the highest rated free agent and a huge TV draw, and they opted for the Cotton Bowl.
Arkansas was rated higher and took the higher-paying Orange Bowl.
Kentucky was on probation and locked into watching the other good teams play during the holidays.
Penn State's early loss cost them dearly, and they wound up going to the Fiesta Bowl on Christmas Day to face Arizona State. Unlike Tom Osborne, the Lions actually showed up intending to win.

3) The media and Cotton Bowl pre-heating turned that game into a de facto national championship game.

As early as November 1, news stories appeared declaring the Cotton Bowl game to be - whichever team won - "for the national championship." Bowl bids were extended after midnight on November 19, and everyone - and I mean EVERYONE - that had to wait was waiting on the Irish. It was a calculated gamble, though. At the time of the bids, Alabama was ranked #2, and the Irish wanted the highest ranked team they could get. The Cotton, Orange, and Sugar Bowls all wanted the Irish and their national following. But...

what if #1 Texas lost, unlikely but stranger things have happened?
what if then #2 Alabama lost, also unlikely - and the Tide dropped to #3 later?
what if then #3 Oklahoma lost to Nebraska?

Notre Dame had to roll the dice and pray it came up in their favor.

The news coverage for much of November focused on, "Which team will play Notre Dame?" Keep in mind that in 1977, the Cotton and Sugar Bowls kicked off at the exact same time. This was a potential disaster for the Sugar Bowl with all the hype being generated for the Cotton.

And then there was the strange case of Arkansas. Because their loss was (voila!) in the SWC, the Razorbacks were free agents, too. But this was a no-brainer - the Orange Bowl was going to fork over about a quarter of a million dollars more, so despite all the "they get their choice after Notre Dame," there was always zero doubt about where the Hawgs were headed. Plus, the Sugar Bowl didn't really want yet "another" all-Southern bowl that did nothing for the game. Behind closed doors, an agreement was reached for the Big Ten runner-up - either Michigan or Ohio State - to play Alabama and expand the national viewing audience of the Sugar Bowl.

4) Penn State Guy Advocated A Four-Team Playoff Subsequent To the Bowls With Eerie Prescience

Sick and tired of getting left on the outside looking in - including 3 unbeaten campaigns in 1968, 1969, and 1973 - Penn State Head Coach publicly called for a college football four-team playoff, where "a blue ribbon panel" would "pick the top four teams." Acknowledging that in a year like 1977 - with so many one-loss teams - would have still excluded someone (probably his own team), he insisted that, yes, there WOULD be complaints, but it would be MUCH better than the bowl system for a champion. "Of course not everybody would be happy, but it would be better than now."

5) How the coaches thought

Barry Switzer, after watching Arkansas demolish his Sooners in a game he waited until two days before the bowl to even look at the game film, said he thought Alabama would probably be the national champion. Lou Holtz, the Arkansas coach, predictably advocated for his team. Holtz's argument bordered on the absurd, saying that the reason Arkansas should be #1 was because nobody thought they could go 11-1 at the start of the season. Using this logic, of course, Vandy could win every time they win nine games. Holtz was on stronger ground, however, when he said that, "I can justify why Notre Dame is number one, but I cannot justify why Alabama and Arkansas are not."

Paul Bryant mused that he thought Notre Dame was the only team that could have jumped Alabama the way that they did. Woody Hayes, perhaps also predictably, said he thought Alabama was the nation's best team. A 35-6 shellacking will do that for you.
 

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6) A serious problem with logic.

The 1977 national championship was probably the most illogical and justfiably disputed final vote in the history of college football. Never before or again has the cumulative weight of arguments been so confusing and never again will it happen with conference expansion and playoffs. There IS a case to be made for Notre Dame, a fact too many Alabama fans are not really ready to admit. No, the problem isn't in the case for Notre Dame but with the asymmetrical application of that argument to everyone except Notre Dame.

There are actually FIVE possible national champions at the end of 1977: Notre Dame, Alabama, Arkansas, Penn State, and Kentucky. And we will look at the case for and against each team.

a) Notre Dame's case

Lost in the uproar is that Notre Dame presents a VERY positive case for itself. Notre Dame played BY FAR the toughest schedule of the contenders. They played seven teams with a winning record and beat all of them. They blew most of them right off the field, too. They beat #5 USC by 30, #1 Texas by 28, #7 Pitt by 10, and #19 Clemson on the road by 4. They also blew out Georgia Tech, 69-14 - an important outcome because Tech beat 3 SEC teams that Alabama beat, two of them by larger margins (Georgia, Tennessee). The SEC only had two bowl teams in 1977, and Alabama was the only one to win. In the end, the Irish beat favored Texas in Dallas with a healthy Heisman winner (Earl Campbell), and using the "you beat number one, you become number one," Notre Dame won the championship. The Irish surrendered the exact same number of points as Alabama did (139) but scored 40 more.

b) Alabama's case

The case for Alabama isn't nearly as strong schedule-wise as the Notre Dame case is, but once the Irish logic is laid out, those same justifications arise for Alabama. Consider the arguments as given. Oklahoma rose above then #2 Alabama after beating Nebraska, the logic being "well, Oklahoma beat Nebraska and Alabama didn't." Once that argument is brought in, however, ou can't just drop it, and this is the strongest point in favor of Alabama - the simple truth is, Notre Dame lost to Ole Miss while Alabama did not. If the argument is "well, we beat #1," well, USC was #1 when Alabama beat them. Should Alabama have pole vaulted all the teams ranked 2-6 (basically like Notre Dame did) and been number one? I don't recall any Irish voices using that argument after the Alabama-USC game. Alabama and Notre Dame had three common opponents - Alabama beat all 3 and Notre Dame beat 2 but lost to the worst one. Do yourself a favor - go look at all of the one-loss champions in college football since 1968 (and 1974 for the UPI). THEN go look at all the teams from 1936-1968 who won national championships with a loss.

Here's the entire list of teams who have won national titles during the polling era while losing to a team with a losing record:
1977 Notre Dame

That is all. When USC was in the running 2007, the understanding of pollsters was that USC could not be permitted to play for the championship because they'd lost to a 41-point underdog Stanford. When Oklahoma State was in the discussion against Alabama in 2011, the very argument made was the their loss was to 6-6 Iowa State (who wound up 6-7). This despite the fact that OSU had played a much tougher schedule. Tougher schedules are thrown out the window when you lose to mediocre football teams. This was known prior to January 2, 1978, and it has been practiced without fail ever since. In 2017, one of the best Tweets regarding the playoff controversy was, in fact, from a Georgia who wrote: "Alabama, like Ohio State, played a lot of lousy teams; unlike Ohio St, they didn't lose to any of them." And that drove home the point. Iowa wound up 8-5; Ole Miss is still to this day in 1977 the only time in poll history where a losing team administered the loss to the national champions. But there's still another argument in favor of Alabama: the simple fact that prior to the game, Alabama was both ranked higher AND had a first-place vote whereas Notre Dame was ranked lower and did not. This means the perception PRIOR TO Notre Dame playing Texas was that Alabama was better.

c) Arkansas' case

Arkansas played the weakest schedule of the three. However, they DID have the "best loss" as they only lost to Texas, 13-9. They played two good teams and narrowly lost to one and blew out Oklahoma in the bowl while missing several players in the other.

d) Penn State's case

The Lions played a solid schedule. But here is where the rubber meets the road. It's difficult to justfiy ranking Penn State AHEAD of Kentucky, who beat them by 4. And once that argument is invoked, the discussion is now down to a tete-a-tete between Alabama and Notre Dame.

7) Did the right team win the national championship?

How could ANY "right" team win the national championship short of Texas beating Notre Dame? The moment the season ended with so many one-loss teams. Even after coming up 28 points short in a de facto home game, two voters (affectionately known as "Dumb and Dumber") actually voted Texas first. At least there was some logic to this in 1983 when four voters chose Nebraska after a narrow one-point loss on Miami's home field; to say this after watching the demolition was ludicrous.

What should have happened - AT WORST - was a split national championship between Alabama and Notre Dame. This was what sort of became the fallback position in the early 90s when it was uncertain which team was the best. Give both of them a national championship due to the simple fact they don't get to play each other. In this particular case, the voters said in the most literal way possible, "Notre Dame is not one of the four best teams in the country" and then after Notre Dame got to play the #1 ranked team ONLY because they weren't one of those four best teams and locked into a contract, Notre Dame won. All things being equal, it's just as reasonable that Alabama could have beaten Texas by 28 points, too. They just didn't get the opportunity. Ara Parseghian, who apparently was sent on a mission from Satan to ensure the lives of Alabama fans were miserable, was now a TV commentator, and he weighed in with the idea that "if you beat #1, you should become #1." This is the same guy who earlier thought tying was good enough - and who the very next year would abandon that same claim when it was Alabama yet again.

There were two possible just outcomes in 1977, and only two:
1) Alabama as the consesnsus national champion OR
2) A split title between the Tide and the Irish

The analytics favor Notre Dame except at the most important point. You simply cannot lose to a team with a losing record. National champions lose to teams in the top ten, maybe 20 with the occasional 8-5 upset. Notre Dame had a very good team in 1977. They played the toughest schedule.

But the fact they didn't lose to, say, Pitt but lost instead to one of the worst teams on the docket is proof positive they had no business being champions. 1966 is an understandable flaw as bad as it is. 1977, however, was total highway robbery
 

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We did have a variant of a playoff that year, with OU Nebraska Bama and Auburn all undefeated and playing each other in the last game of the regular season. I think the Bowls picked before those games and guessed right. Also I think Colorado finished 3rd in the final poll giving the Big8 1-2-3. Hard to believe we haven’t played Nebraska in going on 43 years.
Tom Osborne says we are ducking the huskers.
 

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1978 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Alabama 11-1
UPI Champion: USC 12-1

1) Polls so often seem like Supreme Court precedents......


Just prior to the telecast of the 1991 Orange Bowl, NBC sideline host Bob Costas laid out for the viewers exactly what to expect from the upcoming national championship vote in both the AP and UPI. Noting that perhaps Miami was the nation's best team, he clarified for everyone that what matters is NOT who the best team is, who would be favored in a playoff or anything else - the question of who would win the championship came down to "precedent." And thanks to what happened in 1977, Alabama walked away with an AP national championship that, in all honesty, was specious at best and downright absurd at worst.

There is little doubt Alabama had a solid team in 1978. There is likewise very little doubt that Alabama was one of the 3-5 best teams in the USA, in all honesty no worse on their worst day than third.

There is also little doubt that Alabama got beat by USC, 24-14, at home. And if you are going to take "head to head" games with any level of seriousness, this has to be taken into account. Yes, USC lost to Arizona State - but that loss simply does not miraculously transform Alabama's loss to USC to a win. (It is also the height of Alabama hypocrisy to argue the transitive property with Ole Miss in 1977 but reject head-to-head 12 months hence).

So how did Alabama win the AP national title? More amazing still - why was Alabama ranked #2 in the UPI poll heading into the bowl games, only to lose the national championship vote despite tying USC with 15 first-place votes?

There was not one single argument that could be used to justify the selection of Alabama over USC. A double-digit head-to-head loss at home, one fewer game played, a weaker schedule (though admittedly a tough one) - all of the usual arguments, every single one of them, went hard in favor of USC and against Alabama. And while USC may not have faced off with #1 in the nation in the bowl game, they did play a solid #5 in a classic Rose Bowl and won.

a) Alabama's case came down to two crucial points - beating #1 and Charles White's phantom TD.

Just one year earlier, the clinching argument for the national championship was the overly simplistic, "Well, Notre Dame beat unbeaten and #1 Texas so they're now number one." Alabama - and Jeff Rutledge was among the louder ones - began quoting that mantra from moments after the 1978 Iron Bowl. "Well, last year they told us..." to writers went over quite well, although Tony Nathan dissented from that line by saying that if he had a vote, USC would get it because of the head-to-head result. Alabama was #2 this time and beat #1, so in all honesty - based on the fact the AP voters were virtually all the same people as one year previous, Alabama winning it should have been a no-brainer. Of course, there was a complication that differentiated the 1978 Alabama case from the 1977 Notre Dame one - Notre Dame had not lost to Alabama head-to-head in 1977 like Alabama had, in fact, lost to USC in 1978. The other was the case of the touchdown that wasn't.

AP voters HAVE at times considered the effect of bad officiating calls that affect final outcomes and have - at least sometimes - acted accordingly. The most famous example is probably in 1990, when the AP poll dropped Colorado two spots in their first poll subsequent to the Fifth Down controversy against Missouri. Both polls have punished teams that were deemed to benefit "unfairly" from bad calls. It is therefore not completely improper to conclude that the AP voters in 1978 looked at the fact Charles White's non-TD, when he fumbled at the goal line (a fact White himself has admitted) and figured "at best they tie, at worse they lose, and that makes Alabama the champion."

Alabama nabbed 38 first-place votes to USC's 19, a stat that suggests they should have won it going away - but then you have to remember that one-loss Oklahoma, who had avenged their sole (fluke) loss to Nebraska got some FPVs as well, a circumstance that unquestionably got Alabama some third-place votes at best.

b) the polls once again demonstrated cognitive dissonance

In 1977, Alabama was sitting pretty at #2 when Oklahoma routed Nebraska. The AP voters reasoned - defensibly and quite sensibly - that since Alabama's sole loss was to Nebraska and OU had beaten Nebraska, the Sooners should be ranked ahead of Alabama. (Their big sin was not following this logic the next poll).

But in 1978, Alabama had to stand in total shock and watch Nebraska beat #1 Oklahoma and then JUMP the very same Alabama team in the polls that had beaten them, 20-3. Of course, Alabama was rated of USC at the time, too, but in the November 13 poll one can argue it is defensible only on the grounds Alabama had played more games to that point. But how in the world can you possibly rate NEBRASKA with a 17-point loss ahead of the team that beat them?

In the final poll, Texas finished the year one spot ahead of Houston with the same record...and a head-to-head loss to.....Houston. On top of that, you had NC State at 18th and Maryland at 20 with the same record.....and a 31-7 Maryland win over the Wolfpack. (At least Texas only lost 10-7).

c) Much of the confusion comes from the fact it was a three-team race

Lost in the split national championship is the fact that Oklahoma was also a contender. Once more, you have THREE TEAMS splitting votes - and because two of those teams played each other, the center of attention focuses on those two teams. That has happened before - and it will happen again, too.

Can a case be made for Oklahoma? Well almost. An OU partisan would likely present the case like this:

"Oklahoma had the nation's best offense and in their one head-to-head match with an opponent of USC (Stanford), both teams won by six points but OU's was on the road. Yes, Oklahoma DID lose to Nebraska thanks to a couple of fluke fumbles, but then again Oklahoma undid that sole loss by beating Nebraska in the Orange Bowl rematch. Alabama did not beat USC in any rematch nor did USC beat Arizona State. And finally, USC's joke of a touchdown won the game in the first place."

I just don't think such an argument is persuasive. Barry Switzer said he thought OU had the nation's best offense and Alabama had the best defense - and that THAT should be "the national championship game." And let's assume solely for the sake of argument that Switzer was correct. The bowl obligations assured that the ONLY way that could have happened is if Nebraska had beaten Missouri and won the Big Eight outright.

2) Did the right team win the national championship?

In the UPI, yes. In the AP, absolutely not.

This is where voting for these things gets so specious. Alabama deserved the 1977 title and didn't get it; they didn't deserve the 1978 title but DID get it. (I would point out that the pro-Oklahoma argument is immediately open to attack as, "Well, Alabama didn't beat USC the first time but Oklahoma didn't beat Nebraska, either; who's to say what would happen in a rematch?"). The 1978 Alabama team was an EXCITING team to watch on both sides of the ball. It was almost the perfect blend - against a challenging schedule - of the 77 team's offense and the 79 team's all-world defense.

But we have no choice but to respect the results on the field. USC didn't beat Alabama on a disputed referee's call that swung the game like, say, 1995 Arkansas or even 2011 LSU. At one point they led 24-7. On the road. In the humid South. In September!

One better game record, a tougher schedule, and a dominant head-to-head win on the road are sufficient to say that USC should be the national champions and sole ones for 1978.

But again - my equilibrium theory of college football is proven true, and this is one of the many pieces of evidence that validates it (and helped give rise to it). Selma's Equilibrium Theory states: "A college football team will win championships commensurate to their overall historical place in the game; what is lost in one year will be gained in another."

Alabama won the 1965 title over a freak series of circumstances when they should not have; they lost the 1966 title almost as recompense. Same thing with 77-78. One lost, another gained. And it's not "just" Alabama where this happens. Miami did not "really" deserve their titles in 1983 or 1991, but they should have won three in a row in 86-87-88, when they only captured one. Georgia Tech probably did not deserve the 1990 title, but they got robbed in 1952. Colorado didn't deserve the 1990 title, either, but they were the best team in the country in 1989 and were undone by one bad half against Notre Dame.

Let me be clear, though: the vote for Alabama in 1978 was DEFENSIBLE (not inevitable or correct) on the grounds that they were ranked higher than USC because the voters thought they'd win a rematch, USC had a specious TD vs Michigan that was the difference in the game, and they knocked off #1 just as Notre Dame did the year prior. Unlike Notre Dame, Alabama didn't have to pole vault anyone in 1978.
 

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1979 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Alabama 12-0
Unbeaten teams with ties: #2 USC 11-0-1

1) Frank Broyles was livid and so was the entire state of Alabama.


I mean, go figure. Alabama starts the year at #1 just like in 1966. They go undefeated in the regular season just like 1966. Media disparages their schedules just like 1966. And then they drop from #1 just like 1966. You'll have to pardon Alabama fans for having a bit of an inferiority complex, but they sure seem to bear the brunt of polling bias to say the least.

In the poll published on December 4, 1979, no less than EIGHT AP voters dropped Alabama to third or worse, including one buffoon ranking the Tide at number five. With his Arkansas team preparing to face the Tide in the Sugar Bowl, Broyles unloaded in public on the anonymous voter by saying, "Anyone who thinks Alabama is not one of the three best teams in the country doesn't know enough about football to be ranking teams. What did Alabama do wrong?" The drops enabled Ohio State to take just enough votes for a slight edge that put them #1 going into the bowl games, a fact that led Earle Bruce, the Buckeyes' first-year coach to suddenly begin saying that the Rose Bowl was "the national championship game."

2) Strength of Schedule - a good argument gone bad.

Ranking college football teams is an imprecise science consisting of both objective and subjective methodology. There's the "eye test," where a team looks unstoppable. There's the analytics, their overall performance against each foe, comparison of same opponents and - way down the list - is the overall strength of schedule, which fools people not because it's not a valid argument but because it is NOT a "winner take all" argument. The flaw in evaluating SoS is the pretense that because Team A plays a schedule that ranks 9th and Team B plays one that ranks 18th, Team A is INDISPUTABLY the superior team "because they played the tougher schedule." This is demonstrable nonsense, of course. Alabama played a much tougher schedule than Clemson did in 2018 - and Clemson blew the Tide right off the field (and some Alabama partisans more into "saving face" than admitting coaching failures justify this with "yeah because they didn't have to play anyone all year"). The SoS argument is a good one IF there is a SUBSTANTIAL difference in SoS between teams otherwise similar. It's also a good argument IF - key point here - the team being evaluated lost A CLOSE GAME to ONE OF THE BETTER TEAMS on the schedule. In 2011, for example, Oklahoma State DID play a much tougher schedule than Alabama did. That part is true. But it is also irrelevant. Alabama lost a narrow overtime decision to "the other best team in the country" by 3 points. Oklahoma State, by contrast, blew a 24-7 third quarter lead to a team with a losing record. That loss overrides any appeals to "but they played a tougher schedule." You can have a signature win that undoes it OR you can have a "nobody recovers from this one" loss. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNDERSTOOD!!! When Florida State won a controversial 1993 title over Notre Dame despite losing head-to-head, their solid schedule enabled a tiny bit of forgiveness for losing what turned out to be a close game to the Irish on the road. There is every reason for a rational voter to conclude, "If that game was anywhere but South Bend, FSU wins." But you cannot lose to the worst team on your schedule or even a team that wouldn't be in a bowl game without the win they managed to get over you, either. Anyone who saw LSU, Alabama, and Oklahoma State play games that year - and understood anything about the game - KNEW from watching that LSU and Alabama were on one level, Okie State was below that. The loss to Iowa State didn't turn Oklahoma St from a good team to a bad one; it turned them from a national title contender to "you've got to be kidding me" in assessing their value. Alabama had several Iowa States on their schedule, and they blew every one of them right off the field without blinking.

Reminder: teams are ranked based on the ACCUMULATION of ALL data, not just cherry-picked talking points. You can't sit there looking at two teams - one obviously superior to the other - and then throw the whole argument out the window by simply saying, "But this team played a tougher schedule." In a bizarre way, ranking teams is very similar to Baseball Hall of Fame voting, including all the requisite politics. To use a notable example, when Brooks Robinson was admitted to the Hall, folks began using his lifetime batting average of .267 to argue that a right fielder who hit .275 was now somehow a great Hall of Fame selection. This, of course, is ludicrous on its face since a right fielder who hit .267 wouldn't be in the big leagues very long unless (like Reggie Jackson) he was capable of slamming 563 home runs. When one compares, say, UCF with a one-loss SEC champion, the flaws assuming a neutral starting point should be obvious to everyone with a solitary active brain cell. Look at UCF's schedule in 2017 and then ask yourself - would not Clemson, Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State, and Alabama...and in all honesty PROBABLY Wisconsin, a healthy Auburn, Penn St and probably every single team in the Top 14 go undefeated against that nonsense? UCF partisans, of course, seize on " but we beat Auburn," but it's long been understood that there's a HUGE difference between facing that schedule week after week and facing a solitary game with a month to prepare. If Auburn beats UCF, they get mocked because they should beat them; if they lose, they get mocked as being overrated.

3) But how does this relate to 1979?

In the whole "let's discredit Alabama" department, the strength of schedule argument was invoked. It was a phantom argument both then and now. Alabama's opponents had an overall record of 49-73-2. Ohio State's opponents were all of three games better, largely because Florida was truly awful in 1979 and also because Alabama was forced into an unattractive game with Wichita St after SMU bailed out on the rematch. The point-by-point got absurd.

"Ohio State has faced more bowl teams" - true only because 8-3 Auburn was on probation.
"Ohio State scored more ppg" - 1.4 ppg isn't worth dropping a team from number one.
"Alabama barely beat Auburn" - an 8-win Auburn; Ohio St barely beat 1-10 Northwestern, too, and needed a late blocked punt to beat Michigan by fewer points than Alabama beat Auburn

The most damning case against Ohio State, though, was the fact they were 7.5 point underdogs to USC while Alabama was a nine-point favorite over 10-1 Arkansas.

The issue - just so we're clear - is NOT "this is a no brainer ranking and Ohio State is awful." But dropping a team that has been #1 all year long with such petty justifications bordered on the absurd.

4) Did the right team win the national championship?

This one was easy only because Ohio State lost to USC by one point. In all likelihood, a split decision would have resulted again had the Buckeyes won.

The 1970s were over as was the Paul Bryant era, the fading of the legend already in motion on that January morning. College football is about to go through a decade plus of disputed champions, wrong champions, inconsistent method, and finally put a national championship game on the field that leaves the fans wanting more of that.
 

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1980 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Georgia 12-0
UPI National champion: Georgia

1) "The Formula" is now the means to the national championship.


To be fair, Georgia did not by any means invent "the formula," but 1980 showed that the formula was still the best way to win the national championship. Georgia did it in finishing first and Pitt did it finishing second.

1973 - Notre Dame
1976 - Pitt
1979 - Alabama

The Formula worked like this:
a) go undefeated
b) do so by not playing anyone particularly stellar
c) have one central offensive player who gets all the ink and the ball enough to contend for the Heisman
d) win one game with an incredibly memorable play that puts your name in the discussion
e) win your bowl game regardless how poor you play and then dare the pollsters to not vote you #1

It didn't work for 1966 Alabama, but it began working in the 1970s and it wasn't until a series of unrepeatable circumstances landed a national title atop Brigham Young University that outrage reached peak levels.

Georgia was NOT the best team in America in 1980. Hell, they may not have even been the best team in the SEC as they drew a schedule that conveniently allowed them to avoid playing the other two best teams in the conference, Alabama and Mississippi State. But a series of circumstances took the Bulldogs to #1 and then they had just enough to beat Notre Dame. Beating Notre Dame in a bowl game in January 1981 - no matter how much a fluke - was enough to assure the Dawgs a national title. (By contrast, Georgia probably WAS the best team in the country in 1981 but didn't win it all. Equilibrium).

Ohio State was the pre-season #1, but once the games began, the voters went with the Tide. When Alabama lost a 6-3 shocker to Miss St on November 1 - ending a 28-game Tide winning streak - Notre Dame rose to the top. They fell off the perch a week later when, perhaps looking ahead to Alabama, they wound up in a 3-3 tie with Georgia Tech. On that same day, Georgia pulled off the play of the year in the waning moments of the Florida game, Buck Belue to Lindsay Scott cutting across the field and outrunning the Gators to the end zone for a dazzling 93-yard death blow. Georgia rose to the top of the polls, largely helped by Pitt's failure to beat Florida State. But Pitt was NOT Notre Dame, and the escalating monies of the Sugar Bowl were enough to pit Georgia against Notre Dame and set up yet another unsatisfying conclusion to a season.

2) Georgia vs Florida State - the game that never happened

Although I'm clear that UGA was not the best team in the country that year, they DID have the best player in Herschel Walker. But when the bowl bids were bouncing around like a pinball, why didn't they match up #3 Florida State with #1 Georgia? As always, the answer goes back to money.

In 1980, the payouts (by ranking) were as follows:
Rose
Orange
Sugar
Cotton

The Rose, of course, was set, but it was the problem of the OTHER games that caused this to work out the way it did.

The Orange Bowl feared it was going to get stuck with a 2-loss team, as indeed is what happened. But there was a bigger problem because the team they thought was coming, Nebraska, had already lost to Florida State. The Cotton Bowl had an even bigger problem because it was obvious that Baylor was going to win the SWC, and how could you get anyone to tune in to watch Baylor? The Cotton Bowl's answer was to cut a back door deal with Alabama if they lost to Notre Dame to come to Dallas. Alabama was the #2 draw behind the Irish at the time, and it was clear an Irish win would give Notre Dame the leverage for whichever bowl they wanted. When Notre Dame beat Alabama, the Irish (on that day) had the inside track to another national title as well as a truckload of money - simply go beat #1 Georgia and start screaming about the 1977 precedent as if it was an ironclad law. After the game was set, Notre Dame blew it for everyone by losing to USC and badly, 20-3. Because Notre Dame was the big name with a shot at the title, they got the Sugar Bowl. The Orange Bowl now had a major problem, so they solved it the best they could. They chose Florida State, figuring that in a worst-case scenario of a rematch, at least the fact the game was in Florida would hopefully draw fans to buy tickets. They got a break when Oklahoma won the Big Eight - and this left Pittsburgh holding a very heavy bag. With all the big names in the big bowls, Pitt was left to scrounge for the Gator Bowl, one of the higher-paying non-elite bowls but also not on New Year's Day. Smoking South Carolina in the bowl meant nothing to Pitt. Georgia won the national championship with a 17-10 win over Notre Dame.

2) Did the right team win the national championship?

The best team - which was probably Florida State - didn't but the RIGHT team based on the criteria did, yes. Georgia played a horrific schedule, avoided the 2 and 3 seeds from the SEC, scraped by the South Carolina team that Pittsburgh mauled and beat Notre Dame despite having only 127 yards of total offense. When you remember that Herschel Walker himself rushed for 150, you realize how bad Georgia played in the game. Irish turnovers served up a title.

No, the problem was not with Georgia, it was with the system. Pitt didn't play anyone worth a damn, either; more precisely, they didn't beat anyone worth a damn, their only loss coming to their only decent foe, Florida State. Under the circumstances, Georgia was the right choice, but the circumstances needed a major overhaul.
 
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1981 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Clemson 12-0
UPI Champion: Clemson

1) Years don't usually come easier than this one.


Clemson's 1981 title was the mirror of the Georgia 1980: wind up the only unbeaten, win your bowl game against a prestigious program, and walk away with the trophy. Their schedule wasn't overly taxing as the Tigers were the only team in the country to beat three teams ranked in the final top eight. Of course, that's mostly because Clemson's schedule otherwise was absolute trash, which is why one AP voter chose two-loss Penn State as the national champion.

2) No fewer than seven programs were ranked #1 this year.

This was a record year, surpassing the six different teams that held the top spot in 1965. Four decades later, this is STILL the record, and the only time this happened. Fans who recall the carnage of 1984, 1990, 2001, and 2007 barely yawn at the mention of 1981, but every time fans turned around there was a new number one in the AP poll. That's why Clemson's title was such a shock - they weren't ranked on top until Pitt collapsed against Penn State in the regular season finale. Their beating Georgia did shock everyone, but the Bulldogs had nine turnovers, so it was felt to largely be a fluke. Ironically, this fact worked in Clemson's favor. When the bowl bids were rolling out, all eyes were on #1 Pittsburgh. This would have been a time to think outside the box for the Fiesta Bowl, but financially they could not compete. Since it was a safe bet that Georgia would win out late and enable ABC and the Sugar Bowl to feature 1982 Heisman contenders Herschel Walker and Dan Marino, potentially for the national championship. Alabama quickly took a Cotton Bowl payday with Texas, so Clemson - despite not being #1 and being relatively unwanted - wound up in a national title game in the Orange Bowl thanks to Pitt's collapse.

Entering the bowls, there were four possible national champions:
a) if Clemson won, it was over.
b) if Alabama beat Texas and then Nebraska and Pitt won, the Tide would win Bryant's 7th title
c) if Georgia beat Pitt and Clemson lost, UGA would win their second straight championship
d) if Nebraska beat Clemson and Alabama and UGA lost, Nebraska was the probable champion

I cannot emphasize how GOOD THIS WAS in one sense - three of the bowl games meant something even with the potentially unsatisfactory ending. In the end, Alabama blew a 10-0 lead in the fourth to lose to Texas, 14-12. Georgia gave up a fourth and long bomb to the end zone from 33 yards out by Dan Marino to lose to Pitt, 24-20. And Clemson absolutely owned Nebraska in every way, going out to a 22-7 lead en route to a 22-15 victory that won the championship.

3) Did the right team win the national championship?

It's difficult to say that Clemson was the best team in the country because ACC televised games were very rare in 1981. When N Carolina and Clemson played the marquee 2 vs 9 clash on November 7, it marked only the 9th time in the entire history of televised football that an ACC game was the national broadcast. Personally, I think Georgia was better in 1981 than in 1980, and I honestly do believe that had they played a rematch that the Dawgs would have won, mostly because despite a whopping NINE turnovers and Herschel Walker's worst game carrying the ball (Walker fumbled at the Clemson 10 in the first quarter), Clemson only beat Georgia, 13-3. They certainly deserve credit for that, but it doesn't mean they were the best team any more than the Giants beating the 49ers in the 1990 NFC title game meant they were the best team. But what Clemson has going for it is that despite a schedule largely consisting of nobodies, Clemson played AND BEAT three teams in the final top eleven - Georgia, N Carolina, and Nebraska. Alabama beat one (Penn State) and still wound up ranked four spots behind them despite only 1/2 game difference. What makes this ludicrous is Penn State had one game worse record than Pitt but was only one spot ahead of them; Alabama blew out Penn State on the road and was still ranked four spots lower.

Clemson was probably not the "best team," but yes they were the "right team" to win the 1981 championship, too. Who else in the list should have won it? Nobody.
 

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1982 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Penn State 11-1
Undefeated teams with ties: #2 SMU 11-0-1
UPI Champion: Penn St


This was the first ACTUAL controversy that I can remember as a college football fan, so I can provide a little more perspective going forward than the dry newsprint I've read for some of these. This was a bona fide controversy, and it was really the first time I recall discussions of "strength of schedule" determining the final vote. I'm not saying it never happened prior to this as it clearly did, I'm saying I had never heard it.

1) Penn State vs Nebraska was the defining game of the season.

The two teams met the last weekend of September in Happy Valley when both were ranked in the Top Ten. Trailing 24-21, Penn State went on a drive that the officials kept going when Mike McCloskey caught the ball out of bounds but was ruled in bounds by the lineman. The play put Penn State at the Nebraska 2 with nine seconds left, and they scored the TD that won the game. McCloskey has even admitted he was out of bounds and this error along with the Preston Gothard "non-TD" in 1983 gave Penn State a reputation as a place where the officials rigged the outcomes of close games. It should be noted even by the standards of 1982, the officials were on top of it by admitting the following week (after a film review) that they botched the call.

Nebraska fans, of course, have spent the last 40 years whining about the "stolen national championship," but surely they got a measure of revenge not once but twice, snagging the 1994 title that should have been a split with Penn State (of all teams) and snagging the 1997 title thanks to the officials not flagging the receiver for kicking the ball. But this whole "we really beat Penn St and therefore we're the champs falls away when viewed at the micro level.

a) Let's suppose Nebraska actually beats Penn State (even though none of their fans EVER mention that right before the bad call, Penn State converted a 4th and 11 while at the Nebraska 28).

In all probability, Penn State isn't invited to the Sugar Bowl, which removes Georgia's loss since you cannot assume someone else would have beaten them. In 1982 - as difficult as this may be for some people to understand - Georgia was the bigger name and had the bigger draw, Herschel Walker. Georgia probably draws either Pitt or Florida State, wins the Sugar Bowl - and wins the national championship.

b) Nebraska was the biggest choke artist of the 1980s, so why do they assume they would have won?
From 1978 to 1993, NO TEAM blew more big games that would have won them hardware than Nebraska did. Even Florida State, who refined this to an art form in the late 80s, didn't blow as many chances as Tom Osborne's Nebraska crew did.

1978 - #2 in the country and just beat Oklahoma. They're about to get the Orange Bowl against #1 Penn St for the national title matchup. They somehow lose to 6-4 Missouri at home and then lose to OU in the Orange Bowl.

1981 - a win with an UGA loss to Pitt likely wins the national title against Clemson. Nebraska loses, 22-15, in a game that wasn't even that close.

1982 - yes, it was a bad call, but it wasn't a touchdown, you still had some plays. And you gave up a 4th and 11.

1983 - "the greatest team ever" falls behind heavy underdog Miami, 17-0, and loses the national title.

1984 - despite an ugly loss to Syracuse, the pollsters aren't fond of BYU, so one-loss Nebraska gets a second chance at the title. Naturally, they lose 17-7 to Oklahoma - again at home.

1985 - ranked #2 in the country, they lose AGAIN to Oklahoma, 27-7.

1986 - ranked #3 in October with a clear shot at the title, Nebraska loses to 2-4 Colorado, who uses this victory to create their great late 80s teams.

1987 - the week prior to the showdown with Oklahoma, the pollsters are so impressed they flip the teams, Nebraska taking over #1 from Oklahoma. QB Steve Taylor actually says - and I quote - " The flat-out truth is, Oklahoma can’t play with us. They are not good enough. Let me tell you, it might not even be close, and I mean that." Taylor was right, it wasn't close. Oklahoma beat him, 17-7. IN LINCOLN.

1989 - ranked #3, Nebraska loses a deeply emotional game to Colorado, who has promised to go to the Orange Bowl for fallen quarterback Sal Aunese, who died of cancer weeks earlier. Despite taking a lead on the first play from scrimmage, Nebraska loses, 27-21.

1990 - leading 12-0 in the 4th quarter of a game that will make them #1 in the nation, Nebraska again collapses at home and surrenders 27 Colorado points in the final 12 minutes. The Huskers wind up being the only team in BOTH 1990 and 1991 to lose to the co-national champions.

1993 - undefeated and #2 in the nation, Nebraska gives a valiant effort but loses a national title showdown to FSU, 18-16.

c) Nebraska barely beat an above average at best LSU team, 21-20, in the Orange Bowl.

Now given all that data.....why do Nebraska fans ASSUME that if they were unbeaten and facing LSU that they would have won? There was not one single time from 1978-1993 when Nebraska DID NOT choke. Not. One. It's a gratuitous assumption to think they win out if they beat Penn State.

2) The controversy of Penn State vs SMU was largely a case of good vs evil but in reverse.

The Penn State Head Coach - in 1982 - supposedly represented all the good things of college football and SMU all the bad things. This played into the narrative. Never mind that nobody was molesting kids at SMU, just paying players like happens everywhere.

Penn State rose because of the rapidly building precedent: "he who beats #1 in the final game becomes #1." Notre Dame in 77, Alabama in 78, Penn State in 82. And this would continue with Miami in 83 as well.

3) Did the right team win the national championship?

Although I was pretty steamed about it at the time, the answer is "yes." SMU had a lot of narrow wins. The Penn State loss by 21 points to Alabama wasn't "really" a bad loss; Penn State was only down by six with five minutes left and then imploded. But they did have a stellar offense in 1982 - Todd Blackledge and Curt Warner primarily - and they did beat number one. SMU slept through a ho-hum win over Pitt in the Cotton Bowl, 7-3. It should be noted that SMU's schedule was nearly as bad as BYU's was in 1984. Indeed, there is a strong argument that both Nebraska AND Georgia should be rated higher than SMU was.
 

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What I'm learning from this fantastic thread is that despite all the nostalgia I have for the old bowl system, the bowl tie-ins, I really do NOT prefer it anymore. I've been blinded by that nostalgia and have glossed over all of the back room dealing and shenanigans that have actually been a plague on the game.

Despite how "right" it seems to have the Big Ten/Pac 12 facing off in the Rose, the SEC in the Sugar, and the Big 8 in the Orange, it was a massive drag on the game and only benefited the Bowls themselves.
 

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1983 AP FINAL POLL
National champion: Miami 11-1
UPI National champion: Miami

1) The BCS championship we never saw - Nebraska vs Texas.


Prior to 1983, it had been an entire decade since college football had had a regular season end with two unbeaten teams that were not on probation and were generally considered equivalent enough to desire to see the teams play (nobody took Arizona St serious in 1975 or Maryland in 1976). As the season progressed, fans desperately wanted to see the perceived two best teams in America - the nation's best offense, Nebraska against the nation's best defense, Texas - for the national championship. There were no other contenders to the throne, and the entire season consisted of the frustration that the two teams could not play one another. The punditry obsession with OFFENSIVE STATS dominated the discussion, but it was a game everyone wanted to see.

What the nation got instead was 1977 all over again but with a much more interesting twist: unlike the bowl games of 1977 that were all blowouts, the three big games on January 2, 1984 ended with point margins of one, one, and two points, two amazing games and one bore-fest that might have cost the winner the national title. But the contractual agreements forbid it. Nebraska had to go make millions in the Orange Bowl. Texas had to go make millions in the Cotton Bowl. And neither bowl game was going to let their draw out of the contract and forfeit the viewing audience. An exciting day of games culminated in perhaps the most controversial vote in history as five one-loss teams ended the year in the top five spots.

2) When the press overrates the top team, the winner becomes a legend.

The entire Pacific Northwest was stripped of lumber to print all of the bloviating nonsense that sportswriters spouted about Nebraska in 1983. They blew Penn State off the field in the first Kickoff Classic, and the press never stopped giving the Huskers a collective tongue bath. They scored more points than any team ever had at that point despite playing a schedule consisting largely of nobodies and the past reputation of Penn State (who wasn't very good in 1983). The two times they played a stout defense - Oklahoma and Oklahoma State (coached by Jimmy Johnson btw) - they escaped with wins of 4 and 8 points. Nebraska was awesome and nobody could beat them.

BECAUSE of that four-month calibration of crap, Miami's lucky win - and if you watch the game you have to admit much of it was based on luck - transformed them into the Buster Douglas of 1983 (if I may be anachronistic for a moment). And nobody rains on the Buster Douglas parade.

3) The bowl game carnage was legendary.

Texas was humming along on the verge of beating Georgia and fumbled away a punt in their own territory that led to UGA's only TD which was enough to win, 10-9. Auburn kicked a field goal to beat Michigan in the waning moments, 9-7. And Tom Osborne's decision to go for two probably cost the Huskers the national title after it failed.

4) The vote was - to be blunt about it - a complete joke.

It was bad enough that Miami was basically given a national championship based solely on the fact the press overrated Nebraska. But to make it worse, Nebraska finished second and still got 4.5 first-place votes. Despite 7 votes, Auburn finished third, an egregious oversight that increased the clamor for a playoff.

Once the bowl games eliminated Nebraska and Texas, the entire thing came down to a vote of Miami vs Auburn. Georgia had a loss and a tie - but with the loss to Auburn, Georgia merited zero consideration for the top spot. The AP voters did what they had done previously - "he who beats #1 in the final game becomes #1" was enough to lift Miami to their first national championship and launch a dynasty.

Then there's Ohio State, a team that (in fact) was ranked too highly in every single poll from 1980-86. The insanity in 1983 was that Ohio State finished 9th at 9-3, ahead of Rose Bowl loser Illinois, who was 10-2. Never mind that Illinois beat Ohio State. Or that Iowa, also 9-3, is also below Ohio State and beat them by six. Sometimes brand names ARE, in fact, overrated, not that I'm trying to pick on Ohio State.

5) Did the right team win the national championship?
Hell no, the 1983 national championship was about as much highway robbery as 1977. One can easily argue it was substantially worse.

Miami's claim - their SOLE claim, in fact - to the national title was, "We beat Nebraska on our home field with a month to prepare for the game." Look over Miami's schedule and tell me what you see. THREE opponents (prior to Nebraska) with more than 7 wins: West Virginia, East Carolina, and Florida. And you can throw out ECU in 1983 as they were a low-level nobody. Oh, and Miami lost to Florida by 25 points.

Auburn, by contrast, not only played a tougher schedule, they played the FOURTH TOUGHEST SCHEDULE in the entire history of schedule rankings across all years. SIX of Auburn's opponents won 8 games or more, and Auburn beat 5 of them, INCLUDING the Florida team that beat Miami (by 25 I remind you) by a touchdown. Aside from those obvious points, an Auburn partisan could easily say, "Miami wasn't even the best team in the STATE of Florida, much less the entire USA."

The biggest argument anyone tries to make against Auburn goes like this: "but they only scored 9 points to beat Michigan."

And? Since when is "yeah, you beat a top ten team at a neutral site by twice as many points as the other team competing with you for a national title" any kind of argument at all? You have the best record against the toughest schedule and CANNOT play head-to-head because of some TV contracts - and you beat the one team that clobbered your opponent - you should be the national champion. I'm an Alabama fan who does not like Auburn at all, but they did get jobbed in 1983.
 
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