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Andre Smith: Combine/Decisions/Future

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"Andre is more of a power player at 330 pounds and Jason Smith and Monroe are more finesse and the combine is more about finesse."

Since when has playing on the line of scrimmage become a finesse game? I guess I missed the memo. I know I'm a Bama fan, but anybody who takes Jason Smith or Monroe above Andre will feel like a fool when he's a 5-8 time pro-bowler. He's had only 7 sacks his whole college career (starting from game 1 of his freshmen year, 5 of his sacks came in that season), 1 sack his senior year (he misread the front and thought the edge blitzer was an LB dropping and doubled the interior DL), and is the most dominating run blocker I've seen in the SEC in all my years of watching SEC football. He may not be an NFL left tackle long-term, but he will turn any team who drafts him into a top 5 run team...and we know that is what wins ball games and championships.


McShay might be employed by ESPN only to make hair-grease - oops, I mean Kiper - look like a draft genius. I don't know what's his deal. He also criticizes Smith for not deciding to run the drills at the combine in favor of the Alabama Pro Day. Maybe it's because the staff is running the pro day and it will probably look a lot like our practices: fast-paced, no-nonsense, and pro-like. He can do the same thing Jason Smith and Monroe will do, but he will do it in an atmosphere that shows he's mentally ready to be their pro.
 
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rgw said:
"Andre is more of a power player at 330 pounds and Jason Smith and Monroe are more finesse and the combine is more about finesse."

Since when has playing on the line of scrimmage become a finesse game? I guess I missed the memo. I know I'm a Bama fan, but anybody who takes Jason Smith or Monroe above Andre will feel like a fool when he's a 5-8 time pro-bowler. He's had only 7 sacks his whole college career (starting from game 1 of his freshmen year, 5 of his sacks came in that season), 1 sack his senior year (he misread the front and thought the edge blitzer was an LB dropping and doubled the interior DL), and is the most dominating run blocker I've seen in the SEC in all my years of watching SEC football. He may not be an NFL left tackle long-term, but he will turn any team who drafts him into a top 5 run team...and we know that is what wins ball games and championships.


McShay might be employed by ESPN only to make hair-grease - oops, I mean Kiper - look like a draft genius. I don't know what's his deal. He also criticizes Smith for not deciding to run the drills at the combine in favor of the Alabama Pro Day. Maybe it's because the staff is running the pro day and it will probably look a lot like our practices: fast-paced, no-nonsense, and pro-like. He can do the same thing Jason Smith and Monroe will do, but he will do it in an atmosphere that shows he's mentally ready to be their pro.
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I've noticed the trend as of late to jump off the Andre bandwagon. His media draft stock keeps falling, but I'm sure the guys that make the decisions haven't lost sight of the talent/experience that Andre has.
 
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CrimsonDollar said:
I've noticed the trend as of late to jump off the Andre bandwagon. His media draft stock keeps falling, but I'm sure the guys that make the decisions haven't lost sight of the talent/experience that Andre has.
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When the NFL media horde can't see them work out at the NFL Combine they always jump off the bandwagon. Andre hasn't fallen in the eyes of NFL executives. Plus, he'll have a chance to wow them at the Alabama Pro Day next month.
 
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The last six words in the McShay quote you listed are the key. He's saying that the combine is more about finesse, not the game itself. The combine is more about showcasing individual skill sets than anything else, but one thing's for sure, the NFL doesn't take "weak" linemen. Big Dre should be just fine IMO.
 
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I doubt a predominantly passing team will have Andre as high on their list as a more balanced or run oriented offense. He has trouble with speed rushers but when it comes to run blocking he's one of the best. If I was a bottom feeder team that had a top five pick I'd pick him and build my offense into a smash mouth run oriented team like Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
 
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DiamondDust said:
The fact Andre didn't come to the combine in shape, is not working out with the rest of the linemen, and really can't be found at the combine will definitely not help him one bit.
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It happens seemingly every year. There's one guy entering the draft that is highly ranked then leading up to draft day seems to get a lot of media attention of "question marks" then on draft day plummets, ala Aaron Rodgers/Brady Quinn. Either way Andre will be a millionaire. But I hope with what happened in the Sugar Bowl and what seemingly is happening with him and the combine he doesn't lose millions upon millions of potential dollars. It could very well happen.
 
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I hope Andre knows what he's doing. :conf2: I would never "assume" what an NFL team is thinking and run the risk of dropping out of the big money slots. To say that "These NFL teams still see his talent...." and will still draft him just as high if he had participated in the combine is a big risk and a big assumption. The fact is no one knows what these teams are thinking or in what light they are looking at them. Again, I hope for Andre's sake this pre draft media attention he's getting isn't an indication of him plummeting in the draft and losing tons and tons of money.
 
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Its all rubbish really. I know the execs/scouts/coaches look at everything, but most of the silly stuff is over exaggerated by the media. While it doesn't look good right now that Dre admits he's not in the best shape, a team isn't exactly gonna pass up on him if he proves himself when he actually does present his abilities at pro day. Plus they know what he's capable of from his 3 years beasting in the SEC.

Just hope he Wows when the time comes
 
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...he'll make millions because left tackles are important because they protect the franchise and they make rb's all pros. So do you pull a Eli Manning or John Elway and tell Detroit that you aren't going to waste away in the freezing cold for a team that is inept as the auburn administration or do you not show up? it's a stretch but He'll get drafted in the teens - 20th pick by a team considered a possible contender. I'd love it if he fell to Jacksonville
 
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Someone is giving Andre some very bad advice. He was a fine player for Alabama, but everything he has done since the last week of December will set of red flags for the NFL. He is making a serious mistake.
 
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Possibly Detroit has informed him that he will be their pick and contract negotiations are already in progress, much like Long and Miami from last year.

In that case, I don't blame Andre. People have blown out knees in combine performances. Why take the chance if you already know you're the first pick?

However, if that's not the case then Andre's truly costing himself millions by a lack of effort and I don't feel sorry for him one little teeny weeny bit.

Because, even if there was indeed a character issue after the Sugar Bowl suspension he could have ended it by showing up ready to go and to prove himself at the combine.

I hope it's the first scenario I mentioned. I truly do. And there's a very big probability or possibility that it is, which would make the whole discussion moot.

If not though, and I'm an NFL Exec with my job on the line every single year, it's hey.."Tough Luck Dude...you blew it, we'll take the kid with half an ounce less talent and a pound more of desire".

alasippi
 
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Andre cost himself a bunch of money today. ESPN radio was saying that he'll end up as the 3rd or 4th tackle taken.
 
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tidefan23 said:
Andre cost himself a bunch of money today. ESPN radio was saying that he'll end up as the 3rd or 4th tackle taken.
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They also neglect to mention that he will work out at the Alabama Pro Day in March. He can regain momentum with a great performance. Plus, Andre doesn't have a lot to prove as far as some executives are concerned. NFL teams would be blind to take Eugene Monroe or Jayson Smith over Andre, or even Oher.
 
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Alasippi said:
Possibly Detroit has informed him that he will be their pick and contract negotiations are already in progress, much like Long and Miami from last year.

In that case, I don't blame Andre. People have blown out knees in combine performances. Why take the chance if you already know you're the first pick?

However, if that's not the case then Andre's truly costing himself millions by a lack of effort and I don't feel sorry for him one little teeny weeny bit.

Because, even if there was indeed a character issue after the Sugar Bowl suspension he could have ended it by showing up ready to go and to prove himself at the combine.

I hope it's the first scenario I mentioned. I truly do. And there's a very big probability or possibility that it is, which would make the whole discussion moot.

If not though, and I'm an NFL Exec with my job on the line every single year, it's hey.."Tough Luck Dude...you blew it, we'll take the kid with half an ounce less talent and a pound more of desire".

alasippi
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There is no way in heck Detroit or any team have made up their minds about the first pick before the combine and pro-days are completed.
 
Re: McShay is a fool [About Andre Smith]

Whatever happened to giving 100% at everything you do? Is this the best Andre can give? If not, why was he even there? No matter the reasons, this is an embarassment...
 
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If Andre gets his head straight he can be as good as he wants. He never seemed to have a bad attitude at UA. Maybe all the pressure from Agents, family and friends have made things no longer fun.
I hope Andre decides this is his dream and works for himself to get it.


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