Question: Auburn's James Willis hired as Bama's OLB coach/ How will this affect recruiting?

BAMAMICH

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Does anyone have a list of players he recruited to the barn?
The full list via Rivals:

COMMITMENTS

Terrance Coleman
Jonathan Evans
Nick Fairley
LaVoyd James
Clint Moseley
Jamontay Pilson
John Sullen

TARGETS

Justin Anderson DE
Mujahid Assad WR
Jon Bostic LB
Ontario Brown WR
Robert Cooper QB
Raymond Cotton QB
Steven Grandison OL
Anthony Gulley RB
Javen Harris LB
Parker Hollinghead LB
Carlton Johnson LB
Nico Johnson LB
Jamal Kidd LB
AJ McCarron QB
Brandon Moore OL
Joshua Phillips RB
Hans Rice LB
Trent Richardson RB
Marlin Sims DE
Abdul Smith DB
Orwin Smith RB
Alex Sparrow OL
Brian Taylor WR
Damien Thigpen ATH
Mike Thomas DE
Jamar Travis DT
Gerald West DB
Josh Williford OL
David Wilson RB
 

Airborne Tider

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on a side note...

was it worse for LT to leave Bama for UcheaT or for Willis to leave AU for Bama? considering they're both our rivals.
You know, its a dirty business. Lance had personal reasons so and Tennessee was offering a lot of money. He did what he had to. I would have been fine if he waited until Feb. 5th and then we hired Willis but it is what it is.

From what I hear Willis was unhappy at Auburn and actually contacted Nick to tell him he was interested in the open position. TIFWIW.
 

Bamaball2001

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You know, its a dirty business. Lance had personal reasons so and Tennessee was offering a lot of money. He did what he had to. I would have been fine if he waited until Feb. 5th and then we hired Willis but it is what it is.

From what I hear Willis was unhappy at Auburn and actually contacted Nick to tell him he was interested in the open position. TIFWIW.
I agree with you about Feb. 5th and I sure would like to know who contacted whom.

:BigA: RTR!
 

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on a side note...

was it worse for LT to leave Bama for UcheaT or for Willis to leave AU for Bama? considering they're both our rivals.
Willis to Bama - by far :)


This is really pretty funny and rather amazing that the TF's staff has managed to keep it off the boards . I've been pelted by barners for 2 days about it but , really didn't believe it would happen . I was telling one of them as late as 3pm this afternoon not to worry . Sorry :biggrin:
 

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The Auburn folks are in an uproar over this. You can't blame Willis for wanting to leave Auburn though. First, his new boss came in and fired him, then called him back once he realized he needed Willis to salvage recruiting. Word is they he was only getting paid about half as much as the other assistants, and he wasn't even sure what position he was going to coach. I'm sure in the back of his mind he felt that he may not be retained and that Chizik was only using him to salvage recruiting for this year.
 

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The Auburn folks are in an uproar over this. You can't blame Willis for wanting to leave Auburn though. First, his new boss came in and fired him, then called him back once he realized he needed Willis to salvage recruiting. Word is they he was only getting paid about half as much as the other assistants, and he wasn't even sure what position he was going to coach. I'm sure in the back of his mind he felt that he may not be retained and that Chizik was only using him to salvage recruiting for this year.
And to add salt to the wound when he was re-hired Lowder made him pay back his $70,000 severance pay.
 

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:BigA:He saw how all the other coaches were treated from Franklin to Tubbs and decided it was time to get out of Dodge. A great move on the part of Saban! We have all ways had great linebackers! We may become the linebacker U University! I guess he saw all the talent he is going to have to work with at Bama! :BigA:
 

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Yeah the funny part is that Coleman says he will not look at Bama anymore and that were ever he goes 2010 prospect Barry James goes, like either one is gonna get a full court press from us
 
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BAMAMICH

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Does it also say's he's pretty much looking elsewhere?

This has been an interested day in sports news indeed. On a side note, I hope CNS makes sure Petey is sold on the school and not just committing because of CJW ... just saying
 

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Well, he was what I not-so-lovingly called Awbarn's 'bag man' back during the Shula days. McNeil, Hawthorne, etc.... he was the closer on visits and in-homes, if he wasn't recruiting a kid from the get-go.

Saban/Willis > Saban/Thompson

Willis is a better position coach, IMO.
Agreed. Willis is more of the complete package as opposed to Thompson IMO.

As for which scenario stings more (to the parties involved), Thompson leaving Bama to go to UcheaT or Willis leaving the barn to come to Bama, the answer is an obvious one IMHO. It's Willis leaving the barn hands down. Not only do they lose their best recruiter and a former alum, but they lose him to their arch rival! :biggrin:
 

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this is insane to me. how do you go from not just an alum but a Letterman in football then go play against your most hated rival... dollar signs don't equate to the hate between Alabama and auburn....

don't get me wrong i would *LOVE* to see every barner on the face of the earth convert of over this, and would i like it that much more if they get the death penalty. but the fact is, that regardless of the circumstances surrounding his departure from the barn, this is a traitor like act. remember how everyone was when Thompson sniveled away? i personally don't know what to think. was he a good recruiter/coach, sure he was... but he still was a cow patty specialist... i support and respect him as one of our new Bama family members but its weird.

Is it a good thing we hired Willis? yes and if only for the reason it merely adds another torch that helped burn the barn down. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!:BigA:
 
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this is insane to me. how do you go from not just an alum but a letterman in football then go play against your most hated rival... dollar signs dont equate to the hate between alabama and auburn....

dont get me wrong i *LOVE* to see every barner on the face of the earth ....ed of over this, and would i like it that much more if they get the death penalty ? absolutley. but the fact is, that regardless of the circumstanes surrounding his departure from the barn, this is a traitor like act. remeber how ....ed everyone was when thompson snivled away? i personaly dont know what to think. was he a good recruiter/coach, sure he was... but he still was a cow patty specialist... i support and respect him as one of our new Bama family mebers but its wierd.

Is it a good thing we hired willis? yes and if only for the reson it merely adds another torch that helped burn the barn down. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!:BigA:
When you make it a profession your allegiance to a certain school (even your alma mater) sometimes has to take a back seat to your family and career. Coach Willis was being jerked around at the barn, he had not been assured of what position he would coach and could very well have been let go after the recuiting season.......he was only brought back to salvage their recruiting.

We have a hard time seeing why a coach would leave a school like Bama for another but the barn can't compare to Bama. CLT has his own reason for leaving Bama and whether we would justify them or not, they were real to him. CLT wasn't getting jerked around, like Willis at au, so his reasons were vastly different. It is easy to see that Coach Willis bettered himself but it is yet to be seen if CLT did.

I would have loved to keep CLT but I can see reason to be excited about the Willis hire and don't think we will miss a beat. His intensity will transfer to the lB's and I expect an improvement there.
 

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What's funny to me is that many UT fans were/still are expecting to get some Tide commits now that they have LT. They're still waiting. Now, Bama hires LT's replacement and within hours we get a new commit.
 

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this is insane to me. how do you go from not just an alum but a letterman in football then go play against your most hated rival... dollar signs dont equate to the hate between alabama and auburn....

dont get me wrong i *LOVE* to see every barner on the face of the earth ....ed of over this, and would i like it that much more if they get the death penalty ? absolutley. but the fact is, that regardless of the circumstanes surrounding his departure from the barn, this is a traitor like act. remeber how ....ed everyone was when thompson snivled away? i personaly dont know what to think. was he a good recruiter/coach, sure he was... but he still was a cow patty specialist... i support and respect him as one of our new Bama family mebers but its wierd.

Is it a good thing we hired willis? yes and if only for the reson it merely adds another torch that helped burn the barn down. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!:BigA:
It may seem a bit weird at first, but I'm glad we have him on board. He's a great coach and a great recruiter, and he has a big-time future in this business if he plays his cards right. These are exactly the type of people you want.

Honestly, I think it all boils down to the fact that we gave him a much better opportunity. He is an Auburn man, to be sure, but I think he was smart enough to see there was no future on the Plains. They may have very well fired him after the recruiting season ended, and even if not it's clear that the powers that be control the place anyway. If he wants to really take his career to the next level, I think he just realized he had to get away from Auburn, and when Alabama came along... well, there's not many programs who can offer what Nick Saban Alabama can.

And besides, all of these school connections often fade away. Just look through history a bit. Darrell Royal was an Oklahoma graduate. Pat Dye was a Georgia graduate. Vince Dooley was an Auburn graduate. David Cutcliffe was an Alabama graduate. You get the point... sure you often see times where "Mama calls," so to speak, but it's just as common to see coaches sacrifice former allegiances for career's sake.

Finally, no one should forget what he gave up to come to Alabama. This guy is a lifelong Auburn man, and after this -- as much little brother syndrome as they have -- Willis is effectively dead to the Auburn family. By coming to Alabama, not only has he burned the proverbial bridge, he nuked the whole county. He's got my respect for that alone, because honestly I probably could not do the same thing.
 
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