Bama getting no respect

[BamaMoon]

I'd add, if OM beats UGA it does nothing but rearrange the order of 1-7 in front of us. UGA wouldn't drop below 4 or 5 and they'd still be leading the 1 loss teams.

We'd still have to beat them in the SECCG, but it would not look as impressive to beat them with 1 loss.

 

[davefrat]

Until the LSU game Alabama had managed to underwhelm the entire college football world. Exciting come from behind wins are also struggle wins, and that is what Alabama had every week. Then Alabama beats LSU, looking good, but it is LSU's third loss. Solid win, but not a great win.

Alabama might get into the CFP. Might not. No team is a lock this year. But how many of you believed that you would be in this position after the USF game? That is part of the problem.

Win the next 3 games decidedly and the committee might start to believe. But squeak past these teams in sloppy games and even a win over GA might not be enough.

Remember when fans used to value any win? Then we made fun of "struggle wins"? Well, here we are. Perceptions matter when a committee decides.

Yup. And if we lay an egg at UK this weekend (which would include a sloppy, uninspired win...not necessarily a loss) then it would bolster the committee's view of us.

Bottom line is that if we win out and beat UGA in Atlanta, it would be very hard for the committee to leave us out, although it's possible.

 

[davefrat]

I'd add, if OM beats UGA it does nothing but rearrange the order of 1-7 in front of us. UGA wouldn't drop below 4 or 5 and they'd still be leading the 1 loss teams.

We'd still have to beat them in the SECCG, but it would not look as impressive to beat them with 1 loss.

IF UGA loses to Ole Miss and IF we then hung a second loss on UGA in Atlanta, I think we'd be in the playoff.

 

[colbysullivan]

I'd add, if OM beats UGA it does nothing but rearrange the order of 1-7 in front of us. UGA wouldn't drop below 4 or 5 and they'd still be leading the 1 loss teams.

We'd still have to beat them in the SECCG, but it would not look as impressive to beat them with 1 loss.

I would not put it past Kirby to “lose on purpose” to Ole Miss specifically because of this. Our only chance to make the playoffs is by beating an undefeated UGA.

edit: obvious blue font is obvious

 

[Grogan11]

With the exception of Ohio State, every team in front of us has a game they could easily lose. So do we obviously, it’s going to be a great Saturday. Chaos hasn’t happened yet, this could be the weekend.

 

[Power Eye]

With all due respect intended to you, I think - just my not so humble opinion - that Oregon was inevitably going to be ranked highly because of the inherent shallowness of the voters and public. I'll grant you folks were probably paying closer attention, but I honestly don't think ANYONE with a brain thought Colorado was good.

The voters get all hung up on HIGH-SCORING OFFENSES, no matter how those statistics are obtained. It's why they loved 2018 Oklahoma, it's why they love the 2-3 games a year they watch of Pac-12 football.

Defense is beautiful if you're an actual fan, but if you're not, it's hard to appreciate how tough and excellent a good DEFENSE can make a team look.

We are being hurt right now - in part - because we set an early season narrative of "Alabama has a pedestrian offense" in the Texas and USF games and didn't score a whole lot in the Ole Miss game, either.

It's wrong - but it is what it is. They think these offensive juggernauts cannot be stopped and cannot fathom it happening. The most important thing UGA did last year was NOT hold Oregon to 3 but to SCORE 49 points on them.

Remember: almost nobody watches the Pac-12, so you see those dazzling flag football highlights and it affects you. Same thing happened in 2001 when it was Joey Harrington.

You’re right that they shouldn’t have thought Colorado was good, but even college football specific media personalities were singing Colorado’s praises at the time. As to no one watching the PAC 12, they were definitely watching Colorado at that time and the ratings prove it. That’s not to say there is justification in where Oregon is ranked, it’s just my belief that’s the reason, or at least a contributing factor.

 

[TexasBama]

CFP Anger Index: Is the committee actually overlooking ... Alabama?!?!

Which teams should be upset about the most recent CFP rankings?

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[The Ols]

With the exception of Ohio State, every team in front of us has a game they could easily lose. So do we obviously, it’s going to be a great Saturday. Chaos hasn’t happened yet, this could be the weekend.

Michigan has a better % to win that game right now…

 

[colbysullivan]

With the exception of Ohio State, every team in front of us has a game they could easily lose. So do we obviously, it’s going to be a great Saturday. Chaos hasn’t happened yet, this could be the weekend.

OSU could easily lose to Michigan

 

[TexasBama]

I looked through the CFP committee list and there are mostly administrative types this year. Iirc the earlier committee had more former coaches.

 

[Tiderollin32]

FSU is at least undefeated and won their big game.

I understand it’s just we won 3 of our big games (including LSU) and are being penalized for the 4th. FSU has no one left to play that’s good outside of probably Louisville in the ACC championship game. Their schedule is a joke!

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

The Committee has made it clear that playing a tough OOC schedule is a truly idiotic idea. With the 12 team playoff that will matter a little less but we should adjust accordingly

 

[TideEngineer08]

Points of order:

The SEC did NOT force Georgia to cancel the Oklahoma game. And in fact, Oklahoma did not want to cancel the game. Georgia did, and did.

Some of us are acting like we got BLOWN OUT by Texas because we lost the game by DOUBLE DIGITS. It was a 10 point loss in which we led in the 4th quarter. We lost almost 100% because of our own mistakes. A loss is a loss is a loss and it counts and there is no getting around that. But let's not act like it was a massacre.

Finally, we have no choice but to keep winning. And on this point I would agree we need to build off the LSU performance, not backslide one bit. We need to win these next 3 games impressively. Need to control them throughout. And then we really need to be facing a 12-0 Georgia in Atlanta and obviously win that game.

Do that and we've done all we can do. But I will say this. I was against the idea of a committee from the beginning. I hate the concept. I hate it in basketball. You get what you pay for.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Alabama Fans:
We should be ranked higher because SOS, not being undefeated.

Also Alabama Fans:
We should have won in 1966 because we were undefeated, SOS shouldn't matter.

Also Alabama Fans:
Auburn shouldn't win 1983 national title despite insane SOS because they lost to Texas AT HOME BY DOUBLE DIGITS!! (Oh, the irony!)

The committee achieved their entire goal of polls: we're talking about them and the rankings.

Huh?

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

In the end it will only matter if there are no upsets and we win out and beat Georgia. It seems unlikely that it will play out that way. Someone is going to lose and it could be us.

 

[KrAzY3]

Some of us are acting like we got BLOWN OUT by Texas because we lost the game by DOUBLE DIGITS. It was a 10 point loss in which we led in the 4th quarter.

It's so weird to see Alabama fans say that double digits line. As I said elsewhere, it's 10-99 right? So it's basically making it sound far worse than it is. At the same time I haven't seen a single poster say Alabama beat USF by double digits, which would be more accurate considering Alabama scored over 5 times as many points and that was in fact a blowout, just an ugly one.

It's almost like we're being programmed by the media to say what ever makes Alabama sound worst. Alabama lost by double digits but let's change the language up to say Alabama's win against USF was a really bad performance. We flip that around and say Alabama lost in a close game to Texas and beat USF by double digits and suddenly we have a different narrative, right?

I was against the idea of a committee from the beginning. I hate the concept. I hate it in basketball. You get what you pay for.

I had the same stance the entire time. The BCS would have Alabama at #6 with no chance of missing out on the playoff whatsoever if they win out. The committee has decided this year is the year SoS doesn't matter, and they can do that because they basically make up the rules as they go.

 

[TideEngineer08]

I had the same stance the entire time. The BCS would have Alabama at #6 with no chance of missing out on the playoff whatsoever if they win out. The committee has decided this year is the year SoS doesn't matter, and they can do that because they basically make up the rules as they go.

This is the truth.

And I do not believe they want Alabama in the playoff. I'm not making a conspiracy claim. I'm going off basic human nature and most of the country is just tired of us. Last year was a breath of fresh air for them. It is what it is and I didn't think so at first but now it seems clear that we will need some help. We need some of these teams in front of us to lose.

 

[Grogan11]

OSU could easily lose to Michigan

My bad, I meant to say this weekend.

 

[81usaf92]

5) Alabama's strength of record places them at #4.

There's no defending Oregon being ahead of Alabama and I think you know that, but I know you prefer the committee over the BCS so you are going to defend that terrible #8 ranking even if it is an absurd insult and the BCS would have Alabama at #6.

Alabama beat LSU on the field (FSU's biggest win), they beat Tennessee on the field, they beat Ole Miss on the field (undefeated against other teams), but you are citing double digits (somewhere between 10-99, right?) like somehow that nullified what Alabama has accomplished.

Edit: I would say fair point about Georgia and the scheduling thing though, too bad the SEC didn't do that with the Texas game...

Here is the problem… if you say there is no reason Oregon should be ranked ahead of us then we might as well take away the 2011 title. We didn’t get in because SOS… we got in because everyone in the country that wasn’t part of the paddling nation knew the best team lost the game on weird circumstances. Oregon is in that EXACT same boat.

Texas beat us by 10 at home. Under no circumstances should we be ahead of them while they are just 1 loss.

The rankings make far more sense than many wish to believe. SOS should not negate H2H. SOV and context of losses should factor in more than SOS if we really want the 4 best teams.

I have no problem with it. We should have beat Texas and we should’ve blown out Arkansas, Ole Miss, and USF but we didn’t. We have ourselves to blame.

 

[Grogan11]

Here is the problem… if you say there is no reason Oregon should be ranked ahead of us then we might as well take away the 2011 title. We didn’t get in because SOS… we got in because everyone in the country that wasn’t part of the paddling nation knew the best team lost the game on weird circumstances. Oregon is in that EXACT same boat.

Texas beat us by 10 at home. Under no circumstances should we be ahead of them while they are just 1 loss.

The rankings make far more sense than many wish to believe. SOS should not negate H2H. SOV and context of losses should factor in more than SOS if we really want the 4 best teams.

I have no problem with it. We should have beat Texas and we should’ve blown out Arkansas, Ole Miss, and USF but we didn’t. We have ourselves to blame.