Bama vs Clemson part 3

This is why Clemson is beatable. Kelly Bryant isn't that good.

As a passer - but as a runner, he is very good. Remember the trouble that MSU gave you because of their QB's legs. You are going to get the same stuff from Bryant.
 
As a passer - but as a runner, he is very good. Remember the trouble that MSU gave you because of their QB's legs. You are going to get the same stuff from Bryant.
Yea for sure. But rarely has a QB beat us without needing to hit a few big plays in the passing game. IF we have our offense figured out with either different play calling or Tua having a package or whatever, then I really like our chances. If Clemson had Watson I wouldn't even want to watch the game, but with Bryant I like our chances.
 
As a passer - but as a runner, he is very good. Remember the trouble that MSU gave you because of their QB's legs. You are going to get the same stuff from Bryant.

It's nice that we've already seen Fitzgerald - he's a more effective runner than Bryant is:
Fitzgerald: 162 rushes for 984 yards (6.1 ypc avg), 14 TDs
Bryant: 173 rushes for 646 yards (3.7 ypc avg), 11 TDs

Bama did a good job of containing Fitzgerald overall:
21 rushes for 66 yards (3.1 ypc avg), 1 TD
13/24 passing for 158 yards, 0 TDs, QBR of 54.7

I think they're similar, talent-wise, though Fitzgerald has more experience and has had a more dynamic year running, but Bryant is a better passer. But as we've said, he's no Watson, so while Bryant can win the game for Clemson, Bama should find it easier to reduce his effectiveness. Especially with a LB corps back at nearly 100%.
 
Remember when Alabama was panned for its performance against Mississippi State, a Top 25 team on the road? We gained 444 yards in that game, despite having the ball just a third of the game.

Look at Clemson's offensive performances against these three opponents:

Syracuse - 317 yards
NC State - 415 yards
Miami - 331 yards

Clemson has gotten a pass for being anemic on offense in these games, because people are focusing on the Miami blowout. The truth is they have struggled a lot and not been as consistently productive as we have.
 
Alabama, even in the few games it struggled, held MSU to 330 yards of offense, LSU to 306, and Auburn to 408. Those are not bad defensive performances, even being down four starting linebackers. Clemson gave up nearly 500 yards to NC State and more than 400 to Syracuse.

If you look at offensive production against the best defenses Clemson faced (Auburn, VT, NC State, FSU, and Miami), they averaged gaining 347 yards per game. This is almost exactly 100 yards less than their season average.

Against the best offenses Clemson played (Auburn, Louisville, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State), which are all in the Top 30 offensively, they gave up 363 yards per game. That even takes into account Auburn’s incredibly paltry 117 yards of offense. Take Auburn away and Clemson gave up 454 yards per game to the top 3 ACC offenses they faced. This compares to Clemson’s 278 average for the season. That is a difference of 85 yards against top offenses and a whopping 176 yards against top ACC offenses. In other words, Clemson can be expected to give up a hundred yards from average both ways against a top team with elite offensive and defensive skill. Maybe even more than a hundred yards from average on defense against a team with elite offensive production.

Alabama gives up 258 yards per game. Ole Miss, Auburn, MSU are the only Top 50 offenses Alabama faced all season. Bama gave up 330 yards to these teams, or 72 yards more than average. Just incredibly consistent defense from the Tide even through injuries.
 
Remember when Alabama was panned for its performance against Mississippi State, a Top 25 team on the road? We gained 444 yards in that game, despite having the ball just a third of the game.

Look at Clemson's offensive performances against these three opponents:

Syracuse - 317 yards
NC State - 415 yards
Miami - 331 yards

Clemson has gotten a pass for being anemic on offense in these games, because people are focusing on the Miami blowout. The truth is they have struggled a lot and not been as consistently productive as we have.
I think you're being a little selective. The QB was injured for the Syracuse game, and the Miami game was a blowout from the jump -- they could afford to go conservative, Miami couldn't score at all.
 
I think you're being a little selective. The QB was injured for the Syracuse game, and the Miami game was a blowout from the jump -- they could afford to go conservative, Miami couldn't score at all.

Bryant didn’t look good before the concussion either. They just got outplayed.

Also, see my other comment about their performances against better teams. They departed from average more than we did. To me, it points to a team that has struggled more than we have, but hasn’t been as panned for it.
 
I think you're being a little selective. The QB was injured for the Syracuse game, and the Miami game was a blowout from the jump -- they could afford to go conservative, Miami couldn't score at all.

I am so sick of hearing about the QB going down against Syracuse. It really has become their "If only Colt hadn't gotten hurt".
 
As a passer - but as a runner, he is very good. Remember the trouble that MSU gave you because of their QB's legs. You are going to get the same stuff from Bryant.

As Gumptider has touched on, Bama's been pretty consistent this year.

The problem vs MSU and a bit vs LSU and certainly Auburn was the ability to play keep away.

They didn't have explosive plays, they converted 3rd downs and we didn't convert enough.

I do believe that the team is built to play better than they had in those 3 games on both ends, but I'm more confident in our ability to get off the field when teams are playing the 3 yards and a cloud of dust tactic vs Bama. With a month to work on that, and the ability to get Moses coached up for a specific team along with Wilson who may start back...along with Miller and Lewis in game shape; I feel pretty confident in their ability to stop the run. I can only hope that these guys will help with rushing the passer and contain.

My biggest concern again for this game is how will Bama's offensive gameplan evolve vs another tough defensive front.

Clemson is a good team this year, but not as complete as some may want us to think they are. If you can get Kelly on the ground or take away his time, and do a better job of getting Jalen time behind the line or establish a ground and pound...their secondary can be hand on playaction.
 
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I am so sick of hearing about the QB going down against Syracuse. It really has become their "If only Colt hadn't gotten hurt".
I mean, it's a completely legitimate point. You may not like it but if he stays healthy they almost certainly win the game.

I'm sure if Alabama lost their starting QB in their only loss NOBODY on the board would bring it up as an excuse.
 
Kelly Bryant was 12/17 for 116 yards with a QBR of 45.7 when he departed. Cooper came in and went 10/14 for 88 yards with a QBR of 37.1. Both guys were ineffective running the ball. Neither one of them threw a TD or an interception.

This perception that Clemson fell apart when Cooper came in is just not accurate. Did Clemson take a slight step back? Probably. But the offense didn't fall apart under Cooper. And it was... SYRACUSE. This team ended up 116th out of 130 in yards allowed. It's just not a good excuse.
 
Kelly Bryant was 12/17 for 116 yards with a QBR of 45.7 when he departed. Cooper came in and went 10/14 for 88 yards with a QBR of 37.1. Both guys were ineffective running the ball. Neither one of them threw a TD or an interception.

This perception that Clemson fell apart when Cooper came in is just not accurate. Did Clemson take a slight step back? Probably. But the offense didn't fall apart under Cooper. And it was... SYRACUSE. This team ended up 116th out of 130 in yards allowed. It's just not a good excuse.
IMO, this was for 2 main reasons - they are a running team this year, heavily dependent on Bryant as a runner, and their passing game is very different that last year's in that they do not throw deep. They dink and dunk down the field. So, while their QBs threw well, they could not run the ball, so their scoring was limited enough to produce a loss.
 
Kelly Bryant was 12/17 for 116 yards with a QBR of 45.7 when he departed. Cooper came in and went 10/14 for 88 yards with a QBR of 37.1. Both guys were ineffective running the ball. Neither one of them threw a TD or an interception.

This perception that Clemson fell apart when Cooper came in is just not accurate. Did Clemson take a slight step back? Probably. But the offense didn't fall apart under Cooper. And it was... SYRACUSE. This team ended up 116th out of 130 in yards allowed. It's just not a good excuse.
He was nursing an ankle injury coming into the game and they lost by 3 when he went out... I think they definitely come back and win if he stays in.

That said, I agree with the "but it's Syracuse" argument. Clemson should be able to beat Syracuse no matter what...
 
I mean, it's a completely legitimate point. You may not like it but if he stays healthy they almost certainly win the game.

I'm sure if Alabama lost their starting QB in their only loss NOBODY on the board would bring it up as an excuse.
I'd argue that we could leave Hurts on the bench the entire game against a team like Syracuse and still win by 3 TDs.

The point is, if you're going to fold against weak competition when one player goes down - even the QB - then your team isn't what you'd hope for...
 
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I know this conversation has wandered away a bit, but...

watching some film, and I think how we should attack Clemson (with Hurts) is the 1st drive of the 2nd half against State. Jacobs and Harris in the backfield- jet sweeps, power sweeps, misdirection, RBs in the flat, mix Ridley in with jets and screens.

Yes, that drive stalled, but it did a lot to negate the front 4 early in the drive.
 
I know this conversation has wandered away a bit, but...

watching some film, and I think how we should attack Clemson (with Hurts) is the 1st drive of the 2nd half against State. Jacobs and Harris in the backfield- jet sweeps, power sweeps, misdirection, RBs in the flat, mix Ridley in with jets and screens.

Yes, that drive stalled, but it did a lot to negate the front 4 early in the drive.

I was re-watching the TN game and noted how good we looked w/two back set; especially on a sweep. Probably doesn't mater which two backs. Lots of versatility in that formation.
 
I'd argue that we could leave Hurts on the bench the entire game against a team like Syracuse and still win by 3 TDs.

The point is, if you're going to fold against weak competition when one player goes down - even the QB - then your team isn't what you'd hope for...

Yep - that is why I don't like the Sooners team. If Mayfield has a bad game, they are done. If Alabama can control Bryant, they are done.
 
I know this conversation has wandered away a bit, but...

watching some film, and I think how we should attack Clemson (with Hurts) is the 1st drive of the 2nd half against State. Jacobs and Harris in the backfield- jet sweeps, power sweeps, misdirection, RBs in the flat, mix Ridley in with jets and screens.

Yes, that drive stalled, but it did a lot to negate the front 4 early in the drive.

There is a reason why we haven't really run that... that I expect to see against Clemson. Instead of Ridley on jet, I would like to see Foster doing that. Boy got that speed. Reason I said that is because if any chance we fake jet sweep or screen pass.. I want Ridley down the field or Ruggs to catch the ball instead of Foster.
 
There is a reason why we haven't really run that... that I expect to see against Clemson. Instead of Ridley on jet, I would like to see Foster doing that. Boy got that speed. Reason I said that is because if any chance we fake jet sweep or screen pass.. I want Ridley down the field or Ruggs to catch the ball instead of Foster.
Agreed - love Fosters ability once he has the ball in his hands, but he is not a clutch receiver. So wish you guys still had Stewart on this team.
 

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