Beggars on the corner

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Ok, you guys know I'm pretty unsympathetic for the most part. The beggars normally stand up by I-10 and major cross roads to beg for money or hold signs "will work for food" bs. Well, they've migrated down toward my neighborhood and 4 different groups now stand literally a block from my neighborhood "begging."

Honestly, it p*$$es me off. In Houston, if you're not working, it's because you choose not to. I work two jobs and my 18 year old son works two jobs so I have no sympathy for these able bodied people begging for money.

What's it like where you live?
 

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About the same. I once knew a guy in the late 80s who made about $250/day begging 5 days/wk. His wife made about the same. If you're keeping count, that's around $130,000/year... Tax free... For a family of two... In the late 80s.

Granted, that's not the norm. Most are mentally ill and/or alcoholics. But this couple made quite a living asking for spare change all day long in and around the bar district of Westport in Kansas City, MO. As he explained it to me, if you ask for $5, most people will walk on by. But if you ask for 17 cents, many people will give you $5.
 

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We get people approaching us at the store.. in the parking lot. Or at a gas station...always the same story.

"I need money for a little bit of gas to reach a family member in the hospital". I don't see many at the exits around us here in Shelby county.
 

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Ok, you guys know I'm pretty unsympathetic for the most part. The beggars normally stand up by I-10 and major cross roads to beg for money or hold signs "will work for food" bs. Well, they've migrated down toward my neighborhood and 4 different groups now stand literally a block from my neighborhood "begging."

Honestly, it p*$$es me off. In Houston, if you're not working, it's because you choose not to. I work two jobs and my 18 year old son works two jobs so I have no sympathy for these able bodied people begging for money.

What's it like where you live?
In HSV, it's largely concentrated in the downtown area, and only parts of that. I just tell them to, well "bug off." There are a few, largish guys, whom I've seen hovering over smallish old guys or ladies, trying to intimidate them. Those are the only incidents when I've felt obliged to intervene...
 

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I come from the Christian school of compassion (or some other such nonsense, which doesn't mean you "have" to be Christian to be compassionate) so I try to assess the situation. And to be honest with you there are VERY FEW instances I've come across where the person actually needed anything, it was just easier than finding a job.

What I try to do is buy the person FOOD if that's what he or she wants. But you know what? Experience has shown me almost incontrovertibly that virtually all of them are cheats. I'll just give you a few.

Dallas Theological Seminary is NOW in the "bum" section of Dallas (one of them), if Baylor Medical Center fell, it would not quite hit the school but would get close (to give some of you an idea). One day I was at Burger King and a guy came in there and asked for some money to buy some food. I politely declined but told him I would buy him anything off the menu he wanted. He stayed outside and I bought him a double whopper with everything and took it to him. He didn't even have the decency to say "thank you" and I noticed when I looked across the road and he marched off snorting that there was (wait for it) a liquor store.

Another time I was at Wal-Mart and filled up my tank and the guy in the gas stall next to mine asked me for money. I had about $6 left on my card (I used to prebuy the cards to get my fuel) and told him he could have it. Now - that's just as good a money since you can use that card to buy ANYTHING in Wal-Mart. He didn't say "thank you" either and gave me a disgusted look. My goodness - I gave you money (he could buy booze in WalMart if that's what he wanted)!!!

Yet another time in the hell hot summer of Columbus, Mississippi, I met a guy outside the old place where WalMart used to be (noticing a common theme here?) who had a "will work for food" sign. So I thought I'd check him out. I asked him what his skills were (I needed my car washed and yard cut). He couldn't tell me anything he could do, so I started naming chores. After all - it makes sense if you "will work for food" that you can uh do SOMETHING, right? This dude couldn't do anything and then he told me he "knew Jesus," which set me off because I'm a hundred times more upset about people using God for money than about the religious right view on social issues - seriously. I'd name thing after thing and this dude couldn't do it. He told me his name and 'my girl left me' and that he was a "carny" (carnival worker, which makes him a connie, as in con man).

Eventually, I told him I'd go get him a 3-piece meal from KFC. He still wanted the money, and I politely refused. He did, however, take the meal, and he did say thank you (though my father worked at Auto Zone nearby and told me later what a con man he was and that he came into Auto Zone to "change his money," whatever that means).


There was another stooge who came to my church and spotted my (probably soon-to-be-ex-) wife as a sucker. He wound up conning her into buying him a new bicycle for about $100 at Wal-Mart. I caught him in lie after lie about what he was talking about, but she refused to see it. I told her, "You know, he took that receipt back this afternoon and cashed that in for money."

A few months later he showed up again at our church with two women (presumably his Ma and sister). I told my wife to stay away from him, and I treated him - yes, in church - rather rudely or at least looked past him. I also got the pastor's attention. We were all out at lunch later and one of the deaconesses was telling us that those two women had - literally - gone in there and asked the church for money (we're small but we DO have quite a bit, but we also donate a lot). The church offered to help find them employment, and they simply began demanding money, actually saying that we had money and they needed money and we "should give them" some. (Our pastor is quite generous and an excellent financier, but don't push him or anyone else). I think my eyes clued the bike thief in.


Anyway, I DO have one or two GOOD experiences (I have more tolerance for the well-dressed black man who showed up on November 5, 2008 (a Wednesday, I was off work for some reason) at my church while I was working on some things and said, "I don't have anything to give but to be honest with you - I'm simply looking for a blessing, do you mind?" Hey, he was honest about it - I actually gave that guy a $20).

And I did fill a woman's gas tank at the QT recently because she was low - note that I asked her how much she needed, doubled it, and paid in advance (and then told the clerk under NO circumstances was she to "refund" any of it). I think I put ten bucks in her tank, which isn't a lot nowadays.


My experience on the whole is pretty bad. Most of them are jerks and presume upon the good nature of people. Makes me sick.
 

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I come from the Christian school of compassion (or some other such nonsense, which doesn't mean you "have" to be Christian to be compassionate) so I try to assess the situation. And to be honest with you there are VERY FEW instances I've come across where the person actually needed anything, it was just easier than finding a job.

What I try to do is buy the person FOOD if that's what he or she wants. But you know what? Experience has shown me almost incontrovertibly that virtually all of them are cheats. I'll just give you a few.

Dallas Theological Seminary is NOW in the "bum" section of Dallas (one of them), if Baylor Medical Center fell, it would not quite hit the school but would get close (to give some of you an idea). One day I was at Burger King and a guy came in there and asked for some money to buy some food. I politely declined but told him I would buy him anything off the menu he wanted. He stayed outside and I bought him a double whopper with everything and took it to him. He didn't even have the decency to say "thank you" and I noticed when I looked across the road and he marched off snorting that there was (wait for it) a liquor store.

Another time I was at Wal-Mart and filled up my tank and the guy in the gas stall next to mine asked me for money. I had about $6 left on my card (I used to prebuy the cards to get my fuel) and told him he could have it. Now - that's just as good a money since you can use that card to buy ANYTHING in Wal-Mart. He didn't say "thank you" either and gave me a disgusted look. My goodness - I gave you money (he could buy booze in WalMart if that's what he wanted)!!!

Yet another time in the hell hot summer of Columbus, Mississippi, I met a guy outside the old place where WalMart used to be (noticing a common theme here?) who had a "will work for food" sign. So I thought I'd check him out. I asked him what his skills were (I needed my car washed and yard cut). He couldn't tell me anything he could do, so I started naming chores. After all - it makes sense if you "will work for food" that you can uh do SOMETHING, right? This dude couldn't do anything and then he told me he "knew Jesus," which set me off because I'm a hundred times more upset about people using God for money than about the religious right view on social issues - seriously. I'd name thing after thing and this dude couldn't do it. He told me his name and 'my girl left me' and that he was a "carny" (carnival worker, which makes him a connie, as in con man).

Eventually, I told him I'd go get him a 3-piece meal from KFC. He still wanted the money, and I politely refused. He did, however, take the meal, and he did say thank you (though my father worked at Auto Zone nearby and told me later what a con man he was and that he came into Auto Zone to "change his money," whatever that means).


There was another stooge who came to my church and spotted my (probably soon-to-be-ex-) wife as a sucker. He wound up conning her into buying him a new bicycle for about $100 at Wal-Mart. I caught him in lie after lie about what he was talking about, but she refused to see it. I told her, "You know, he took that receipt back this afternoon and cashed that in for money."

A few months later he showed up again at our church with two women (presumably his Ma and sister). I told my wife to stay away from him, and I treated him - yes, in church - rather rudely or at least looked past him. I also got the pastor's attention. We were all out at lunch later and one of the deaconesses was telling us that those two women had - literally - gone in there and asked the church for money (we're small but we DO have quite a bit, but we also donate a lot). The church offered to help find them employment, and they simply began demanding money, actually saying that we had money and they needed money and we "should give them" some. (Our pastor is quite generous and an excellent financier, but don't push him or anyone else). I think my eyes clued the bike thief in.


Anyway, I DO have one or two GOOD experiences (I have more tolerance for the well-dressed black man who showed up on November 5, 2008 (a Wednesday, I was off work for some reason) at my church while I was working on some things and said, "I don't have anything to give but to be honest with you - I'm simply looking for a blessing, do you mind?" Hey, he was honest about it - I actually gave that guy a $20).

And I did fill a woman's gas tank at the QT recently because she was low - note that I asked her how much she needed, doubled it, and paid in advance (and then told the clerk under NO circumstances was she to "refund" any of it). I think I put ten bucks in her tank, which isn't a lot nowadays.


My experience on the whole is pretty bad. Most of them are jerks and presume upon the good nature of people. Makes me sick.
LOL! You just reminded me of the time a guy tried to pull the old "gas can in hand, just ran out of gas" trick. I decided to play along. I told him to get in and I'd give him a lift to the nearest gas station and fill it up (something I'd never dare do today). We got all the way to the station, only a block away. When we go there, he just said "Oh, forget it," and got out...
 

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The other trick now is to pull the hood up on your car and ask people for money saying your car died and you need a few bucks to get it towed. After they get the money, the hood shuts and they speed off.
 

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LOL! You just reminded me of the time a guy tried to pull the old "gas can in hand, just ran out of gas" trick. I decided to play along. I told him to get in and I'd give him a lift to the nearest gas station and fill it up (something I'd never dare do today). We got all the way to the station, only a block away. When we go there, he just said "Oh, forget it," and got out...
Never heard that one but give you an idea of how stupid a kid can be:

On June 1, 1984 (it was a Friday), we drove from billeting at CAFB over to my Mom's hometown of Lanett. We used to stop at this little gas station in Waugh, which is at Exit 16 on I-85 heading up from Montgomery to Barnerville. I was carrying about $400 left over from my winter hire job at Sembach the previous six months (about 10 hours a week at $2.90 an hour for five months, you can figure how much of what I made I saved). This guy asked if we had change "for a hundred."

Never dawned on my stupid 14-year old mind that this might be a robber. I made the mistake of saying, "Yeah." I mean, couldn't he have made change with the gas station? But I didn't think of that. My old man followed right behind him to the truck. A peaceful transaction ensued.

Later than night my old man - who at the time was an alcoholic and the toughest man I ever knew (he was splitting wood with an axe when he was five, huge fists on a 5'8" man) - told me he had aligned himself where he did just in case the guy pulled a gun. Dad was checking him up and down for a bulge when he walked behind me.

I left that conversation a lot smarter - and quite frightened, too. I never again let anyone know I was carrying money.

And for the record, I got an Orange Fanta drink at the gas station :)
 

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Never heard that one but give you an idea of how stupid a kid can be:

On June 1, 1984 (it was a Friday), we drove from billeting at CAFB over to my Mom's hometown of Lanett. We used to stop at this little gas station in Waugh, which is at Exit 16 on I-85 heading up from Montgomery to Barnerville. I was carrying about $400 left over from my winter hire job at Sembach the previous six months (about 10 hours a week at $2.90 an hour for five months, you can figure how much of what I made I saved). This guy asked if we had change "for a hundred."

Never dawned on my stupid 14-year old mind that this might be a robber. I made the mistake of saying, "Yeah." I mean, couldn't he have made change with the gas station? But I didn't think of that. My old man followed right behind him to the truck. A peaceful transaction ensued.

Later than night my old man - who at the time was an alcoholic and the toughest man I ever knew (he was splitting wood with an axe when he was five, huge fists on a 5'8" man) - told me he had aligned himself where he did just in case the guy pulled a gun. Dad was checking him up and down for a bulge when he walked behind me.

I left that conversation a lot smarter - and quite frightened, too. I never again let anyone know I was carrying money.

And for the record, I got an Orange Fanta drink at the gas station :)
Good story. In my incident, it was about 30 years ago, a different world. Also, this guy was around 40 or so and just didn't have that weather-beaten leather-skinned homeless look about him...
 

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There used to be a guy in Birmingham that would stand where 31 South dumped onto University Blvd. I think the news media interviewed him and found out he made like $85,000/year. Needless to say, he's not there any more.

Our office went to a Jim N' Nicks BBQ once for lunch. Lady with us ordered a BBQ Baked Potato and immediately put half in a to go box. We left the store and immediately a bum hits up the group for money to get food. She offers the to go box, told him she hadn't touched it. He popped off that he didn't want her food. Now, what happened next was priceless. This 6'1" black woman that grew up in Maryland and didn't have a shy bone in her body proceeded to go off on this bum. She gave him a tongue lashing that was just awesome. Wish I could remember all she said to the guy but it was just epic.

Around the VA hospital in B'ham there's a guy riding a pink and white bicycle. He's earned the nickname "Egg Sammich" by those in our office. He'll stroll up beside you and ask for an egg sammich. At least that's what he's always asked the one guy in our office he always targets. My coworker tells him he doesn't have an egg sammich and proceeds on his way, only to be followed repeatedly being asked for an egg sammich. Eventually the guy starts getting loud and throwing out racial accusations trying to embarrass you. He hit up my coworker one day and coworker proceeded to get him some food since he was "hungry". They proceeded down the street to an Arbys. As they passed an ATM, Egg Sammich asked him if he was gonna get money. Coworker told him he was just gonna put the meal on his debit card. Egg Sammich then starts into this story about how he needed money to pay his cell phone bill. Needless to say, they left him standing alone.
 

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There used to be a guy in Birmingham that would stand where 31 South dumped onto University Blvd. I think the news media interviewed him and found out he made like $85,000/year. Needless to say, he's not there any more.

Our office went to a Jim N' Nicks BBQ once for lunch. Lady with us ordered a BBQ Baked Potato and immediately put half in a to go box. We left the store and immediately a bum hits up the group for money to get food. She offers the to go box, told him she hadn't touched it. He popped off that he didn't want her food. Now, what happened next was priceless. This 6'1" black woman that grew up in Maryland and didn't have a shy bone in her body proceeded to go off on this bum. She gave him a tongue lashing that was just awesome. Wish I could remember all she said to the guy but it was just epic.

Around the VA hospital in B'ham there's a guy riding a pink and white bicycle. He's earned the nickname "Egg Sammich" by those in our office. He'll stroll up beside you and ask for an egg sammich. At least that's what he's always asked the one guy in our office he always targets. My coworker tells him he doesn't have an egg sammich and proceeds on his way, only to be followed repeatedly being asked for an egg sammich. Eventually the guy starts getting loud and throwing out racial accusations trying to embarrass you. He hit up my coworker one day and coworker proceeded to get him some food since he was "hungry". They proceeded down the street to an Arbys. As they passed an ATM, Egg Sammich asked him if he was gonna get money. Coworker told him he was just gonna put the meal on his debit card. Egg Sammich then starts into this story about how he needed money to pay his cell phone bill. Needless to say, they left him standing alone.
I guess he didn't know Obama would pay his phone for him.
 

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