Celebration penalty not called as strict in Big XII

Bamabuzzard

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I don't know if anyone has noticed but after watching several Big XII games (Texas Tech/OSU specifically last night) it has become quite obvious they are allowed quite a bit of extra leeway when it comes to post td celebrations. I watched Michael Crabtree do a celebration VERY VERY similar to what Maze was flagged for in the Kentucky game.

It seems the most screwed up, ticky tack calls come from our conference. Why oh why do we keep the same guys every year that are ALWAYS involved in questionable calls that impact games? :mad2:
 

Tide1990

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Yeah...I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the receiver who caught the first TT touchdown pass threw the ball high into the air, but the officials did not call an excessive celebration penalty even though throwing the ball high into the air is expressly prohibited. It certainly seems that he Big 12 was doing all it could do to preserve its last undefeated team.
 

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It's not called as strictly anywhere as in the SEC.

Wait...Tebow and Moreno did exactly the same thing as Wilson and didn't get flagged.

Let me rephrase. It's not called anywhere near as strictly as it is in the SEC when (1) Alabama is playing and (2) an Alabama player is in question, and (3) it's a tight game and any call like that can make the difference.

Color me paranoid. But when they really are out to get you, paranoia is a rational reaction to a fact-based assessment of the situation.

Arkansas 2003 (or 2004) -- Roman Harper gets a celebration penalty against Arkansas in Bryant-Denny when all he did was jump into the arms of a teammate after an interception in overtime that should have iced the game.

LSU 2006 -- Keith Brown gets mugged in the end zone IN FULL VIEW, WITHIN 5 YARDS OF THE OFFICIAL, LSU intercepts and returns to midfield. At the time, we were up by four. First and goal at the one would in all probability have led to an 11-point lead and an entirely different game. Alabama ends up losing by less than 7.

Georgia 2008 -- How many blocks in the back does it take to make a 90+ yard punt return? Over/under has it at two. Doesn't count if you're not Alabama.

LSU 2008 -- Celebration garbage already noted. On top of that, Wilson runs for 50+ yards for the go-ahead touchdown. Smith is called for a hold. Yes, it was a hold. But it was ticky-tacky, and that stuff had been going on all game on both sides. Call it consistently or don't call it at all. To make a one-time cal in that situation is bush-league.

Wait, that's where SEC officials come from. :rolleyes:

We have the best football in the country, and officiating that wouldn't cut it in Conference USA.
 

Tide1990

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It's not called as strictly anywhere as in the SEC.

Wait...Tebow and Moreno did exactly the same thing as Wilson and didn't get flagged.

Let me rephrase. It's not called anywhere near as strictly as it is in the SEC when (1) Alabama is playing and (2) an Alabama player is in question, and (3) it's a tight game and any call like that can make the difference.

Color me paranoid. But when they really are out to get you, paranoia is a rational reaction to a fact-based assessment of the situation.

Arkansas 2003 (or 2004) -- Roman Harper gets a celebration penalty against Arkansas in Bryant-Denny when all he did was jump into the arms of a teammate after an interception in overtime that should have iced the game.

LSU 2006 -- Keith Brown gets mugged in the end zone IN FULL VIEW, WITHIN 5 YARDS OF THE OFFICIAL, LSU intercepts and returns to midfield. At the time, we were up by four. First and goal at the one would in all probability have led to an 11-point lead and an entirely different game. Alabama ends up losing by less than 7.

Georgia 2008 -- How many blocks in the back does it take to make a 90+ yard punt return? Over/under has it at two. Doesn't count if you're not Alabama.

LSU 2008 -- Celebration garbage already noted. On top of that, Wilson runs for 50+ yards for the go-ahead touchdown. Smith is called for a hold. Yes, it was a hold. But it was ticky-tacky, and that stuff had been going on all game on both sides. Call it consistently or don't call it at all. To make a one-time cal in that situation is bush-league.

Wait, that's where SEC officials come from. :rolleyes:

We have the best football in the country, and officiating that wouldn't cut it in Conference USA.
And then there's the trail of blood left throughout Logan Young's house, and I wonder who shot JR. :)
 

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It's not called as strictly anywhere as in the SEC.
LSU 2004 -- Keith Brown gets mugged in the end zone IN FULL VIEW, WITHIN 5 YARDS OF THE OFFICIAL, LSU intercepts and returns to midfield. At the time, we were up by four. First and goal at the one would in all probability have led to an 11-point lead and an entirely different game. Alabama ends up losing by less than 7.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFgxehqIcM"]YouTube - 2004 Alabama vs. LSU "pass interference no-call"[/ame]

Just for some video evidence.
 

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That's the problem with the NCAA, no concept of precedents. A precedent rule would state that the first time a call is made all season would be the same call for every other instance of that forbidden action the rest of that season. For instance, if one guy gets penalized for doing the phone jesture, every other guy who does that after a good play would be penalized as well for the rest of the season. But then again, who's got the resources to coordinate such a thing? Oh, right, we're talking about the NCAA here.
 
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It's not called as strictly anywhere as in the SEC.

Wait...Tebow and Moreno did exactly the same thing as Wilson and didn't get flagged.

Let me rephrase. It's not called anywhere near as strictly as it is in the SEC when (1) Alabama is playing and (2) an Alabama player is in question, and (3) it's a tight game and any call like that can make the difference.
I hear for the rest of the season, the SEC is going to allow refs to "punch" players from Bama who commit 'infractions' instead of just shoving them... :)
 

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