Compare Auburn-Alabama recruiting

[BAMA504]

So far on this board we have seen nothing but raves about our recruiting and denigrating remarks about Auburn's recruiting. (2009)

I have looked over the lists to date and, quite frankly, they look a lot alike. Neither could do much bragging at this time. Both have a few four stars but mostly threes.

Would someone who really knows recruiting please explain how our collection of mostly three stars is better than their collection of mostly three stars?

While this has been discussed many times on here the reasoning for many of us is that while we both have many 3 stars the TRUTH of the matter is the 3 star recruits we have landed are being recruited by most of the top programs in the SEC and in some cases the nation.
While I do not think star ratings are an indication of their true ability I do KNOW that top teams do not just throw offers out there to kids just to have their name on a list. If we land a kid who is recruited by 6 teams in the SEC and the likes of USC and OU then we land him I got to believe this kid has skills and due to his position or lack of publicity will not get the star rating..
If you also look at the players the barn is getting they are mostly skill positions while ours is the beef players who usually do not get the 4 - 5 star ratings due to the limited amount that rivals and scout are able to dish out.. Again it goes back to which schools are recruiting the players... I will take a guy who has offers from 6 SEC teams over a guy who is getting the offers from usm, troy and uab.. All you have to do is go and look at their commit list and check their profile and see who was offering them, if tubbs thinks he has landed all these under rated 5 star players he must be the only one because NONE of the big boys are after them~!~

 

[bamapuppy]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

Did anyone notice that long offer list. Just Auburn. I would think that maybe Jax. State, or Troy, or UAB, or anybody might have offered. But that's okay. I know that most of us like to look for the stars, but the offer list can also be a real eye opener too.

 

[BJ4TIDE]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

I have noticed a trend in many of the Barn commits, and seem to remember reading a statement from Tommy Tubb-ear-ville in regards to it. Many of these guys seem to have pretty good 40-times. Do you think he is recruiting primarily on speed, and thinking "if we can out "quick'em" we can beat'em".

 

[i_live_4_bama]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

I noticed that also. But most of our recruits are 4.4 - 4.5 also. There isn't much difference in a 4.4 and a 4.5. And most of ours are much better recruits than the barners. So if he is recruiting on just speed, then he's in for a rude awakening because Alabama and the rest of the SEC has just as much speed if not more.

 

[Bama323]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

This kid is very raw. He has only played football for two years. He came out for his senior year of HS in Dacula, GA. Then, he played his second year of football at the JC level this past season. He has good height and speed, but with his lack of football playing experience, it's hard to get a true evaluation of him.

I had saw some speculation on the barn boards that he may commit soon. It seems to me that Wingnut, Fat Tony, and company are going primarily for speed and thinking that they if they can get speed, everthing else can be taught. It is true that the one thing you can't coach is speed, but they are definitely taking some chances.

 

[BJ4TIDE]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

I noticed that also. But most of our recruits are 4.4 - 4.5 also. There isn't much difference in a 4.4 and a 4.5. And most of ours are much better recruits than the barners. So if he is recruiting on just speed, then he's in for a rude awakening because Alabama and the rest of the SEC has just as much speed if not more.

That's a good point. It is really disheartening to see Auburn seemingly just give up on recruiting, so easily. Even though CNS would out-recruit Ears, regardless, I was still looking forward to more challenging battles on the recruiting front as well as the field.

 

[Bama1970]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

Tubs is determined to get the '09 class wrapped up very quickly for 2 reasons:
1. So when the top in-state prospects chose Bama, Tubs can say the barn was full...
2. Tubs will not miss a single day of duck season.

 

[i_live_4_bama]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

Tubs is determined to get the '09 class wrapped up very quickly for 2 reasons:
1. So when the top in-state prospects chose Bama, Tubs can say the barn was full...
2. Tubs will not miss a single day of duck season.

That is true. The Barners will use this as an excuse because they know they never had a chance to sign the top players anyway. There time is coming to an end and they know it.

 

[RT3413]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

That's a good point. It is really disheartening to see Auburn seemingly just give up on recruiting, so easily. Even though CNS would out-recruit Ears, regardless, I was still looking forward to more challenging battles on the recruiting front as well as the field.

I, for one, don't subscribe to the thought that Auburn is "giving up" on the recruiting front. I think they have a different philosophy and are recruiting to one primary goal. And if they can fill a team with 4.4 and 4.5 speed guys they will be a force to contend with. You can look at teams in the WAC for

The challenge is going to be finding ENOUGH speed combined with some semblance of talent to do the rest of the things right.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

Did anyone notice that long offer list. Just Auburn. I would think that maybe Jax. State, or Troy, or UAB, or anybody might have offered. But that's okay. I know that most of us like to look for the stars, but the offer list can also be a real eye opener too.

According to BOL Cameron Kenney had offers from Ole Miss and USF also.

 

[crimson_blood]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

I, for one, don't subscribe to the thought that Auburn is "giving up" on the recruiting front. I think they have a different philosophy and are recruiting to one primary goal. And if they can fill a team with 4.4 and 4.5 speed guys they will be a force to contend with. You can look at teams in the WAC for

The challenge is going to be finding ENOUGH speed combined with some semblance of talent to do the rest of the things right.

I agree. The Barn is loading their class with guys that can run...and there's nothing wrong with that. They are recruiting guys that will fit into their system. They're not doing half as bad as some 'Bama fans would have you think. The real question remains though - can Tubs afford to give up Nico Johnson, Tana Patrick, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Kendall Kelly (and others great players) while going out on a limb to get players that fit his system??

He's taking a big-time gamble...and it's right up there with the gamble he took when he hired ony Franklin.

As a side note...the Kenney kid is from the same HS (Dacula) as the Irons brothers went.

 

[Bama323]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

There are alot of barners that are very worried about what is taking place right now in recruiting. You won't find too much about it on their message boards, because they try to spin everything as positive, and then they bash anyone who contends that they are getting their butts whipped on the recruiting trail. Make no mistake though, there is a large contengent of barners who see what is happening and are very, very worried about it.

 

[JagTider]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

I, for one, don't subscribe to the thought that Auburn is "giving up" on the recruiting front. I think they have a different philosophy and are recruiting to one primary goal. And if they can fill a team with 4.4 and 4.5 speed guys they will be a force to contend with. You can look at teams in the WAC for

The challenge is going to be finding ENOUGH speed combined with some semblance of talent to do the rest of the things right.

So they are trying to become Hawaii? UGA blew that up last year. I see them wanting speed to run the spread, but not every track star can play football in the SEC.

 

[37bamagrl]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

And if they can fill a team with 4.4 and 4.5 speed guys they will be a force to contend with. You can look at teams in the WAC for

but do teams in the WAC generally beat teams in the SEC?

no.

 

[BigEasyTider]

Re: Auburn adds 21st commit

Even if you buy into the whole line of thought that Auburn is just recruiting a different type of player for the new Franklin offense, that's only one half of the equation. That still does not explain the terrible recruiting on the defensive side of the ball.

As I've said before, very little, if anything, has changed with the type of player Auburn is targeting. They are still going after the highly-touted players as hard as they ever were. If you look at the Auburn prospect list, it is loaded with four and five star players. The only difference is that none of them want to go to Auburn any more.

Auburn is merely getting the best players available. The problem for them is that prospects like Kenney are the best players available for them.

 

[68wRTR]

Re: Auburn adds another commit

Tubs is determined to get the '09 class wrapped up very quickly for 2 reasons:
1. So when the top in-state prospects chose Bama, Tubs can say the barn was full...
2. Tubs will not miss a single day of duck season.

lol, good read.

 

[Bamapossum]

Re: Auburn adds 21st commit

It seems as if they are trying to recruit a very good WAC team.

The point has been made by others, and I will echo their sentiments. The rest of the top teams in the SEC have players that are just as fast, or faster than these.

I am not going to predict some kind of major Auburn downfall, but all indicators seem to be pointing toward a downward trend for them over the next couple of years.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Auburn adds 22nd commit

S David Conner, 5' 9" 185 lbs from Mississippi commits to Auburn. He had offers from only Auburn, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State.

 

[BigEasyTider]

Re: Auburn adds 22nd commit

S David Conner, 5' 9" 185 lbs from Mississippi commits to Auburn. He had offers from only Auburn, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State.

Another not-so-highly-touted commitment for Auburn. Both Scout.com and Rivals have him as a three-star prospect. Scout.com has him as the 59th overall safety prospect, and Rivals has him as the 70th overall safety prospect.

Oh well, at least this kid had some legitimate BCS conference offers, which is much more than you can say for a lot of Auburn commitments.

 

[BAMA504]

Looking at our 13 we have 8 lineman OL/DL out of the 13

looking at the barn they have 21 commits and 7 are OL/DL

Like I stated before the type of class we have to get this year will not allow for us to have 16 4 stars just because OL/DL are not ranked as high unless they are just standout players and even then it is few and far between.


Another way to compare the two classes is to look at the commits and see where they rank nationally in their prospective position which to me is another way to tell if the player is good~!~