Dantonio has lost my respect - Playoff Comments

[colbysullivan]

Dear GA Tider,

Please send back the Scarecrow.

Sincerely,

The Land of Oz

GeorgiaTider is right IMO. The 2011 season is the reason we have the playoffs in the first place. I'm sure you remember the Big10 commissioner saying he'd support a playoff "over his dead body", and then magically changed his tune 6 months later when the SEC got 2 teams (THE 2 BEST TEAMS!) in the championship game. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[bamadp]

IMO, GATider is correct.
While there is not a specific rule prohibiting a conference from having two teams, this "committee" with their new "criteria" can include or exclude a team for a myriad of reasons. Why? Just "follow the benjamins". ESPN paid over 5.6 billion dollars to cover these playoffs for twelve years. That's roughly 470 million dollars per year for three games. They recoup that money by selling commercial time. While a rematch of say Bama/Auburn would go over great in the south, that's not ideal commercial time for companies like GM, Nissan, or Pepsico etc., like say Bama/Oregon.
In the last six years the bcs final four consisted of two teams from the same conference five times. Four years there were two sec teams, including the last three years in a row. In 2008 there were two teams from the SEC and two from the Big-12. Does anyone honestly believe that a company like espn would put up that kind of money and "hope" the bcs would provide them with nation wide match ups so they could charge top dollar for commercials? So the bcs was scrapped and replaced by a committee and some new criteria. I wonder why...:wink:

 

[bamahippie]

Dear GA Tider,

Please send back the Scarecrow.

Sincerely,

The Land of Oz

Haha, the irony of your quote is that the Alabama-LSU BCS game was the "straw".

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Reading comprehension is seriously missing here.

If playoff supporters did not see this coming then they are willfully blind. The playoff was never about the best teams playing, but limiting multi-conference team participation. Welcome to the playoffs.

Do ANY of you back up THAT statement?

If the playoff supporters NONE OF WHOM HAD ANY NOTIONS OF A COMMITTEE did not see that A COMMITTEE THEY NEVER ENTERTAINED THE IDEA OF WAS GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS....they were willfully blind....

Seriously?

I don't know of one single person who advocated a playoff who argued for a committee. Blaming pro-playoff people for the committee is laughable on its face.

Now let's compare:

BCS: you can go unbeaten in the SEC and you DO NOT make the championship game (and we have EVIDENCE to back that one up)

4-team BCS playoff: if you go unbeaten in the SEC, you're in

Committe: well - who really even knows? Nobody knows.

As far as this "same conference" whine, my counter-point is this: if you win what's in front of you, it makes no difference. It's hilarious to me how out of one side of their mouths are a bunch of fans whining about "they won't let two teams from the same conference in" when we ALL KNOW that if Alabama had beaten LSU in November 2011, these same fans would have whined about having to play them again.

 

[GrayTide]

Assuming the 4 teams selected for the playoff was set up by the BCS process like it selected the top 2 teams then there is no guarantee that two teams from the same conference would not get in. By using the committee it is possible to prevent two teams from the same conference from getting in.

Had the selection committee been around in 2011 and could only select the top two teams, would we have been in the NC game? IMO the selection committee would not have included Alabama since they lost to LSU during the regular season.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Assuming the 4 teams selected for the playoff was set up by the BCS process like it selected the top 2 teams then there is no guarantee that two teams from the same conference would not get in. By using the committee it is possible to prevent two teams from the same conference from getting in.

Had the selection committee been around in 2011 and could only select the top two teams, would we have been in the NC game? IMO the selection committee would not have included Alabama since they lost to LSU during the regular season.

Had the selection committee been around they CLAIM they would have. Of course, that's like any after-the-fact claim.

They even admitted there would have been an Iron Bowl rematch last year.

Look, I hate the very idea of a selection committee. However - it's hilarious that the BCS had sixteen years to screw things up multiple times and a lot of folks aren't willing to even wait ONCE to see what comes out.

It's true it is POSSIBLE to eliminate that but there's one major problem staring everyone in the face (that nobody really seems to be contemplating): many times you have a situation where the REAL question is going to be WHICH conference does NOT get two teams in the playoff.

And THAT will also be an impetus for eight, which I think is inevitable.

 

[GrayTide]

I agree, Bill and am on record numerous times as having said this whole mess is headed to eight teams. I also agree, that while I am not on board with the use of a selection committee, we do have to wait and see if what we all think will happen, actually happens. My preference is to use the BCS selection process whether it is used to select 2, 4 or 8 teams, but that ship has sailed.

 

[TDBama78]

The sec champ who ever it is will play,in the playoff, teams probably not as good as the second best team in the sec. So what ever the format is ,if your the best it don't matter how its set up. The playoff won't change a thing, an sec team will win most of the time.