Former President Biden Diagnosed With Aggressive Prostate Cancer

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We should consider, no matter how likely or unlikely, that Biden opted to not have his PSA tested while in office since it can be a far from perfect indicator and can lead to an incorrect diagnosis. Many in their 70s and 80s decide just that, POTUS or not. We just dont know at this point. How much do we know about the transparency of any POTUS, past or present. Do we even know what trumps PSA number/trend is? Was Dr Harold Bornstein or Dr Ronny Jackson honest with us? 🤷‍♂️
I just don't buy that he would have refused this or that he was even given that choice.

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I can't believe that this level of cancer was missed. This has been there for years. A random guy living his life I can see it. People often ignore symptoms and don't get preventative check ups, but Biden not having them is not possible. Call me a conspiracy theorist or anything else you want to call me, but I think this was known for some time and not announced.
I'm not one of the MAGA conspiracy theory folks (nor am I suggesting you are), and I have EXTREME difficulty believing that at a minimum Biden didn't know about it at least sometime last summer. Kurt Eichenwald continues to shred his nonexisting credibility by telling going full Online Oncologist on all of us with quotes of stuff, but he's not a doctor, either.

But with the MAGA crowd, guess what? If TRUMP had this SAME diagnosis, those same people would be telling us that "the deep state" had poisoned Trump with "cancer cells" to prevent him from "making America great again" and probably even tell us it was in the Covid vaccines. I mean, what I'm writing sounds like a half-baked SNL skit, but it's par for the course the last decade with the "Antifa did 1/6, oh it was just a field trip that got out of hand, oh the FBI instigated it" crowd. Also - if Trump had this same diagnosis, Blue MAGA would be screaming "cover up" instead of their chosen mantra now of "can't you let him deal with this compassionately."

I don't believe he bypassed a PSA test - not with a history of cancer as Biden had had.
I don't believe he "had to have had this" in 2020, either. He MIGHT have, but I don't think it's necessary.

But I also don't believe he just found out AFTER he left the White House, either.
 
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OK, I know I'm gonna sound like those historians I loathe for their pretentiousness (HCR, Kruse), but "laboratory technologist here" - and YES, I have in fact run many PSA tests through the years. Anyone saying that "well, he had regular tests and it HAD to have shown positive" is - and there are so many of them right now on social media - to be charitable, they don't quite know what they're saying.

YES - PSA generally speaking is a screening tool for Prostate Cancer (for those who may not know, PSA stands for Prostate Specific Antigen), but it (as Bamaro noted above) is not even close to always 100%. I mentioned this example previously: when you go in thinking you may have Strep throat, the lab runs a Rapid Strep on you. There is about a 1/3 chance if it's negative that it is WRONG, but there's never a positive that is wrong. If the screen is negative, most places culture the second swab and you will know within 48 hours. Because strep throat itself is harmless - it's the sequelae (rheumatic fever or glomerulonephritis that is the fear) - the doctor can feel justified giving you basic antibiotics for strep that will be working before he knows FOR SURE.

The PSA is not THAT "unreliable" (to use a strong term), but even though it is specific antigen to the prostate that does not AUTOMATICALLY "if it's low, you're good." It is a screen along with a digital rectal exam that serves as the "second screen" (this is usually when they also take the occult blood test to see if you have a GI bleed, which is a crude screen for colon cancer).

1) I do not for one second believe that Joe Biden, who had had skin cancer previously, NEVER had a PSA test in all these years. It's POSSIBLE - but not probable - that he didn't have one between 2017 and 2021, when he was neither VP nor President, but I don't believe that.

2) I CAN, however, believe it is POSSIBLE that his PSA was low enough they didn't pursue much more. As a reminder, Desert Storm Commander Norman Schwarzkopf had a PSA of 1.8 and DID, in fact, have prostate cancer when he was only 59 years old. His symptom was knee tendinitis.

3) One possible side effect of chemotherapy is what is called "chemo-brain" and another is strokes.

What if we do, in fact, find out that what happened is Biden was diagnosed with cancer and undergoing chemo and that caused all of this? And before you dismiss it, he didn't have much hair to lose, he wasn't in public all that much, he did look Gaut, and he had numerous brain lapses and Gerald Ford type incidents.

I'm not going to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Biden was diagnosed with prostate cancer AFTER last year's June debate, but I do not for one second believe that he learned it since January 20, 2025, either. Not with bone metastasis (even the cited example of Frank Zappa, he was diagnosed in 1990 and died at the end of 1993).

I have NO TOLERANCE for the MAGA folks who want to say "Biden lied" when they support the biggest liar of them all. But I likewise have NO TOLERANCE for what looks to me to be very similar to the final days of another Pennsylvania Joe (the football coach at Shower U), who all of a sudden announced he had lung cancer when the gates were closing in on him as reporters unearthed more about Sandusky.
When I was about 13, I got mono. My first blood test was negative. I literally had every symptom of mono. My doctor just assumed the test was wrong and his diagnosis was right. 2 weeks later I was tested again and it was positive.
 
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When I was about 13, I got mono. My first blood test was negative. I literally had every symptom of mono. My doctor just assumed the test was wrong and his diagnosis was right. 2 weeks later I was tested again and it was positive.
Also correct.

Mono - when diagnosing - is basically "strep throat plus the liver and spleen are enlarged on physical exam." They can also figure it's probable if your abnormal lymphocyte count is up but your WBC count (usually) is normal.

Science doesn't quite work in the "if/then" way most folks wish it did.
 
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This is making the rounds and honestly, it raises my eyebrows. Even today, some are saying that was "just another Biden gaffe." Strange how only in America is telling the truth (accidentally or otherwise) is now a gaffe. Sigh....I hate D.C.
 

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This is making the rounds and honestly, it raises my eyebrows. Even today, some are saying that was "just another Biden gaffe." Strange how only in America is telling the truth (accidentally or otherwise) is now a gaffe. Sigh....I hate D.C.
It raises my eyebrows, too.

After all, saying "they were hiding it from us" by appealing to a video showing they were NOT hiding it from us ought to make everyone think before speaking.

Here's a 2021 report. It's on page 5 under number 8.

Biden was being accused of hiding cancer THEN so much so that a White House spokesman confirmed it was known he had had it - dated July 2022.

Ronny Jackson didn't say anything about a gaffe.

And the RNC got their collective drawers in a bundle, too.

If Trumpers didn't know this guy had cancer prior to 2022, maybe cutting the Dept of Education is an incredibly bad move and more money should be spent on reading comprehension.
 
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I had an elevated PSA a few years ago so my urologist ordered a special test and it was still high so he did a biopsy and it turned out fine. He told my wife in the post-op chat it looked great and the lab said it was fine. Follow-up bloodwork showed since then has been normal.
 
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This is making the rounds and honestly, it raises my eyebrows. Even today, some are saying that was "just another Biden gaffe." Strange how only in America is telling the truth (accidentally or otherwise) is now a gaffe. Sigh....I hate D.C.
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He had skin cancer removed in 2022. That was both confirmed and not relevant to anything.
 
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Biden’s last prostate cancer screening was in 2014, his office says
As Republicans question how long Joe Biden knew he had cancer, a spokesperson says he received the disease diagnosis on Friday.

Former president Joe Biden’s last known screening for prostate cancer was in 2014, when he was 71 years old and serving as vice president, a spokesperson for Biden’s office said on Tuesday.

It is not unusual for men over 70 to stop having regular prostate-specific antigen (PSA) tests, the standard screening to determine risk of prostate cancer, physicians and experts say.
 

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Biden’s last prostate cancer screening was in 2014, his office says
As Republicans question how long Joe Biden knew he had cancer, a spokesperson says he received the disease diagnosis on Friday.

Former president Joe Biden’s last known screening for prostate cancer was in 2014, when he was 71 years old and serving as vice president, a spokesperson for Biden’s office said on Tuesday.

It is not unusual for men over 70 to stop having regular prostate-specific antigen (PSA) tests, the standard screening to determine risk of prostate cancer, physicians and experts say.
It's sad that instead of simply wishing the man well it has come to this.

Our political system is screwed. So much pettiness and hate.
 

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I agree with that. (Didn’t read the article, just going off that quote). Had there not been a coverup surrounding his decline I doubt anyone would care about this beyond the extremists who have BDS and find fault in everything he does.

I think wondering how long this was known or at least suspected is a legitimate question in regards to how the cancer impacted his overall health.

If his team has lied about his health in the past you don’t take this report without a grain of NaCl. Kind of like Trump’s history of snarky tweets makes me doubt he wrote the sincere well wishes in the tweet.
 

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I agree with that.

If his team has lied about his health in the past you don’t take this report without a grain of NaCl. Kind of like Trump’s history of snarky tweets makes me doubt he wrote the sincere well wishes in the tweet.
Exactly.

Now btw...how do I actually KNOW "Biden hasn't had a PSA done since 2014" is even true? At this point, how do I know that the medical team isn't part of the coverup, particularly since (up to a point) that's their job? How do I know that NOW?

As far as Trump's tweet.....why can't we give the guy the minimal credit of, "You know, even if he didn't write it and someone else did, he actually LISTENED to an advisor who told him 'this would be a politically smart thing to do'"? He either posted it or let someone post it or endorsed it - or maybe even wrote it. Let's not let our distaste for candidates (for that matter people) make us so combative we fail to see the rare times they surprise us for the good. If nothing else, it was a smart thing to do (to say nothing of empathetic).
 

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I just don't buy that he would have refused this or that he was even given that choice.

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Hard to say but its his right to refuse it. People refuse tests all the time. Thats their prerogative. Woody Guthrie died from Huntingtons which is inheritable. His son Arlo, to the best of my knowledge, refused to be tested for it. 🤷‍♂️
 

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