Four Former Tennessee football assistants under Jeremy Pruitt get show-cause penalties

[81usaf92]

I think the Golding era has kind of exacerbated it. Hear me out, The desire to get bama back to the good ole days of 2015-2017 kind of gives bama fans some nostalgia goggles. Do I think Jeremy Pruitt is a great DC. Absolutely…do I think he is the only guy who can be a great DC at Bama…no.

That’s really my point. Go back and look at the coaching search thread and the Steele hired thread. There are plenty of posters that got married to this idea that only Pruitt can fix this. I get it, but it’s a wrong opinion. But so many kept making up illogical rumors about how Pruitt was going to come out with a slap on the wrist and was going to make a triumphant return this year or next because this that or the other while there was overwhelming open evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

I think many will be happy with our defense this year. Steele is a really good coach.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

IDK. I’m just tired of the cult of Pruitt just making up stuff to the point that you start to wonder if Pruitt is bigger than Alabama itself. I mean the guy is a great defensive mind but he is obviously a stupid individual. Both things can be true at the same time. Just like Tennessee is the most rotten organization in sports but they made a great decision to fire Pruitt for cause because they had mountains of dirt on him.

Im just more annoyed at how many try to act like Pruitt has an ace email exposing Tennessee, Saban is secretly getting him back, that he is about to win a massive lawsuit vs Tennessee,or that a show cause means nothing so he can come back. Pruitt messed up royally and it’s time everyone gets on board with that truth. While Tennessee is dirty… no one forced Pruitt to take the job and bow to the great pumpkin. In the end it goes back to the famous Vince McMahon line… “Tennessee didn’t screw Pruitt, Pruitt screwed Pruitt”

Decided to make this a two part post. We had so much talent on those 2015-2017 teams that as long as you weren’t a complete dufus. You could field a great defense. People harp on Saban about golding but if you look at his entire career it’s really his only real snafu when it comes to defense. And he made a really human mistake that anyone can make. Liking someone and thinking just like someone who you work with.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Decided to make this a two part post. We had so much talent on those 2015-2017 teams that as long as you weren’t a complete dufus. You could field a great defense. People harp on Saban about golding but if you look at his entire career it’s really his only real snafu when it comes to defense. And he made a really human mistake that anyone can make. Liking someone and thinking just like someone who you work with.

It is a crime that was not a 3-peat right there. 2016 was the best defense in history. Yes... Watson carved them up on that last drive. But that's because they'd been on the field 100 plays due to an offense that couldn't convert a 3rd down to save itself.

I'll say that was the most talented run in Alabama history. 2015-2017.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Eh well you also have to take into account the dumb Alabama fans that partake in his show. They are the dumbest of the dumb. I guarantee you that many are Pruitt cultists who keep pushing “the return of the savior” at him since Golding left.

Uncle Lou is a survivor of the TTC era and maybe the only one of those fools that is left. I give him props in his ability to expand where most of the TTC members just got stale doing the same old act and shows. But I find him way too irritating to tolerate anymore and I only search him when UGA loses because in a way he shows a more sensible side while melting.

So here is the thing. I have been a massive wrestling fan my whole life and I am seeing this thing on social media now where sports personalities try to act like a wrestling bad guy. So it’s one thing when you’re the rock and you’re a 28 years old (back in his day ) built like a tank and have charisma coming out of your pores in a manufactured storyline. But when you’re a dude in your 40’s-50’s wearing cargo shorts and a backwards cap doing it. It come across like that uncle/cousin that made your daughter uncomfortable during his thanksgiving visit.

 

[GP for Bama]

It is a crime that was not a 3-peat right there. 2016 was the best defense in history. Yes... Watson carved them up on that last drive. But that's because they'd been on the field 100 plays due to an offense that couldn't convert a 3rd down to save itself.

I'll say that was the most talented run in Alabama history. 2015-2017.

That 2016 team was very talented. Watson did a great job of leading Clemson down for the winning score.... But we helped them a lot.
1. Kick off went out of bounds, so they start on the 35.
2. Bama gave up a crucial big play on a pass interference call.
3. The pick play touchdown.

As you can see.... I'm still not over losing that game.

 

[JDCrimson]

So who is the bigger idiot? Pruitt or Bohannon?

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

So who is the bigger idiot? Pruitt or Bohannon?

Uncle Lou…uncle Lou is always the biggest idiot.

 

[TideEngineer08]

That 2016 team was very talented. Watson did a great job of leading Clemson down for the winning score.... But we helped them a lot.
1. Kick off went out of bounds, so they start on the 35.
2. Bama gave up a crucial big play on a pass interference call.
3. The pick play touchdown.

As you can see.... I'm still not over losing that game.

Me either. Of all the ones that got away, that one hurts the most. By far.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Me either. Of all the ones that got away, that one hurts the most. By far.

2013 hurt because it was auburn. And because in a four team playoff we probably smoke them in a rematch on a neutral field and 3 peat.. But 2016 was the team that felt most like a championship team in terms of buy in and chemistry.

 

[81usaf92]

I say this: You can't convince me that JP arrived on the scene in Knoxville having no past relationships, and devised an elaborate cheating operation. The person behind the whole thing resigned as soon as allegations surfaced and Jeremy was let go. We all know who that POC is.

You do realize that JP worked under Rush Propst when the cheating allegations were pouring out of Hoover right? That halo really doesn’t look bright when you start to consider that fact.

 

[81usaf92]

So who is the bigger idiot? Pruitt or Bohannon?

Well… Bohannan is completely done with ever coaching at this level and Pruitt is close. Based on that metric it’s Bo.

But in the total amount of stupidity shown I would say Pruitt has everyone beat by a country mile. Think about it. He was the highest paid coordinator in the country with 1.3 million and was being tapped for major jobs. He chose to make a leap to a middle of the pack SEC team with no instate recruiting, just hired and fired a coach because of a media lie, and just fired their AD for talking to Mike leach. As stupid as Kirby is, it’s hard not to say he is wiser than Pruitt because he stayed at Alabama for less than a million dollars in 2012 even after Auburn offered him 3 million dollars to replace Chizik. Auburn is a hell of a better job than Tennessee. Then Pruitt is told that Tennessee is wanting to get rid of him at a discounted price all the while knowing that you have a clear trail leading to you cheating, but Pruitt decided to fight for every penny and dared Tennessee to fire him with cause. Pruitt was incredibly stupid on many fronts.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Suspension for a year... Likely will try and get that out of the way. Doesn't make sense to wait 6 years and then serve a year.... He'll do his time somewhere.. maybe at Alabama as analyst. And to those he likely won't coach again as DC .... Oh I wouldn't be shocked if he was back on Alabama staff next year

How?

It's a 6 year show-cause, the one year suspension only happens if he's hired within that 6-year window. A team would be NUTS to hire a DC knowing he would be suspended for a year - who would volunteer to go down a coach for an entire calendar year for CJP?

 

[81usaf92]

How?

It's a 6 year show-cause, the one year suspension only happens if he's hired within that 6-year window. A team would be NUTS to hire a DC knowing he would be suspended for a year - who would volunteer to go down a coach for an entire calendar year for CJP?

Yeah I’m kinda at the point of giving up trying to show logical reasoning on Pruitt. A show cause has more teeth than what people believe as it doesn’t just mean it’s a penalty on the coach but also on the athletic department that hires him. It is openly inviting the ncaa to snoop around every sports team in your department.

I think someone may take a chance on Pruitt during the show cause but I have my doubts that Alabama will. Remember Saban tried to hire Freeze who didn’t have a show cause but Bryne said no. I think this situation presents too many headaches for bryne for him to allow it to happen.

 

[Padreruf]

JP is finished as a D I coordinator...I do think Donut Boy knew what was going on...he probably encouraged it until he realized that JP was not going to be a success.

UT got off light...not sure exactly why.

 

[JDCrimson]

This is not the kind of rule breaking you flirt with by having him on your staff as an analyst. He is in exile as he should be. I'm blown away at some of the stuff I have read on Knox News at the widespread blatant disregard of recruiting rules. It's SMU level stuff...

It just amazes me at how guys like Pruitt and Bohannon would gamble away their professions. If they are not coaching these guys are selling furniture or cars...

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Yeah I’m kinda at the point of giving up trying to show logical reasoning on Pruitt. A show cause has more teeth than what people believe as it doesn’t just mean it’s a penalty on the coach but also on the athletic department that hires him. It is openly inviting the ncaa to snoop around every sports team in your department.

I think someone may take a chance on Pruitt during the show cause but I have my doubts that Alabama will. Remember Saban tried to hire Freeze who didn’t have a show cause but Bryne said no. I think this situation presents too many headaches for bryne for him to allow it to happen.

You weren’t kidding about the cult of Pruitt. read an alabama fans comments on another board that stated that not rehiring Pruitt would be a bigger mistake than keeping golding for four years. What?? Do people really believe Jeremy Pruitt is the only guy who can coach defense in college football? ??

 

[bamadwain]

Yeah I’m kinda at the point of giving up trying to show logical reasoning on Pruitt. A show cause has more teeth than what people believe as it doesn’t just mean it’s a penalty on the coach but also on the athletic department that hires him. It is openly inviting the ncaa to snoop around every sports team in your department.

I think someone may take a chance on Pruitt during the show cause but I have my doubts that Alabama will. Remember Saban tried to hire Freeze who didn’t have a show cause but Bryne said no. I think this situation presents too many headaches for bryne for him to allow it to happen.

I'm sure Byrne said no, but I believe it was Sankey that blocked it

 

[bamamc1]

I'm over it.

It's so silly that the NCAA continues to punish programs for transgressions from previous coaches and players who are no longer there. I get that we all want our pound of flesh, but I know how ridiculous it is when Bama was punished for previous staffs' issues.

Punish the school financially, even players if they're shown to have cheated. Show causes are welcomed. But leave the current team alone.

I hate tennessee but I hate the NCAA worse - things like this are why. Just too dang lazy to figure out a better way to discourage this sort of behavior.

I’ve been reading the Knox News and Jeremy made a statement to the NCAA asking them to not impose penalties that would affect the current players and coaches who had nothing to do with what went on while this happened.
I’m a Pruitt fan because of the relationship we had with his Dad when he was an assistant coach at my high school. Jeremy was in Elementary school and was always around. He’s an outstanding DC and I can’t blame him for taking a shot at making more money and probably realizing a dream. 1.3 million is a little less than 4 million.
One of the players mentioned by number, not name has been identified as a kid who took money from Tennessee but ended up signing and playing at UGA and was drafted this year. If like Antonio Langham, wouldn’t he have been deemed ineligible and wins been vacated? I mean under those rules at that time, he was playing and ineligible even though he was at UGA? I’m sure he got zero from Georgia and just took UT $.

Jeremy has been punished but UT got no where near what we received back in the 90’s. I hate this for him but I know vultures are out blaming him in part for the Hoover crap. CNS interviewed Probst and JP. Jeremy was already there as a liaison. He stayed. Probst never sniffed the sideline in Tuscaloosa. I would bet CNS had all the information he needed on both.
I take comments from some on here with a grain of salt. Snitker was an idiot a few years ago. Since then he’s won a World Series and sits currently 9.5 games in front in the division. Pay attention to what people proclaim on here. RTR my friends.

 

[81usaf92]

Jeremy has been punished but UT got no where near what we received back in the 90’s. I hate this for him but I know vultures are out blaming him in part for the Hoover crap. CNS interviewed Probst and JP. Jeremy was already there as a liaison. He stayed. Probst never sniffed the sideline in Tuscaloosa. I would bet CNS had all the information he needed on both.
I take comments from some on here with a grain of salt. Snitker was an idiot a few years ago. Since then he’s won a World Series and sits currently 9.5 games in front in the division. Pay attention to what people proclaim on here. RTR my friends.

1) Propst was considered in 2007 of being on staff, and it’s been well documented that he had numerous conversations with Saban joining the staff. However much of the crap he did at Hoover began to leak when his AD and Principal were either unable or refused to keep covering for him. That started pretty much in early 2007 right at the time Saban arrived. By June it was very bad, and then by 2008 it was all out in the open.

2) So you want to take this to a baseball opinion that you didn’t care to get off your chest on the Prosports board?!?! Fine I’ll answer… Snitker is a lousy in game manager (but a great clubhouse guy) and won a World Series. I’ve said it just like that for several years now and it hasn’t changed ever, and that is a pretty common opinion amongst Braves and baseball fans. Him winning a WS doesn’t change the fact that he is a bad in game coach. Two things can be true at the same time… unless you think Ed Orgeron and Gene Chizik are great head coaches because they won a title. Talent has a weird way of disguising bad coaching.

3) And the last thing on baseball… Are you seriously trying to say Snitker is a huge reason that the Braves are leading the NL when the whole infield plus 3 other players were selected for the ASG…I have faith that just about anyone on this board could have atleast 40-50 wins right now with that lineup. The GMs in MLB determines who wins the WS more than the manager. There are numerous bad managers to win a WS and even a few to win multiple World Series because their lineups and bullpens are so loaded that they cover up mistakes.

 

[CB4]

I look at CJP in this way: Pruitt grew up in the game of football, the son of football coach. Jeremy loves the game and knows the game backwards and forwards. It is what makes him a great DC. That said, CJP isn’t “the sharpest tool in the shed” outside of football. And I’m fairly certain many of his coaching stops along the way to the debacle in Knoxville did nothing but build within CJP that he was Teflon- nothing would or could stick to him. And I’m very familiar with CJP’s tenure under Propst at Hoover. Those years working with a narcissist and sociopathic personality I’m sure did nothing but reinforce that notion.

The only thing that prevented things from happening at CJP’s previous collegiate stops was oversight. Given the keys to the kingdom in Knoxville, it was only a question of when and not if. And the great “donut muncher” knew this: Pruitt’s personality and ego would be enough for him to use a system already in place to do “whatever it took” to bring in players. And if it all “hit the fan”, Fulmer had his guy with the dunce cap in the corner.

CJP wasn’t smart enough to realize he was climbing into a wallow with a whole different set of pigs, but he would be the only one coming out “stinking” when it was all said and done.