Ghislaine Maxwell Receives 20 Years for Aiding Epstein in Sex Trafficking

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1950279151782592513

Michael Wolff:
Wolff: I was sitting talking to Epstein and he said, “Wait a minute, I gotta show you something.” And then he went into his safe and he came out with photographs.

I think there were a dozen of them. And it was Trump with girls of an uncertain age in Epstein's Palm Beach house, where all of the things that he would ultimately be accused of took place. And I remember very vividly three of them. There are two in which the topless girls are sitting on Trump’s lap—and then a third in which he has a stain on the front of his pants.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Basically Epstein was better at grooming and Trafficking underage girls than Trump and he got big mad about it.

I believe Epstein ‘stole’ more from under Trumps nose through the Teen Pageants.

The US Media should just stop engaging with anything coming from Trump or the Whitehouse.

Every single piece of information and statements about non Epstein related matters should be challenged with this response..

People are so focused on Epstein's (supposed, but likely real) sex-trafficking island that they're ignoring all the other things he was into. As mentioned above, he was almost certainly some sort of intelligence asset, based on bis meteoric rise in the capital world and his resulting connections.

I'm on record as believing anyone involved in child exploitation or sexual trafficking should be executed, but the point remains that he was involved in FAR more than the island.

It really feels like the "Lolita Express" and such are being used to keep people from digging deeper into the many other aspects of his life. As long as people are chasing the laser pointer dot of 'who is on the list' they're not questioning the litany of other issues that would be far more destructive to those in power.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

People are so focused on Epstein's (supposed, but likely real) sex-trafficking island that they're ignoring all the other things he was into. As mentioned above, he was almost certainly some sort of intelligence asset, based on bis meteoric rise in the capital world and his resulting connections.

I'm on record as believing anyone involved in child exploitation or sexual trafficking should be executed, but the point remains that he was involved in FAR more than the island.

It really feels like the "Lolita Express" and such are being used to keep people from digging deeper into the many other aspects of his life. As long as people are chasing the laser pointer dot of 'who is on the list' they're not questioning the litany of other issues that would be far more destructive to those in power.

I'm fine with all of this.

I had never even heard of Jeffrey Epstein until he committed suicide. Never knew who he was, never paid any attention; maybe the fact I haven't watched the TV news since Election Night 2012 (other than a few snippets here and there) is why. But seriously - never heard of him until hours after his suicide my Facebook lit up with "how convenient he 'committed suicide.'"

Then in 2022, I began to hear - and it was usually from MAGA folks - "I want to know who's on the Epstein list." I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW SUCH A THING SUPPOSEDLY EXISTED!!! Then a few folks I know who are Democrats took the same posture: "Trump's on the Epstein List, that's why it's secret."

Maybe I'm dumb but...my first question internally was always, "How do you even know there's a list?"

Look - SEX SELLS, we know this. It's why Bill Clinton got more coverage for his affairs (both real and alleged) than he ever did for anything else, even before we heard the name Monica Lewinsky. It distracts, if you'll pardon the pun it "titillates."


But OTOH...TRUMP brought this on himself by dangling his "big reveal," his "I'm unable to control myself from saying that not only do I know more than you, but I have this really big secret!"


And for the record, Trump really - and I mean really - made a colossal gaffe, even by his own Great Wall of China standards:

"I never had the privilege of going to his island."

 

[Bamaro]

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And for the record, Trump really - and I mean really - made a colossal gaffe, even by his own Great Wall of China standards:

"I never had the privilege of going to his island."

And now it appears that all the action wasn't on the island. Some was at his Palm Beach house which trump 'visited'.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Basically Epstein was better at grooming and Trafficking underage girls than Trump and he got big mad about it.

This country forgives more people for more bad stuff than anyone, so long as your name isn't Pete Rose.

But as a co-worker of mine observed years ago, the Dallas Cowboys were really wild in the 70s and 80s. Lotta coverups by the press to keep the ruse going about America's Team. All kinds of drugs, sexcapades, high living. They had one of the best kickers in the NFL, a guy named Rafael Septien. For about five years, he was as good as anyone in the NFL at the time (1979-84).

He then did the absolute ONE unpardonable thing: he sexually assaulted a TEN-YEAR OLD GIRL!!! He was facing life in the clink and pled down to "fondling." The Cowboys kept him on the roster.

For a week. And then they got so much heat, so many threats, so much bad publicity - this by the standards of 1987 - that they handed him his walking papers.


Here's another one that got covered up we all knew about. Remember when Mississippi State went to the 1996 Final Four? They had a coach you'd think would be set for life with that job. Less than two years later, he resigned, claiming "burnout."


I'll give you a hint: it wasn't burnout, it was "get out of the state." And you can figure out the rest.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And now it appears that all the action wasn't on the island. Some was at his Palm Beach house which trump 'visited'.

That's why I'm saying this sounds a lot like, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" to me.

It's not a denial of the crime, it's a denial of the geography.

 

[81usaf92]

I'm fine with all of this.

I had never even heard of Jeffrey Epstein until he committed suicide. Never knew who he was, never paid any attention; maybe the fact I haven't watched the TV news since Election Night 2012 (other than a few snippets here and there) is why. But seriously - never heard of him until hours after his suicide my Facebook lit up with "how convenient he 'committed suicide.'"

Then in 2022, I began to hear - and it was usually from MAGA folks - "I want to know who's on the Epstein list." I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW SUCH A THING SUPPOSEDLY EXISTED!!! Then a few folks I know who are Democrats took the same posture: "Trump's on the Epstein List, that's why it's secret."

Maybe I'm dumb but...my first question internally was always, "How do you even know there's a list?"

Look - SEX SELLS, we know this. It's why Bill Clinton got more coverage for his affairs (both real and alleged) than he ever did for anything else, even before we heard the name Monica Lewinsky. It distracts, if you'll pardon the pun it "titillates."


But OTOH...TRUMP brought this on himself by dangling his "big reveal," his "I'm unable to control myself from saying that not only do I know more than you, but I have this really big secret!"


And for the record, Trump really - and I mean really - made a colossal gaffe, even by his own Great Wall of China standards:

"I never had the privilege of going to his island."

Trump’s problem is that his narcissistic nature won’t allow him to “not address the situation” that he doesn’t want to talk about. I mean his trip to Scotland has had him say “I had the privilege to being invited to the island but I declined”, “When Jeffrey crossed the line of stealing employees from me I cut ties because that was a really bad thing”, and “Bill Clinton I’ve known to have gone to the island atleast 28 times”.

It’s crap like that. If he just would run out the clock by not addressing it and wait for the next big thing then this would eventually go away. But he just can’t help himself.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Trump’s problem is that his narcissistic nature won’t allow him to “not address the situation” that he doesn’t want to talk about. I mean his trip to Scotland has had him say “I had the privilege to being invited to the island but I declined”, “When Jeffrey crossed the line of stealing employees from me I cut ties because that was a really bad thing”, and “Bill Clinton I’ve known to have gone to the island atleast 28 times”.

It’s crap like that. If he just would run out the clock by not addressing it and wait for the next big thing then this would eventually go away. But he just can’t help himself.

He could have been smart and simply never brought it up.

But then he wouldn't be the self-important jackweed he absolutely is, either.

What's funny is that if he could have just kept his mouth shut, he could have fired Comey and said it was his prerogative...as opposed to what he actually did: boasted to the Russians that he did it because of an investigation.

And then the Democrats would have been hard-pressed to rant about the Comey firing that they wanted because "he cost Hillary the election." Instead, he put it right on the tee and invited them to swing the bat.

Because of course he did.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

He’s losing the plot, forgetting to cry like the victim he pretends to be…..

Trump says Jeffrey Epstein 'stole' Virginia Giuffre from him when she worked at Mar-a-Lago spa

"He took people that worked for me. And I told him, 'Don’t do it anymore.' And he did it," Trump told reporters.

www.nbcnews.com

President Donald Trump said convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein “stole” Virginia Giuffre from his Mar-a-Lago club, a stunning admission that could increase scrutiny of his relationship with the late financier — even as his administration seeks to change the subject from Epstein.

Trump was speaking to reporters Tuesday when he was asked about his comments over the weekend about a falling-out with Epstein because he took employees from his business.

"He took people that worked for me. And I told him, 'Don’t do it anymore.' And he did it," Trump said, telling reporters that he barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, his estate in Palm Beach, Florida.

"I said, 'Stay the hell out of here,'" he said.

Pressed about whether any of the "stolen" employees were young women, Trump said many of them worked in the club's spa.

"The answer is yes, they were in the spa," he said. "I told him, I said, 'Listen, we don’t want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa.' ... And he was fine. And then not too long after that, he did it again.

That’s exactly what happened. Giuffre says it in the Netflix documentary that came out when? A year ago? Two? All this talk about Trump finding out what a crap person Epstein was and then throwing him out of MAL doesn't pass the sniff test. Getting his shorts in a twist about his employees being poached sounds far closer to reality.

 

[dtgreg]

That’s exactly what happened. Giuffre says it in the Netflix documentary that came out when? A year ago? Two? All this talk about Trump finding out what a crap person Epstein was and then throwing him out of MAL doesn't pass the sniff test. Getting his shorts in a twist about his employees being poached sounds far closer to reality.

His underage sex slaves being poached.

 

[81usaf92]

That’s exactly what happened. Giuffre says it in the Netflix documentary that came out when? A year ago? Two? All this talk about Trump finding out what a crap person Epstein was and then throwing him out of MAL doesn't pass the sniff test. Getting his shorts in a twist about his employees being poached sounds far closer to reality.

Do I think Trump has slept with underage girls??? Yes because it’s what you would expect from a narcissistic hound dog that believes he is above the law. I mean if he is willing to pay a porn star a crazy amount of money to spank him with a Times magazine then it’s not too much of a leap that he is willing to pay for something sexually illegal.

Do I think Trump got girls from Epstein? I honestly don’t know. But he isn’t doing himself any favors right now

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Do I think Trump has slept with underage girls??? Yes because it’s what you would expect from a narcissistic hound dog that believes he is above the law. I mean if he is willing to pay a porn star a crazy amount of money to spank him with a Times magazine then it’s not too much of a leap that he is willing to pay for something sexually illegal.

Do I think Trump got girls from Epstein? I honestly don’t know. But he isn’t doing himself any favors right now

This is basically where I am.

I can 100% believe he’s fooled around with jailbait. It’s like Pete Rose with gambling or George Santos with lying, there’s pathology.

But whether he engaged in illegal stuff like that with Epstein, l can view it as possible either way.

But HE is the one who threw red meat to the base and dangled it….and he’s the one who has told different stories about “the list” over and over that don’t even sound believable.

I honestly think what got him in trouble with Comey was (per Woodward) when Comey informed him of the Steele dossier (as a footnote), Trump ASSUMED it was a threat, a “shakedown”.

Why did he think that?
One reason: it’s what he would have done.

He snorted something about these being the people that said Saddam had WMDs and they didn’t know X from Y, followed by his other single syllable intellectual observation, “witch hunt!”

The man is literally incapable of seeing anything from any viewpoint other than his own, which by itself is a disqualification from being the one person in the world who can destroy it by pushing a button.

I have far deeper fears about Donald Trump than anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

His underage sex slaves being poached.

There was illegal stuff going on at that Spa.

The way Trump addressed it was that Clientele was upset that specific girls weren’t there anymore.

So he’s basically tipping his hand that people were upset that Miss Teen contestant #7B wasn’t there for their weekly ‘massage’ because Epstein took her.

These two were doing the exact same things just with different business models.

How much crossover happened and whether it was coordinated or not I don’t know but these two are birds of the same feathers.

 

[81usaf92]

This is basically where I am.

I can 100% believe he’s fooled around with jailbait. It’s like Pete Rose with gambling or George Santos with lying, there’s pathology.

But whether he engaged in illegal stuff like that with Epstein, l can view it as possible either way.

But HE is the one who threw red meat to the base and dangled it….and he’s the one who has told different stories about “the list” over and over that don’t even sound believable.

I honestly think what got him in trouble with Comey was (per Woodward) when Comey informed him of the Steele dossier (as a footnote), Trump ASSUMED it was a threat, a “shakedown”.

Why did he think that?
One reason: it’s what he would have done.

He snorted something about these being the people that said Saddam had WMDs and they didn’t know X from Y, followed by his other single syllable intellectual observation, “witch hunt!”

The man is literally incapable of seeing anything from any viewpoint other than his own, which by itself is a disqualification from being the one person in the world who can destroy it by pushing a button.

I have four deeper fears about Donald Trump than anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.

Trump is like his followers in that they view intelligence in terms of bank account numbers, man hood as in number of quality sexual conquests, and strength in not compromising. Well the truth is Trump was born in between home and 3rd and has been constantly caught in the pickle drill because he can’t understand that he has limits. The myth of him being a great businessman is less believable than George Washington never telling a lie. I mean how are you a great businessman but two of your bankruptcies are a casino in Atlantic City and a spring football league that you single handily destroyed while trying to go head to head with the NFL.

Probably the best quality about Trump is that he is too simple minded to see beyond 2 minutes. Because if he was truly aware at his power right now then we might be really heading for a fascist regime. It is why Vance scares me more than Trump.

 

[JDCrimson]

Russell Vought pulling strings behind the scenes is what really scares...

Trump is like his followers in that they view intelligence in terms of bank account numbers, man hood as in number of quality sexual conquests, and strength in not compromising. Well the truth is Trump was born in between home and 3rd and has been constantly caught in the pickle drill because he can’t understand that he has limits. The myth of him being a great businessman is less believable than George Washington never telling a lie. I mean how are you a great businessman but two of your bankruptcies are a casino in Atlantic City and a spring football league that you single handily destroyed while trying to go head to head with the NFL.

Probably the best quality about Trump is that he is too simple minded to see beyond 2 minutes. Because if he was truly aware at his power right now then we might be really heading for a fascist regime. It is why Vance scares me more than Trump.

 

[Huckleberry]

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Congress Invites Ghislaine Maxwell To Come Testify Under Dangling Grand Piano

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The world waited anxiously to finally learn more about one of the most widely talked-about conspiracies in recent history, as the U.S. Congress invited Ghislaine Maxwell to come testify under a dangling grand piano.

babylonbee.com

"We'd love Ms. Maxwell to sit exactly right there and tell us what she knows," said Senator Mitch McConnell. "It's important for the world to find out as much information about the things Epstein was involved in. It's equally as important that Ms. Maxwell be seated underneath that grand piano that's dangling by a suspiciously frayed rope. Just a little over to the left... that's perfect."

At publishing time, congressional sources said there wasn't anything out of the ordinary about having Senator Dick Durbin sitting in the balcony with a blowgun and poison darts.

 

[jthomas666]

SHOCKED!! SHOCKED, I SAY!!!

Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, is transferred to a prison camp in Texas

Jeffrey Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, has been moved from a federal prison in Florida to a prison camp in Texas as her criminal case generates renewed public attention.

apnews.com

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Jeffrey Epstein was a lot of horrible things. Stupid he wasn't.

The documents Trump is holding onto were in the DOJ's possession well before Trump took office. IOW, the Biden DOJ had them.

Those names haven't been released because they are prominent politicians and donors on all points of the political spectrum. Which is exactly how Epstein set it up -- so that no matter who's in Congress or the White House, that party or person has major incentive to make sure those documents never see the light of day.

I have no doubt that Trump's name is in there multiple times. I'd be most surprised if Hunter Biden's isn't. Maybe even Joe, though his health might have decreased his desire and/or ability to take advantage of Epstein's services. Bill Clinton is certainly in there, I'm sure along with lot of congressional leaders, both Republican and Democratic. And big-name donors to both parties.

Note that the source of Epstein's wealth hasn't been disclosed. How did a former prep school math teacher get all that money? There's absolutely no way to accumulate that level of wealth without leaving a paper or electronic trail. Especially given the forensic resources at their disposal, it wouldn't be all that hard for the DOJ or IRS to track down all his sources and uses of funds.

Whether under red or blue administrations, they haven't gone down that rabbit hole because a lot of powerful people, whose politics range from far left to far right and all points in between, don't want them to.

My personal guess is that Epstein charged seven-figure fees for membership in his club and wisely invested the proceeds. Like I said...he was evil. That doesn't mean he wasn't smart.

He probably also blackmailed his clients -- keeping incriminating photos, video, and financial records on the down low in exchange for more cash, legislative or judicial favors, or influencing enforcement agencies to turn a blind eye.

If they weren't so concerned about Jeffrey Epstein's clients being outed, Democratic or Republican administrations would have made these documents, including photos and video, public a long time ago.

 

[Bamaro]

SHOCKED!! SHOCKED, I SAY!!!

Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, is transferred to a prison camp in Texas

Jeffrey Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, has been moved from a federal prison in Florida to a prison camp in Texas as her criminal case generates renewed public attention.

apnews.com

I wonder what trump's personal lawyer, AKA the DoJ, got in return for transferring her to a Club Fed prison?