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Has there been any changes in our OL workout requirements?

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Over the past few months it has been made known to this board (by some mods) that a possible reason for our poor OL play was the workout regime or lack there of from our OL.

As I, others were shocked that this type of work ethic was allowed at Bama. The mods informed us that the "standards" were being changed and already implemented. Reports of "throwing up" by the OL from this new workout requirement was posted.

Do any of the mods have any current information as to our OL workouts and what they are continuing to do to get them in the shape they should have been in during the season? I still am shocked that we didn't make it a point to assure that our OL'men was in the proper physical shape to play the game. Sounds like "technique" might not have been the problem but simply being "soft" and "weak". I hope this isn't the case in 2006.
 
Johnston

I would guess that an extreme lack of athleticism on the O line was the major factor in our late season demise. Can't blame Johnston for that. Fact is our tackles struggled with any type of speed off of the corner on a regular basis, even with Utah St.
 
One of the changes I have heard about is Rocky is in charge of the workouts not the position coaches. In other words, Rocky tells the players when to show up and what to do not the positon coach telling Rocky how he wants his players trained. That is a whole new ball game for some of the players who seemed to have a different schedule than the rest of the team. This special treatment of some players caused some hard feelings by the ones having to work till they puked. Now everyone gets a fair chance to work till they puke.

From what I have heard from people who have seen workouts is that they are slowly getting the rhythm of Coach Colburn's work outs. We still have a few players that can't complete a workout because of injuries.
 
Coach RC...

is, in the words of one player, a hard-*****. The players who were already hard drivers, like KD, love him. Some of the rest, who are having to change habits, hate him. He'll be good for the team, IMO...
 
TIDE-HSV said:
is, in the words of one player, a hard-*****. The players who were already hard drivers, like KD, love him. Some of the rest, who are having to change habits, hate him. He'll be good for the team, IMO...
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That is good to hear. I don't mean to "harp" on this but I just cannot believe that "Alabama" would go into a season with OL'men (of all positions) being unprepared physically. We pride ourselves in being able to run the ball and to do that anybody knows that your OL MUST be physically prepared.
 
I find this hard to believe. Why would one part of the team not be required to do what the rest of the team has to do???? So, the O line coach reportedly could say that all the line man had to to do was one set of this or none of that, while the rest of the entire team did a complete workout? I don't believe this at all.....

So I guess no lineman were in the lower gym state???
 
Aries said:
I find this hard to believe. Why would one part of the team not be required to do what the rest of the team has to do???? So, the O line coach reportedly could say that all the line man had to to do was one set of this or none of that, while the rest of the entire team did a complete workout? I don't believe this at all.....

So I guess no lineman were in the lower gym state???
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The position coaches dictated the workouts for their specific group...as they did with the discipline if said workouts were missed. No longer the case.
 
Depth and talent were our main problems this past year. We'll be alot better on the OL the next few years.
 
TIDE-HSV said:
is, in the words of one player, a hard-*****. The players who were already hard drivers, like KD, love him. Some of the rest, who are having to change habits, hate him. He'll be good for the team, IMO...
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You've probably already heard this story, but I'll repeat it for some who may not have heard it.

While at Kentucky, Coach Bryant had a great lineman named Bob Gain who later went on to a good pro career with Cleveland. The story is that while at UK, Gain didn't always see eye to eye with Coach's regimen, nor his unyielding discipline, but stuck it out mainly just out of spite so as not to let Coach Bryant chase him off. Gain later wound up in the army and was in Korea during the war. One night after a bitter all night battle, he penned a letter to The Coach in which he explained his situation and closed the letter by telling Coach Bryant "Tonight, I love you for all the same things I used to hate you for."

To a lesser degree, those players that stick with Coach Colburn and his program will probably feel the same way on those Saturday afternoons when their conditioning meant the difference between winning and losing.
 
TommyMac said:
To a lesser degree, those players that stick with Coach Colburn and his program will probably feel the same way on those Saturday afternoons when their conditioning meant the difference between winning and losing.
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Or the difference between laying on your rump and allowing 11 sacks or having the physical ability to stand the DL'man up and give your qb time to throw the ball.
 
Wow, Coach Colburn does seem like a hard-***, but he is probably just what the doctor order. His training will should help our players find the next gear when it counts.
 
TerryP said:
The position coaches dictated the workouts for their specific group...as they did with the discipline if said workouts were missed. No longer the case.
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It was probably the same as in high school workouts, or atleast at my school. Everyone is together for stretches and things of that nature, but then we break a part and linemen are together and backs are together. Then, after a while we break apart again. DE, TE's go off, DL and OL go somewhere else, RB, QB, and WR go somewhere else and DB, CB and LB go somewhere else. The position coach says how much running and work their players will do.

RTR
 
I hope Rocky is giving them all hell. Particularly the running. They are young and can take it. In fact I suspect most have never had their endurance really challenged and will be surprised how much more they can do when they are conditioned. Some one said "fatigue makes cowards our of all of us", we don't want to see any fatigue in the regular season.
 
I think Johnston was a very good S&C man, Moving away from the position coaches controlling workouts is probably just a good move that needed to be made and we will probably see benifits, I don't know if it was something the staff togather decided or it was something RC wanted and got, Either way I think its a good move. position coaches aren't S&C experts.

Having said all that Colburn is from the old school, I expect him to get midevil on some of our players, I expect them not to like it, and I expect them to take it out on some of next years apponents. too bad our lineman signees aren't in there getting ready.
 
bamaslammer said:
I think Johnston was a very good S&C man, Moving away from the position coaches controlling workouts is probably just a good move that needed to be made and we will probably see benifits, I don't know if it was something the staff togather decided or it was something RC wanted and got, Either way I think its a good move. position coaches aren't S&C experts.
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What concerns me is that if our lineman were that "underworked" in the weight room and their level of workouts was dictated by the position coach then what does that say about the work ethic of the position coach? It is not a good reflection. Our OL was grossly man handled on many occassions last season and to think that part of it had to do with the simple basics of being in shape.......hmmm? :frown:
 
The conditioning, of the OL, may have played a part in last years problems but the biggest problem was 18-19 yo's going up against 21-22 yo's on the DL.
Although they struggled, we were satisfied with their play thru 9 games but the loss of the only sr, and their leader, cost them confidence.

I agree with everyone else, our OL must be in as good or better shape than our opponents. CRC should know how to get it done!!
 
uafootball92 said:
It was probably the same as in high school workouts, or atleast at my school. Everyone is together for stretches and things of that nature, but then we break a part and linemen are together and backs are together. Then, after a while we break apart again. DE, TE's go off, DL and OL go somewhere else, RB, QB, and WR go somewhere else and DB, CB and LB go somewhere else. The position coach says how much running and work their players will do.

RTR
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This would make the most sense to me. It is very easy for people to confuse conditioning, such as running and those special drills for those specific positions, to actual strength built in the weight room. Most conditioning is spent separate while most have a set weight room routine that everyone follows. In other words you wouldn't have a 300lb lineman running passing drills or kickers angle tackling, but everyone would probably do bench press or squats.
 
Coach...

Pollard concentrated on brute strength (what Fran wanted) and Johnston concentrated more on agility, even for OL, which caused us to get pushed around. With Pollard's OL, they got out-quicked frequently. CRC seems to be following something similar to Pollard with OL and Johnston with the skill players, but with much more intensity...
 
Dare I ask it...but if CRC is concentrating more on brute strength for the OL...does that mean we might see a change in the blocking technique?
 
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