Heather Dinich Thinks OU and Iowa State Will Both Make the Playoffs

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I need some help ! I can not , for my life, figure out who is the 3rd conference. I get the 3rd team just not a conference.
I think we’re on the same page.

There isn’t a third good conference. Which means there are only two…the SEC and the BIG.
 
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She must have misread her cue cards. It said "both Oklahoma and Iowa State will make the Big 12 look like a 10 team conference". Maybe she needs glasses.
 

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I like her, too. Handled herself really well when Nick Saban snapped at her for no good reason, and was classy in her acceptance of his apology. Consistent with that, she takes a more measured view on a lot of things than the vast majority of talking heads....including Heather Dinich.

Dinich makes a business out of putting out ludicrous assertions. It's obvious that she's just going for clicks and social media followers.

One day, like a stopped clock, or a blind pig finding an acorn, or a drunk chimpanzee throwing darts, she'll hit the bull's eye on one. And she'll trumpet the random happenstance with lottery-level probability until she's in the dirt.....meanwhile skillfully sweeping the thousands of times she was wrong under the rug and counting on the general public's gnat-like attention span and memory.

I can't picture Maria Taylor doing that.
That's what I'm saying.

Heather wants to be Joe Namath guaranteeing the Jets win the Super Bowl, sort of a female version of Skip Bayless. But everyone knows Skip is just playing the fool for ratings. Maybe she is, too, but it's a bad look for her. He can pull it off because, well, he you can watch his animation and tell he doesn't believe a word he's saying.

And what's funny is nowadays every single team in the Super Bowl has someone who "guarantees" his team is going to win, not even grasping the difference. It's why it just gets mentioned in small print every year.
 
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Not that anyone here cares what she thinks. I’m thinking she knew this would get her some attention and, well, it worked….
As for her prediction, I cannot come up with any realistic scenario where the Big 12 would get two slots.


LOL 😂 first sentence says it all!
 

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That's what I'm saying.

Heather wants to be Joe Namath guaranteeing the Jets win the Super Bowl, sort of a female version of Skip Bayless. But everyone knows Skip is just playing the fool for ratings. Maybe she is, too, but it's a bad look for her. He can pull it off because, well, he you can watch his animation and tell he doesn't believe a word he's saying.

And what's funny is nowadays every single team in the Super Bowl has someone who "guarantees" his team is going to win, not even grasping the difference. It's why it just gets mentioned in small print every year.
Really I think she is a smart or crafty person because she can start a fire and keep it going. She is really what Danny Kannell tried to be.
 
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It's not difficult to get people fired up like that. Really. K*nnell is a moron, but that doesn't make Dinich smart.
No but it’s a skill to keep them fired up.

My point is that she has caused 3 pages worth of comments on Tidefans.com by her having an “opinion”. So she is doing her job and doing her job well. I doubt all but a very few commentators and analysts have true opinions. “Smart” ones keep people talking about their takes. Whether that be in the negative or positive is irrelevant as long as they are talking about it.

Kannell’s problem was that he singled out one team that 90% of the country hates and didn’t ever provide any new material while doing it. People got tired of the same “Bobby was better” and “Alabama and the SEC sucks” crap that anyone on the street could come up with on their own.
 

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No but it’s a skill to keep them fired up.

My point is that she has caused 3 pages worth of comments on Tidefans.com by her having an “opinion”. So she is doing her job and doing her job well. I doubt all but a very few commentators and analysts have true opinions. “Smart” ones keep people talking about their takes. Whether that be in the negative or positive is irrelevant as long as they are talking about it.
But we're not talking about what she said, we're talking about her lack of football intelligence.

I mean, it's fun to make fun of people who wave their own flag of stupidity for the world to see.
 

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But we're not talking about what she said, we're talking about her lack of football intelligence.

I mean, it's fun to make fun of people who wave their own flag of stupidity for the world to see.
I get it, but again I think the opinion was more an ESPN angle than Dinich’s own opinion. Analysts are basically glorified WWE wrestlers these days. Some work better with the role that they are assigned… Dinich’s is to get under people’s skin. Which she does well, and that’s why she has a role in the college football coverage at ESPN still.
 
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Speaking of ESPN commentary, did anyone else watch their productions commemorating the 150th season of college football? I must say I came away disappointed. The thing I disliked the most was the discussion panel they had which featured Dinich and other, younger ESPN personalities. Such a panel should have a bunch of guys well into their 50s and up. I’m thinking of guys like Brent Musburger, Bob Griese, Lynn Swann, etc. Sure, you guys have reasons to dislike them too, but you can’t deny that they offer a much broader knowledge and experience compared to the likes of Dinich.
 

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Rachel Nichols is mad because ESPN took away from her the NBA Finals and gave it to Maria Taylor...even though it is in Rachel's contract. Rachel said that Maria getting it was due to her race (African-American.) Unfortunately, she said it on a video/audio feed that she thought was off. Recorded, viewed and then released by an ESPN employee to Deadspin. And then the story takes wings...
 

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Rachel Nichols is mad because ESPN took away from her the NBA Finals and gave it to Maria Taylor...even though it is in Rachel's contract. Rachel said that Maria getting it was due to her race (African-American.) Unfortunately, she said it on a video/audio feed that she thought was off. Recorded, viewed and then released by an ESPN employee to Deadspin. And then the story takes wings...
So many wrongs here.

ESPN reneges on a contract. Illegal, and subject to redress from Nichols.

Nichols whines to a group she thinks is confidential. Stupid. Nothing is confidential in that world, especially with all that equipment around, and someone is always looking for a way ahead.

The anonymous ESPN employee who recorded the nasty scene and leaked it to an amoral website. Don’t know if that’s illegal or not. I promise you it’s against an agreement the ESPN employee signed in order to be employed at TWWL. I’ll also promise you that there is an electronic trail leading to the employee who leaked. TWWL already knew who did it about a nanosecond after it happened.

Given the conduct of the other parties ranging from illegal, to stupid, to immoral, the one who comes out smelling like a rose is Maria Taylor. Consistent with her previous demeanor on other wholly unrelated topics, she stays quiet. Lets others get themselves dirty, and ends up being the class of the room.

I’ll grant you, that that’s kind of like being the raisin in a sea of rotting grapes. But by simply keeping her mouth shut while all those around can’t quit their yapping, she wins.

In today’s world, that should be a lesson for a lot of people, including me, on a lot of subjects.
 
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So many wrongs here.

ESPN reneges on a contract. Illegal, and subject to redress from Nichols.

Nichols whines to a group she thinks is confidential. Stupid. Nothing is confidential in that world, especially with all that equipment around, and someone is always looking for a way ahead.

The anonymous ESPN employee who recorded the nasty scene and leaked it to an amoral website. Don’t know if that’s illegal or not. I promise you it’s against an agreement the ESPN employee signed in order to be employed at TWWL. I’ll also promise you that there is an electronic trail leading to the employee who leaked. TWWL already knew who did it about a nanosecond after it happened.

Given the conduct of the other parties ranging from illegal, to stupid, to immoral, the one who comes out smelling like a rose is Maria Taylor. Consistent with her previous demeanor on other wholly unrelated topics, she stays quiet. Lets others get themselves dirty, and ends up being the class of the room.

I’ll grant you, that that’s kind of like being the raisin in a sea of rotting grapes. But by simply keeping her mouth shut while all those around can’t quit their yapping, she wins.

In today’s world, that should be a lesson for a lot of people, including me, on a lot of subjects.
I might have my facts wrong because i havent read the article but didn't she accidentally record it herself? And then posted it on the some internal ESPN page or something? Basically she told on herself on accident

Edit: went back and read the NYT article i guess it was kind of a combination.

Unbeknown to Nichols, her video camera was on, and the call was being recorded to a server at ESPN’s headquarters in Bristol, Conn.

It is not clear why her camera was on, but most people at ESPN believe that Nichols, using new technology during a pandemic, did not turn it off properly. It was effectively the remote pandemic version of a hot mic incident.

Dozens of ESPN employees have access to the company’s video servers as part of their normal work flow.

At least one of these people watched the video on the server, recorded it on a cellphone and shared it with others. Soon, more copies of the conversation were spreading around ESPN, and within hours it reached ESPN executives, in part because of some of the comments from Mendelsohn. He is a prominent political and communications strategist who has worked for the giant private equity firm TPG; was a communications director and deputy chief of staff for Arnold Schwarzenegger, then the governor of California; and is a co-founder of James’s voting rights group, More Than a Vote, which focused on encouraging access for Black voters during the 2020 election.
 
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Rachel Nichols is mad because ESPN took away from her the NBA Finals and gave it to Maria Taylor...even though it is in Rachel's contract.
A justifiable concern for her to be miffed.
Rachel said that Maria getting it was due to her race (African-American.)
She's probably at least partly right - but then again, Maria Taylor has also been nothing but awesome. Had they replaced Nichols with Jemele Hill, I'd tend to think that's why, but Hill has been gone awhile, and as I've said, Taylor is truly awesome at what she does.

Let me put it this way: if I was supposed to call an Alabama game and they replaced me in the announcing booth with Verne Lundquist, I wouldn't go with, "Well, they only called Verne because he's old and fat," which in my case would be ironic.

Unfortunately, she said it on a video/audio feed that she thought was off. Recorded, viewed and then released by an ESPN employee to Deadspin. And then the story takes wings...
I'm old enough to remember when taping things other people said and distributing them was proof the person doing the taping was a sleaze ball (e.g. Linda Tripp). I have no problem with it save for the fact in 90% of the cases it's someone whose own motivation is every bit as questionable. It's like when I read "Tweets resurfaced," which is hilarious. No Tweet in history has EVER "resurfaced." Ever. What happened is someone with an axe to grind went and found something somebody said years ago to prove that person is less than perfect.

I hope if asked for a comment, Taylor will remain the class she has so far and say, "No comment, it's an internal matter" or something like that.

And now back to bashing Heather Don't Know.
 

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Wow..I thought Maria Taylor was in long term intensive counseling/ therapy after enduring the Saban rant after 2018 Louisville game.
 

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So back to the Dinich comment ... did she at least provide a road to how she believes this would happen? I'm coming in on the tail end of this but even just joking, I dont even see how this could happen without a whole lot of craziness happening.
 
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