How do we get a presidential candidate who will get (almost) the entire country behind him/her?

[Bazza]

OK - I realize because of all the money,fame, egos, and power trips involved in our political system.....this is asking for WAY too much, in reality.

But don't you ever wonder what it would take for a candidate to be such a good person and one who really and truly puts the people ahead of party politics?

I just keep thinking right now the country is "ripe for the taking" - should the right person come along.

Feel free to mock me for even wondering about something like this.

Trying to stay positive is healthy for one's well-being......thus my obviously naive question....

 

[NationalTitles18]

The problem isn't the candidates. (not that they aren't a problem)

 

[92tide]

biden is an awesome person who often puts people above party politics and was a lot of folks "totally should be the democratic nominee" until he actually was.

 

[92tide]

The problem isn't the candidates. (not that they aren't a problem)

you just know there are millions of trump voters out there who wouldn't hesitate to vote for a good person if they only had the chance

 

[NationalTitles18]

biden is an awesome person who often puts people above party politics and was a lot of folks "totally should be the democratic nominee" until he actually was.

He's a good president in my eyes, but many use a demeaning phrase to refer to him. Those people only want a fascist and will be satisfied with nothing less. It will come back to haunt them, of course, but they aren't smart enough to see any of that.

 

[NationalTitles18]

you just know there are millions of trump voters out there who wouldn't hesitate to vote for a good person if they only had the chance

You can tell this is true by who they've voted for and still believe won in 2020.

 

[JDCrimson]

A younger version of Biden who doesn't have family leveraging off their time in government imo would be a positive step. But that won't happen until the Baby Boomers want to relinquish control of the country to the younger generations.

 

[81usaf92]

It’s probably impossible unless you break party affiliation. Parties have killed this country and divided us more than anything else. The fact that people still blindly buy into party loyalty shows that most rather cheer a presidential race like a football game than to have the best guy/gal in office.

The truth is that Americans vote more on what they perceive helps them individually as a whole. The idea of for the good of the public is secondary at best and doesn’t factor at all at worst.

 

[92tide]

imo, i think most of this "where is someone who everyone likes and respects" is coming from folks who are pining for the myth of reagan.

i'm not looking for a hero. i'm looking for someone who can do the job.

 

[81usaf92]

imo, i think most of this "where is someone who everyone likes and respects" is coming from folks who are pining for the myth of reagan.

It’s kinda hard to call it the Reagan myth when he won 44 and 49 states. He was widely popular to the electorate. That will never happen again. Presidential approval is a little trickier with Reagan because it really didn’t matter. But it goes back to Reagan being the guy that pushed the Soviet Union and most Americans were more worried about defeating the Soviets than just about everything else. So his policies against the Soviets were probably more important to the electorate than his economic follies.

i'm not looking for a hero. i'm looking for someone who can do the job.

Well that’s subjective. You could make an argument for just about any President for being a hero and doing the job. It’s like the “qualified” argument. What did it really mean and what are the qualifications past being an American born citizen that is Atleast 35 years old…

Saying that I would say there are some that probably do the job better than others and some that I wish I could forget were presidents in my life.

 

[92tide]

It’s kinda hard to call it the Reagan myth when he won 44 and 49 states. He was widely popular to the electorate. That will never happen again. Presidential approval is a little trickier with Reagan because it really didn’t matter. But it goes back to Reagan being the guy that pushed the Soviet Union and most Americans were more worried about defeating the Soviets than just about everything else. So his policies against the Soviets were probably more important to the electorate than his economic follies.




Well that’s subjective. You could make an argument for just about any President for being a hero and doing the job. It’s like the “qualified” argument. What did it really mean and what are the qualifications past being an American born citizen that is Atleast 35 years old…

Saying that I would say there are some that probably do the job better than others and some that I wish I could forget were presidents in my life.

he played the part well. i'll give him that.

what is not subjective is that abhorrent politics/policies are vitally important to a disturbingly large portion of the voting public. the idea that our problems as a country have anything to do with not having just the right person in the presidency to make the large majority of our country happy is silly

 

[Padreruf]

It’s probably impossible unless you break party affiliation. Parties have killed this country and divided us more than anything else. The fact that people still blindly buy into party loyalty shows that most rather cheer a presidential race like a football game than to have the best guy/gal in office.

The truth is that Americans vote more on what they perceive helps them individually as a whole. The idea of for the good of the public is secondary at best and doesn’t factor at all at worst.

You nailed it...plus, people often don't realize what really is in their best interests. Do these middle income people post 50 really want the Republicans to do away with or reduce SS? I doubt it...it's all about image and selling a narrative...

 

[Padreruf]

I really believe the ultra-division/hatred of the right and left extremes has put us in a no win situation. The parties do not believe they can win without their base/extremists -- so they cater to them. A common sense, decent person who would work to pull us all together could not get elected today.

 

[Bamaro]

The problem isn't the candidates. (not that they aren't a problem)

It's supply and demand.

 

[crimsonaudio]

imo, i think most of this "where is someone who everyone likes and respects" is coming from folks who are pining for the myth of reagan.

i'm not looking for a hero. i'm looking for someone who can do the job.

Agreed, though I'm pretty tired of (borderline) octogenarians making decisions of which they'll never have to face the consequences.

Call me ageist but we need to elect some younger people to replace some of these folks who have literally built decades-long careers (and often made millions of dollars) 'serving'.

 

[92tide]

I really believe the ultra-division/hatred of the right and left extremes has put us in a no win situation. The parties do not believe they can win without their base/extremists -- so they cater to them. A common sense, decent person who would work to pull us all together could not get elected today.

one of those extremes (it's not really extreme at this point, more mainstream) is trying to violently overthrow our government among other vicious things.

the other extreme (it's also not really extreme at this point either) is trying to get everyone healthcare and raise the minimum wage.

there is no real mid-point for someone to run to.

as i mentioned upthread, biden is a decent and seemingly common sense person. in addition, he is a compassionate, empathetic and moral person, something that is driven in--part by a long-held, deep christian faith. if those things are actually important to the electorate, he would have much higher, broad-based support. yet he is seen as the devil and absolutely despised by an extremely large majority of folks who claim to be conservative christians.

 

[92tide]

Agreed, though I'm pretty tired of (borderline) octogenarians making decisions of which they'll never have to face the consequences.

Call me ageist but we need to elect some younger people to replace some of these folks who have literally built decades-long careers (and often made millions of dollars) 'serving'.

i'm hoping buttigieg hangs around on the national stage.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Agreed, though I'm pretty tired of (borderline) octogenarians making decisions of which they'll never have to face the consequences.

Call me ageist but we need to elect some younger people to replace some of these folks who have literally built decades-long careers (and often made millions of dollars) 'serving'.

I don't care how old they are so long as they put the public interest ahead of their own and do what is right for the nation while respecting the rule of law.

Problem is that a large segment of voters do not want that any more or they do not understand what that means.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

The extremism on the left doesn’t hold a candle to the extremism on the right.

 

[92tide]

The extremism on the left doesn’t hold a candle to the extremism on the right.

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