Hulu’s deal with Disney makes it unlikely that they are changing anytime soon. But from what is being reported this is more YouTube’s issue than Disneys.
How to Stream Bama Games (no cable or satellite)
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This is the hard lesson to learn about any kind of streaming or digital service. It is convenient, yes. But if you don’t have a hard copy recorded of a game or music or a movie or whatever, you don’t really own it, and the streaming service can disappear it overnight, just like that.
Doubtful IMO. Disney likely wants more money for ESPN (which is already the most expensive cable channel), and YouTube said no. YTTV is already too expensive as it is.
So there goes tonight's B-ball game
... and all my recorded games up to now, I guess?
YepSo there goes tonight's B-ball game
... and all my recorded games up to now, I guess?
YouTube has lowballed about every sports league and company these last two years and lost. I think there is a trend going here
I will say that when Hulu lost Bally Sports, they made it up to the customers by adding NFL Network. They at least tried.
Hulu has been far more committed to sports and major channels. They were the last streaming service out of the Bally situation. Bally is just ran by an organization that wants streaming to suffer.
With all the different streaming services it seems that streaming is going the way of cable and satellite, except now everyone will have 5 payments to make instead of one. It won't be the exact same, but they'll get their money somehow.
its all the same. But it’s probably more important to ask yourself “what channels can I not live without” and “what channels I would like to have”. I think look at what services have hard deals with some of the companies that own the stuff you can’t live without and go in that direction to build your lineup. Hulu has hard deals with Disney so their ESPN lineup is never really going to be in doubt for the near future.
Personally I got tired of the constant lowballing from streaming services and having to constantly rebuild a lineup so I went back to DIRECTV.
That's why I never left DirecTV. Well, that and unreliable internet speed. I'm just not going to chance missing what I want to see.
I mean I’m suffering with the weather right now, but I never have to really worry about waking up and find out that my sports channels or channels that are in my package are gone.
Hulu was great for me but I made the switch because DIRECTV offered Bally and better internet than what I had (comcast). Yeah I pay more but after going through the streaming service hokey pokey I was willing to pay for security.
Yes but YouTube was also the 1st out of the Bally negotiations, and got into an extended negotiation period with NBC sports (ND football , SNF, Olympics, and Super Bowl are on this). The problem seems YouTube doesn’t have a lot of negotiation power. Google without YouTube TV is perfectly fine. YouTube TV without Disney is dead.
I mean heck, YouTube Red lost alot of subscriptions after they got rid of Cobra Kai. Google is really not willing to play ball with anything YouTube other than YouTube itself.
OK, kinda funny situation, kinda not.
As I type this, I’m at an old college friend’s house helping prep for a Christmas party. A small part of the evening would be having the basketball game on in the background.
You guessed it, he has YTTV as his primary source of TV. He’s also a wound a bit tight anyway, and a bit more so today, stressing about the party, weather, etc.
I had his wife check the TV to verify, and no nothing Disney related, including ESPN.
Thing is, nobody wants to tell him, because of the anticipated stressed reaction. It’ll have exactly no impact on anything, but could lead to some entertaining fireworks.
Keep you posted.
As I type this, I’m at an old college friend’s house helping prep for a Christmas party. A small part of the evening would be having the basketball game on in the background.
You guessed it, he has YTTV as his primary source of TV. He’s also a wound a bit tight anyway, and a bit more so today, stressing about the party, weather, etc.
I had his wife check the TV to verify, and no nothing Disney related, including ESPN.
Thing is, nobody wants to tell him, because of the anticipated stressed reaction. It’ll have exactly no impact on anything, but could lead to some entertaining fireworks.
Keep you posted.
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Disney has been screwing football fans since the 'Heidi' game.
I feel his pain. I'll likely have to find another service.
(I'm also wound more than a little tight)
It really depends on what you want. Do you want to play the cost effective game or do you want to play the "i dont have to worry about my ESPN" game. Cost effective Fubo and Sling seems the best way to go, but the latter is a bit more complex.
Do you strictly want to stay cordless or are you open to cable? Because cordless Hulu is going to win the best of both worlds argument because they were the only ones smart enough to make bundles with Disney to begin with. Disney and Hulu are going to be in business together as long as Hulu continues to promote Disney + packages. But that relationship can change, and thats the true advantage of going with the big cable companies.
But this whole thing goes back to the inevitability of streaming services. Eventually they were going to pay based on the number of their subscribers. We saw this with Netflix and Disney and now we see it now. The real tipoff should have been earlier in the year when millions of baseball fans couldnt watch baseball because of them being streamers. Ask @DzynKingRTR how many Braves games he got to see this year compared to last year. Sinclair forced these streaming services to pay like the big boys or not carry baseball, and all of them bowed out. So it should be to no surprise Disney seeing a 4 million for YouTube live tv and saying "you are a big boy now so pay up". This was always coming, but its dumb that YouTube waited this long to try to resolve it. But you are also talking about the same streaming service trying to get a NBC deal done in October. The only difference there was NBC allowed an extension.
The point is... Streaming services are really the same thing as the old cable services that everyone hates. They just try to sell you on "Well you get all you want and none of what you dont". But in the end most people are still paying relatively the same but with less assurances on sports networks. You just have to research it and decide which flavor suits you best. I really hope everyone finds their solution before the 31st.
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The answer to the Braves question is:
in 2020 I got to see every game plus playoffs and in 2021 maybe 20 and that does not include playoffs. and if I am being honest I think 20 is being overly generous.
When streaming first started it was awesome. It was cheaper than cable plus no contract. Now it cost just as much as cable (some cases it is more) and the only thing they got going for them is no contract. Now every damn channel has its streaming add-on which drove up prices even more.
I would use cable myself, however where I currently live is considered “rural” and the only cable option is centurylink with a download speed of a whopping 3mbs. But it is only internet and not TV. The infuriating thing is that they ran fiber optic to the new section of the neighborhood across the road. So close yet so far. Anyways that is right out for any kind of useful internet, and my only other 2 internet options are satellite internet from Hughes Net, which is simultaneously exorbitant and a useless amount of fixed data, and using a cellular WiFi hotspot which gives me decent upload/download speeds to where I can at least stream. The only TV option is Dish.
So I went with a wifi hotspot which costs just as much as a mid range cable tv/internet bundle and forgo paying an additional contract for Dish. But then because it is a internet hotspot, Hulu refuses to recognize my internet as a home network so if I use Hulu I can only use it on my laptop or phone (can’t even run it through to the TV for some reason- I’ve tried!). And so for sports, the only way I can watch Bama games at home on my TV is either with YouTube TV, or using both the ESPN and CBS apps off my Xbox, which requires me to bum off the username and password of a friend with an actual cable account. So thanks for screwing me over Disney! Luckily for the holidays I am visiting my family and they have Hulu so I can watch all the rest of this season’s games. But if this doesn’t get resolved by next season, guess I will have to wait for an upload to YouTube a few days after the game.
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