this might end up being his first true down year and still a tournament sweet 16 type team. Says how good CNO is. I’m afraid his scheme is becoming more of a gimmick now though that teams are figuring out vs just a miss on players. Time will tell. But coach is super competitive and I think he will look in the mirror and try adjusting but not sure he can in season. Hopefully he gets money to get some players he wants, we don’t have the money like 10-15 programs do though.
If You Could Pursuade CNO to do One Thing Differently...
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During the game I posted a graphic ABC showed on the prodcast yesterday which said that 52% of our shots are from 3, yet no team has ever won a NC that shot more than 50% of their shots from 3.
Stats/records get broken all the time, but that's a significant roadblock because we are talking about NC asperations and history is history.
Could CNO be the 1st to do it by taking more than 50% from 3? I'd say yes, but it's going to take a different type of roster to accomplish that.
It'll be interesting how we respond. We've got TAMU and the Barn this week. We lose those 2 and he may lose this team. We've got 10 SEC games left and the way we are currently playing we'll probably go 5-5.
I still think we are plenty good to make the field, with our OOC reschedule, but the SEC hasn't gone as we thought it would. CBS has us a 6 seed, but unless we play better down the stretch we are probably looking at being a 8-10 seed.
In the past coaches could apply pressure to play or get cut. Now they can just go to the portal.
I believe the amount of injuries and guys possibly sitting out electively has hurt us greatly this season. It's hard to get into any type of regular rotation and player groupings when so many have missed time. Yesterday, for example, there was a stretch where Williamson, Sherrill, and Mallette were in the game at the same time. Offensively, that simply can't happen against a team like UF... but it's probably a direct result of guys being out. Like CC says, it may be a contractual thing, but IMO if we're paying guys to play they should be expected to play when they've got normal bumps and bruises. At this point in the season, no one is 100% and we need all hands on deck to right the ship.
In response to the thread being revived after yesterday's game, we're at a crossroads in our program. Nate Oats is by far the best coach we've had in my lifetime as a fan... and I believe he's a top 10 coach in America. We've enjoyed unprecedented success in his tenure and I'd hate to return to a time when we defined "success" in our program as just making the NCAA tourney.
With that said, Oats is IMO where Nick Saban was in the mid-2010's. Teams had learned how to defeat a Saban-coached team - get the defensive 1's tired by running up-tempo offense and make games a track meet. Now granted, teams had to have the personnel to execute that plan and most teams simply couldn't do it. Saban adjusted by putting slimmer, less bulky guys on the field and started playing more DB's. Case in point... no more Rolando McClain's and more C.J. Mosley's at LB. He also adapted to an offense that could run up-tempo too. In the end, the adjustments worked and he continued to have a lot of success.
Opponents now know the recipe to defeat us... it's been on display several times this year. We get beat by teams that are long and strong defensively... teams that not only can cover our perimeter and force us inside to their bigs, but teams that have strong inside players offensively who can simply bully us around. Just like with Saban years ago, most teams can't do this to us because they lack personnel. BUT... what we're starting to see is that it's not just the Florida's and Tennessee's who can do it, less talented teams like Texas can also. Our team identity requires guys that are shooters and quick... and that means we lack the strength to go toe to toe with these teams. IF our shooting is on and we make our free throws, we might have a chance at them as long as we don't let them go on 10-12 point runs. Otherwise, the game is effectively over before the opening tip.
Does Oats have a willingness to make changes... does he have the NIL $$$ to do so... does he have a S&C coach that can do to our rosters what UF's have done with theirs? If answers to these types of questions are "no", then we're going to see a steady decline in success. There may be a team every once in a while that reverses that trend for a year, but overall we'll have less and less success as a program. It's been nice to dream of a BB natty the past few years... and I certainly hope Oats and everyone involved in the program can make the changes needed. Either way, I love UA BB and will support it going forward.
I think it also needs to be said that expecting these kind of changes during this season is unrealistic and I think it's also asinine to be calling for Nate Oat's head at this point or any point in the next few years (and maybe ever). Sometimes, to get to where you need to go, you have to experience some hardships that help focus your attention and revitalize your hunger for success. RTR
With that said, Oats is IMO where Nick Saban was in the mid-2010's. Teams had learned how to defeat a Saban-coached team - get the defensive 1's tired by running up-tempo offense and make games a track meet. Now granted, teams had to have the personnel to execute that plan and most teams simply couldn't do it. Saban adjusted by putting slimmer, less bulky guys on the field and started playing more DB's. Case in point... no more Rolando McClain's and more C.J. Mosley's at LB. He also adapted to an offense that could run up-tempo too. In the end, the adjustments worked and he continued to have a lot of success.
Opponents now know the recipe to defeat us... it's been on display several times this year. We get beat by teams that are long and strong defensively... teams that not only can cover our perimeter and force us inside to their bigs, but teams that have strong inside players offensively who can simply bully us around. Just like with Saban years ago, most teams can't do this to us because they lack personnel. BUT... what we're starting to see is that it's not just the Florida's and Tennessee's who can do it, less talented teams like Texas can also. Our team identity requires guys that are shooters and quick... and that means we lack the strength to go toe to toe with these teams. IF our shooting is on and we make our free throws, we might have a chance at them as long as we don't let them go on 10-12 point runs. Otherwise, the game is effectively over before the opening tip.
Does Oats have a willingness to make changes... does he have the NIL $$$ to do so... does he have a S&C coach that can do to our rosters what UF's have done with theirs? If answers to these types of questions are "no", then we're going to see a steady decline in success. There may be a team every once in a while that reverses that trend for a year, but overall we'll have less and less success as a program. It's been nice to dream of a BB natty the past few years... and I certainly hope Oats and everyone involved in the program can make the changes needed. Either way, I love UA BB and will support it going forward.
I think it also needs to be said that expecting these kind of changes during this season is unrealistic and I think it's also asinine to be calling for Nate Oat's head at this point or any point in the next few years (and maybe ever). Sometimes, to get to where you need to go, you have to experience some hardships that help focus your attention and revitalize your hunger for success. RTR
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I hope CNO makes some adjustments. But like someone said, he's pretty stubborn in his ways. Just like with the timeout thing. He says, "what am I going to tell them? Play harder? They should be playing hard anyways." No, coach. You also call timeouts to take the other team out of their rhythm and to possibly make changes. You'll see teams come out of a timeout and switch defenses or try something else to shift momentum. But that's the thing. CNO is married to his system so much that he doesn't, or very rarely ever, make changes like that during a game. Like someone else said, he's not a great in-game coach and needs to improve in that area.
I hope this season is a wake up call for CNO. I will never want a different coach as long as CNO wants to be here BUT he could make some adjustments.
We cannot keep playing with these soft bigs of ours. Sherrell is a skilled player but he is one of the most unathletic, almost lazy bigs I have watched play for Bama. Chuck may lack size and won't hit the broad side of a barn if he shoots a three but at least he can get after it on defense. Even Cliff last year, we were told he would bring that physicality... nope. Soft again.
We need to find us 1 or 2 Chinleyu's from Florida that are strong, athletic, grab rebounds and block shots. Sprinkle them in with Sherrell and Williamson. I know money is a big factor here but we can find some guys who are big and put in max effort on D.
When we had Clowney, Gurley, Miller, Pringle, and Bediako on the same roster we had a GREAT defense. It can be done again.
That's my uninformed opinion, anyways.
We cannot keep playing with these soft bigs of ours. Sherrell is a skilled player but he is one of the most unathletic, almost lazy bigs I have watched play for Bama. Chuck may lack size and won't hit the broad side of a barn if he shoots a three but at least he can get after it on defense. Even Cliff last year, we were told he would bring that physicality... nope. Soft again.
We need to find us 1 or 2 Chinleyu's from Florida that are strong, athletic, grab rebounds and block shots. Sprinkle them in with Sherrell and Williamson. I know money is a big factor here but we can find some guys who are big and put in max effort on D.
When we had Clowney, Gurley, Miller, Pringle, and Bediako on the same roster we had a GREAT defense. It can be done again.
That's my uninformed opinion, anyways.
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Specifically to what you mention about changes in TO's, it allows you to break up a bad personnel grouping and to implement a good offensive play that can break another team's run. We generally come out of timeouts with good offensive plays - would be interested to see a metric that measures that game situation.
Interesting thing about Cliff and Sherrill from last year. In late July I got to watch about a week's worth of practice. One of the most noticeable things was the aggressiveness of both of those guys. In fact, I was so impressed with Sherrill that I told a friend that had we not gotten Cliff we'd have been ok by the middle of the SEC schedule with Sherrill starting at the 5. But like you say, we didn't see that level of physically throughout the season.
I think Diabatae from KY was on that same team too, wasn't he? We miss his presence too!
Sherrell frustrates me. They are listing him at 7', but even if he's only 6'10 or so, he ought to be bringing the lumber inside! Instead, he tries acrobatic layups when he goes to the rim. He needs to be dunking and tearing down the rim!!!
It's interesting you say that about Sherrell, I have heard this season that he is noticeably lazy in practice. Probably just speaks to the inconsistency of it all and its hard to say what is going on. Hope something changes, we really need a better effort on D.
It took me a minute to realize my mistakeAs long as you've got a uniform, your opinion counts!
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It may have been the competition from Cliff that brought out his aggressiveness. One of the things I've hoped the Bediako situation would lead to is mentoring of our bigs. Wonder if that contributed to Bol Bowen having double digit rebounds against Missouri.It's interesting you say that about Sherrell, I have heard this season that he is noticeably lazy in practice. Probably just speaks to the inconsistency of it all and its hard to say what is goi. Hope something changes, we really need a better effort on D.
It took me a minute to realize my mistake
Biggest attribute for frontline players should not be how well they shoot the 3. Tough frontlines kill us consistently every year.
Stubbornness can be an asset until it's not
Stubbornness can be an asset until it's not
That is Sherrell in a nutshell. He looks like a physical monster, but that's not how he plays!
Not sure if this is the case with him. But if he had a late growth spurt and started playing ball as a small forward the grew into this body, he may still just be getting comfortable playing big.
Edit: 6’ 10” as a freshman in HS. So much for that idea
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