In The New Playoff System: What will Happen First?

What will Happen First?

  • Two teams from the SEC make it in.

    Votes: 20 55.6%
  • Zero teams from the SEC make it in.

    Votes: 14 38.9%
  • Two teams from another conference make it in.

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • Total voters
    36
Most years I'd pick two teams from the SEC to make it.
This year, I'm not saying it won't happen, but it "remains to be seen".
There's a ton of mystery this year all through the conference. A lot of uncertainty.
Normally you absolutely know which teams are going to contend. I'm not sure you can this year.
Right now, if I had to choose I say "One", if that many.
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The very first thing that will happen is that the best 4 teams will not be selected, that is going to happen. From your given scenario, I'll say that 2 SEC will get selected and the rest of the nation will immediately call for ditching this system and just get an edict flat out prohibiting it from ever happening again.
 
I voted based on what I think will happen in view of the other two possibilities.

2 teams from the SEC will get in before a year when none do or before 2 teams from another conference does.

This year, however, I'd speculate that somehow they'll be four teams from four major conferences making up the first playoff.
 
I voted that 2 teams would make it in. Think about last year..where we lost at the last second. I could see us and Auburn getting in.
 
I voted no teams from the SEC happens first.

That does NOT mean I think that will happen before two SEC teams deserve to be in. I just think there is no way that committee will choose two SEC teams for a long time.

At some point, you're going to have a 2-loss SEC champ, and the braying will drown out all reason.

So I think a 2-loss SEC champ happens before the committee admits what we all know, and puts in a non-champion SEC team in the Final Four.

It's not fair, or right, or the way they drew it up in fifth grade Sunday school. I think it's the way it is.
 
I voted no teams from the SEC happens first.

That does NOT mean I think that will happen before two SEC teams deserve to be in. I just think there is no way that committee will choose two SEC teams for a long time.

At some point, you're going to have a 2-loss SEC champ, and the braying will drown out all reason.

So I think a 2-loss SEC champ happens before the committee admits what we all know, and puts in a non-champion SEC team in the Final Four.

It's not fair, or right, or the way they drew it up in fifth grade Sunday school. I think it's the way it is.


exactly my thinking. the conference is so tough, someone will lose 2 games even against highly ranked teams and someone else will get in
 
I am going with no teams from the sec. With the dislike most of this country has with our conference right now (except here in the south) I think it is highly unlikely they put two teams in,deserving aside.A two loss Notre Dame or Southern Cal or some other media darling will more than likely go in over a 1 loss sec team in my opinion especially if one conference team is already in.
 
I voted that 2 SEC teams would make it into the playoff first. It is possible though, after the considerations released today, the new system won't last long enough for any of your options to happen.
 
I think these guys are pretty intent on preventing a non-conference champion from making the playoffs, unless they simply can't make an argument for someone else as a replacement. It'll be 10 or more years before they include two teams from the same conference in the top 4.
 
I think there will be HUGE pressure this year not to have two SEC teams in. I think you will have to have a year like 2011 for two to qualify. (ie #1 and #2 or 3)
 
Third answer will never happen because that would set a precedent that would prevent them from not ever allowing the first answer to happen. The first answer will never happen because they would then be out of a job.

Here is a not too far fetched scenario that would cause the second answer to happen this year, and could very well show why the first and third answers will never happen. Top 5 CFP standings (not to be confused with Top 5 rankings):

1. F$U 13-0 ACC champion

2. Oklahoma 12-0 Big 12 champion

3. Michigan State 12-1 B1G champion (lost only at Oregon)

4. UCLA 12-1 Pac 12 champion (lost to Oregon regular season, beat Oregon in CG)

5. UF 10-3 SEC champion (lost to Bama regular season, lost to #1 F$U, beat Bama in CG)

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Answer #2. There is no way UF gets in by any means. They would, at best, be seeded 4th and that would put them in a rematch with #1 seeded F$U. That ain't happening!

There is a better chance of Oregon 12-1 Pac 12 non champion replacing Michigan State 12-1 B1g champion. But that ain't happening either because of the precedent setting, plus MSU is on an 11 game winning streak since losing at Oregon and Oregon is on a one game losing streak having just lost to UCLA.
 
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Third answer will never happen because that would set a precedent that would prevent them from not ever allowing the first answer to happen. The first answer will never happen because they would then be out of a job.

Here is a not too far fetched scenario that would cause the second answer to happen this year, and could very well show why the first and third answers will never happen. Top 5 CFP standings (not to be confused with Top 5 rankings):

1. F$U 13-0 ACC champion

2. Oklahoma 12-0 Big 12 champion

3. Michigan State 12-1 B1G champion (lost only at Oregon)

4. UCLA 12-1 Pac 12 champion (lost to Oregon regular season, beat Oregon in CG)

5. UF 10-3 SEC champion (lost to Bama regular season, lost to #1 F$U, beat Bama in CG)

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Answer #2. There is no way UF gets in by any means. They would be, at best, be seeded 4th and that would put them in a rematch with #1 seeded F$U. That ain't happening!

There is a better chance of Oregon 12-1 Pac 12 non champion replacing Michigan State 12-1 B1g champion. But that ain't happening either because of the precedent setting, plus MSU is on an 11 game winning streak since losing at Oregon and Oregon is on a one game losing streak having just lost to UCLA.

Unfortunately, this right here is why this discussion is pointless. You just said Oregon is 12-1. Do you SERIOUSLY think a 10-3 Florida would be ranked higher than a 12-1 Oregon?

Who was Florida's third loss? And what was Alabama's record even though they beat Florida? Was Florida the first or second loss and if so who was the other loss?

And if Alabama has only ONE LOSS, how is a three-loss team ahead of them AND ahead of one-loss Oregon?

Your scenario is fictional and could never happen as described above. I didn't say hypothetical, I said fictional - it literally cannot happen (unless you want to give us the rest of the data).
 
Unfortunately, this right here is why this discussion is pointless. You just said Oregon is 12-1. Do you SERIOUSLY think a 10-3 Florida would be ranked higher than a 12-1 Oregon?

Who was Florida's third loss? And what was Alabama's record even though they beat Florida? Was Florida the first or second loss and if so who was the other loss?

And if Alabama has only ONE LOSS, how is a three-loss team ahead of them AND ahead of one-loss Oregon?

Your scenario is fictional and could never happen as described above. I didn't say hypothetical, I said fictional - it literally cannot happen (unless you want to give us the rest of the data).

I thought you remembered everything you read. If so what part of "Top 5 CFP standings (not to be confused with Top 5 rankings):" do you not understand?


 
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Take UF completely out of the standings above. Doesn't matter because they are not getting in and it still makes answer #2 the winner. Put Bama and Oregon anywhere you like in the rankings. Doesn't matter because they are not getting in either.
 
Unfortunately, this right here is why this discussion is pointless. You just said Oregon is 12-1. Do you SERIOUSLY think a 10-3 Florida would be ranked higher than a 12-1 Oregon?

Who was Florida's third loss? And what was Alabama's record even though they beat Florida? Was Florida the first or second loss and if so who was the other loss?

And if Alabama has only ONE LOSS, how is a three-loss team ahead of them AND ahead of one-loss Oregon?

Your scenario is fictional and could never happen as described above. I didn't say hypothetical, I said fictional - it literally cannot happen (unless you want to give us the rest of the data).

Bill, it comes as no surprise that you took issue with my post. I expect that from you with everything I do post. I know this belongs in a PM, but I tried that once with you and never got an answer.

I too have a Selma background. Lovely little city that was in the wrong place at the wrong time, or the right place at the wrong time, or the wrong place at the right time, or the right place at the right time, whatever, in Alabama history. I lived there for 6 years during my Jr High and HS years long before that time. I graduated from what was then A.G. Parrish HS, and I believe your dad and I were classmates. Which is what my PM to you concerned. Must have been something in it that offended you because you never replied.

All of that was so long ago it makes me a broken clock. But as we all know even it is correct twice a day. I don't ever seem to be correct in your eyes.
 
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